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I will never intentionally buy another chasis that doesn't fold.
Just for cleaning it. Being able to get that cheek riser out of your way without removing or adjusting it is the only way to fly.
Just for cleaning it. Being able to get that cheek riser out of your way without removing or adjusting it is the only way to fly.
Folder always. Cleaning convenience and smaller storage, smaller cases etc.
Folding ... definitely. Makes bore-cleaning much easier.
Folding
Cleaning/boresighting/checking OAL with hornady comparator
Cleaning/boresighting/checking OAL with hornady comparator
Folding makes sense for cleaning purposes.
Unfortunately my chassis' of preference is not available as a folder, so all my stuff is fixed.
Unfortunately my chassis' of preference is not available as a folder, so all my stuff is fixed.
Folder all the way and folding to the right 
. One advantage that hasn't been mentioned yet is small cases! Able to use most AR soft and hard cases even with 26 barrels.
. One advantage that hasn't been mentioned yet is small cases! Able to use most AR soft and hard cases even with 26 barrels.
A lot depends on the rifle and how easy it is to remove the bolt.
On the old AI rifles before everything was folding, having to take off the cheek piece to pull the bolt out was a pain, so the folder fixed that.
It can also mean fitting across the back seat of a compact car in it's case vs not fitting.
Some stupid countries don't allow it for some stupid reason.
The big issue however is often the price of the folder vs the fixed for other kinds of stocks.
On the old AI rifles before everything was folding, having to take off the cheek piece to pull the bolt out was a pain, so the folder fixed that.
It can also mean fitting across the back seat of a compact car in it's case vs not fitting.
Some stupid countries don't allow it for some stupid reason.
The big issue however is often the price of the folder vs the fixed for other kinds of stocks.
A high-quality solid-locking folder is just as good as a fixed chassis, but has every benefit (as mentioned above) being that it folds.
I prefer a good folder for compact storage and carrying, and all the other reasons mentioned above.
I prefer a good folder for compact storage and carrying, and all the other reasons mentioned above.
My barrels with the suppressors, tend to be on the long side. Because they are muzzle heavy, I have to sling them barrel down when moving to different positions or on a long walk.
I'm not tall enough to keep the suppressor from dragging the ground when slung barrel down.
So a folding buttstock is not an option. With shorter barrels, I don't have a problem with fixed buttstocks.
I'm not tall enough to keep the suppressor from dragging the ground when slung barrel down.
So a folding buttstock is not an option. With shorter barrels, I don't have a problem with fixed buttstocks.
I think you are being overly emotional and hugely biased by your own possible misunderstanding of why some folks like the utility of a folding stock.
You do realize that on a bolt action rifle, you usually only fold the stock for cleaning or transport and would of course have locked back into standard position before going out on your wonderful hunt?
Opposite to you I guess, I can say for a fact, I enjoyed having my AW and AWSM being able to fold the stocks as it made cleaning a bit faster and easier.
Sure, I could have lived with them being fixed, but the utility of the folding stock was useful to me and there is no difference in the rigidity or strength of the stock.
On MSR rifles, which I'm guessing you would even more despise, having a folding stock on something like an MCX lets you not worry about all this SBR and pistol brace stuff because your folded stock makes the whole rifle not much longer than most folks' MSR based SBRs. Which lets you easily carry it in a vehicle easier, in a place where it's within arm's reach, shoot it folded if you need to, or just flick the stock open when you have room.
Or pack it down into a small carry bag that takes little room and is discrete.
Is it totally necessary? No, but it's useful.
Fixed for now, but there's most likely a folder or two in the near future.
That is correct. However, I cannot attach the sling at the rear of the receiver. Even if I could that still might not give me much clearance.
Here's a photo of one of my rifles with the fixed KRG W-3 before I switched to a folding buttstock on another W-3. The barrel is 26" in length.
Folding all the way. Fits in a smaller case and makes bore sighting or cleaning easier. With a quality folder the only downside is usually just a bit more $.
I think the only way I'd own a fixed stock would be if I ever had a traditional stock. I'd never consider a chassis without a folder.
I think the only way I'd own a fixed stock would be if I ever had a traditional stock. I'd never consider a chassis without a folder.
If there is no need for the chassis/stock to fold then why spend the extra money for that feature? If there is a need for a folding feature then the money is well spent in my book.
Taking KRG as an example, spending extra for the capability makes no sense to me just to gain easier cleaning. My fixed stock rifles use KMW Loggerhead hardware so removing the cheek piece isn’t a big deal, it’ll always return to the same spot. Rifles are stored in the unfolded configuration, and physically take up less width space when unfolded. I have long enough cases to transport them unfolded, though with 26” barrels it's starting to push what comfortably fits in the trunk. L
The one folder I do have I am not impressed with, but I didn’t pay the egregious upgrade price for that capability. Overall what it brings to the table is nice I guess just not for the price the manufacturer demands.
The one folder I do have I am not impressed with, but I didn’t pay the egregious upgrade price for that capability. Overall what it brings to the table is nice I guess just not for the price the manufacturer demands.
“In my very narrow scope of experience never using this piece of equipment, I’ve never had to use this piece of equipment, and you shouldn’t either!”
“When dynamically entering a structure to asymmetrically clear and hold advantageous positions for follow on actions, do you prefer the lug pattern and traction profile of Salomon or Merrell footwear?”
Fixed.. less hardware means less to break and/or go wrong. 
I run fixed on everything. I would be so sad if the folder ever became sloppy is my main reason for not trying one.
I choose ASolo because red = faster according my sources that do science.
OP, here is a list of things that are made easier with a folding stock.
-driving with a rifle in your truck.
-finding a case for a rifle you plan to keep in a case with suppressor installed
-carrying a rifle on the front of your body with a sling
-carrying a rifle on the rear of your body with a sling
-putting a rifle in a pack scabbard
-Cleaning a rifle
-Boresighting a rifle
The only limiting factor to a folder is the design of the hinge itself, and if it’s not a jankety-ass design (looking at you hnt26) it will only be a positive addition.
Agree and add Magpul Pro to the solid/good list.
If I planned to fly with the gun much, to matches, etc. then I'd go folder.
I have a Pelican 1720 (~42" case, AR/PCC, would fit a folder) and a V800 (~53" case, fits a fixed) and there's no doubt which one would be a hell of a lot easier to drag around an airport and/or while looking for a rental car.
I have a Pelican 1720 (~42" case, AR/PCC, would fit a folder) and a V800 (~53" case, fits a fixed) and there's no doubt which one would be a hell of a lot easier to drag around an airport and/or while looking for a rental car.
Are you referring to the Magpul Pro FOLDER as solid, or just the fixed? thnx
The folder. I ran them for several years and finally replace them with ATX AICS. The Magpul Pro is very under rated chassis. The only con I had was the high bore axis for prs style shooting.
What an oddly passive aggressive post justifying to yourself your dislike of folding stocks.
Folding is what I would pick, IF I had a rifle with a chassis.
For all of the reasons already mentioned.
Plus, when in unusual shooting positions (like on slopes or having to shoot up, especially when you are facing down), where the buttstock impedes you , you can fold it, and shoot it while running your field bag or hand underneath the pistol grip.
Depending on the chambering/weight/recoil etc., you could be 90 degrees from your rifle and still make accurate shots.
I recently added the folding mechanism to my ATX, it serves no other purpose to aid in cleaning, not Having to remove anything or adjust makes it worth it to me.
There's no down side to a folder. The good ones lock up very very well so if you see any benefit to a folder then that's that. I have a few and just cleaning it's worth it to me because I got really tired of taking my cheek piece off to do it. It also helps a lot in certain situations and makes it a lot easier in my safe without having to remove my cans.
Who make the chassis in the first picture?
It was a Cadex CPS that I swapped the takedown section for a folder off another chassis.
You are a clown. That’s definitely what I was aiming for with my post, had nothing to do with posting some pics in a near pic-free thread.
Anyone with a username like yours would 100% let other men fuck their wife in front of them. I hope they also kick your dog on the walk out.
You would likely be shocked to know how many agencies either don't supply a precision weapon or at least a good precision weapon in which case the slotted officer buys his own. Since you likely lack initiative and commitment, you would probably not find yourself passing the necessary screens and training to be any kind of LE/MIL sniper so you would just do without.
and yet here you are LARPing as something you are not.
You mean complicated as in what you do to a web forum?
How many pics do you need me to post of guys with precision bolt guns being transported in or setup in Mil vehicles, SUVs and commercial trucks/vans to convince you this is SOP stuff in many instances?
Any hunter that plans on not starving to death would have the rifle stock deployed into usable configuration well before any likelihood of seeing game.
But we wish you would jump with a spare shoot in addition to your main shoot so that you would have a shoot to prevent an untimely mishap.
We are in agreement that even after another 50 years on this earth and 89 years of shooting, you will still not have uttered the words "if only I had a folding stock life would be so much easier!" and you would show up in our future holographic Bolt Action Rifles forum to mansplain it to us heathens.
After careful analysis and consideration, we are pretty sure if you were trying to do any of the above in a combat area, we would all be inconvenienced by having to walk around your battle field cross of neatly stacked helmet, gun and boots just to get our damned chow after your first day of deployment.
75%? Really? You think only 75% of this forum hates your opinion?
And yet I bet your asbestos underwear folds but here you are dissing stocks that fold....
200yrs...... um..... yeah.... Folding stocks were as rare as optics, smokeless powder and modern antibiotics.
You could have simply posted this single sentence and accomplished the same...
I think he has moved his negative rating up past 75%. I would guess it’s over 90% now. Keep up the good work.
we went fixed cause I love unwieldy guns and think of folding as just something else to break .
