Does anyone know why the ATF is running so slow? (Besides the obvious ) I sent in a form 4 back in june I called the other day and they said another 5deal months.
Suppressors form 4
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Re: form 4
Gov hiring freeze, 3 more states this year you can use suppressors are probably the 2 biggest.
Gov hiring freeze, 3 more states this year you can use suppressors are probably the 2 biggest.
Re: form 4
Are you fucking kidding me? I'm one my way to purchase another can right now! I bought one in May and had my approval in August, was hoping for the same.
Are you fucking kidding me? I'm one my way to purchase another can right now! I bought one in May and had my approval in August, was hoping for the same.
Re: form 4
Sent one off last week, guess I will just forget about it, and one day I will get a call and my stamp will be in.
Maybe it will get here before 2013 if I am lucky.
Sent one off last week, guess I will just forget about it, and one day I will get a call and my stamp will be in.
Maybe it will get here before 2013 if I am lucky.
Re: form 4
Jerbe: I think you might have misunderstood whoever you spoke with. The total wait is about 5 months right now. Check out the "wait time" thread or go to nfa tracker.com.
Jerbe: I think you might have misunderstood whoever you spoke with. The total wait is about 5 months right now. Check out the "wait time" thread or go to nfa tracker.com.
Re: form 4
Ya, I've been waiting on one from last April. Have forgotten about it a few times in an effort to be patient......till my coyote calling buddy hounds me about it for this winter to take it calling. FML...... O well.
XM110
Ya, I've been waiting on one from last April. Have forgotten about it a few times in an effort to be patient......till my coyote calling buddy hounds me about it for this winter to take it calling. FML...... O well.
XM110
Re: form 4
I find it hilarious that you can become an FFL holder, pay the SOT, submit form 3s,and have 20 cans, 10 SBR and SBS, and a few FA before someone who submits a form 4 has one can.
I find it hilarious that you can become an FFL holder, pay the SOT, submit form 3s,and have 20 cans, 10 SBR and SBS, and a few FA before someone who submits a form 4 has one can.
Re: form 4
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markspring1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jerbe: I think you might have misunderstood whoever you spoke with. The total wait is about 5 months right now. Check out the "wait time" thread or go to nfa tracker.com. </div></div>
NO I clarified several times she said 5 month from 9/7/2011 when it went to a pending status. I am hoping it was a general answer.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markspring1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jerbe: I think you might have misunderstood whoever you spoke with. The total wait is about 5 months right now. Check out the "wait time" thread or go to nfa tracker.com. </div></div>
NO I clarified several times she said 5 month from 9/7/2011 when it went to a pending status. I am hoping it was a general answer.
Re: form 4
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jerbe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markspring1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jerbe: I think you might have misunderstood whoever you spoke with. The total wait is about 5 months right now. Check out the "wait time" thread or go to nfa tracker.com. </div></div>
NO I clarified several times she said 5 month from 9/7/2011 when it went to a pending status. I am hoping it was a general answer. </div></div>
what ever happened with the letter to the congressman? i wonder if anything ever happened with that.
my 2 form 3's should be done in the next week or so, so then its form 4 wait time. i bought them in october to be ready by next june and thats cutting it close!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jerbe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markspring1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jerbe: I think you might have misunderstood whoever you spoke with. The total wait is about 5 months right now. Check out the "wait time" thread or go to nfa tracker.com. </div></div>
NO I clarified several times she said 5 month from 9/7/2011 when it went to a pending status. I am hoping it was a general answer. </div></div>
what ever happened with the letter to the congressman? i wonder if anything ever happened with that.
my 2 form 3's should be done in the next week or so, so then its form 4 wait time. i bought them in october to be ready by next june and thats cutting it close!!!
Re: form 4
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: force_multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I find it hilarious that you can become an FFL holder, pay the SOT, submit form 3s,and have 20 cans, 10 SBR and SBS, and a few FA before someone who submits a form 4 has one can.</div></div>
Lol, my FFL paperwork alone took a year. The SOT, however, is just a tax payment so it doesn't take any time at all. My form 3s are currently taking more than 4 weeks (4.5 on current one in progress with no word yet). Of course... all of this assumes you meet all of the requirements for an FFL.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: force_multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I find it hilarious that you can become an FFL holder, pay the SOT, submit form 3s,and have 20 cans, 10 SBR and SBS, and a few FA before someone who submits a form 4 has one can.</div></div>
Lol, my FFL paperwork alone took a year. The SOT, however, is just a tax payment so it doesn't take any time at all. My form 3s are currently taking more than 4 weeks (4.5 on current one in progress with no word yet). Of course... all of this assumes you meet all of the requirements for an FFL.
Re: form 4
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wtopace</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: force_multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I find it hilarious that you can become an FFL holder, pay the SOT, submit form 3s,and have 20 cans, 10 SBR and SBS, and a few FA before someone who submits a form 4 has one can.</div></div>
Lol, my FFL paperwork alone took a year. The SOT, however, is just a tax payment so it doesn't take any time at all. My form 3s are currently taking more than 4 weeks (4.5 on current one in progress with no word yet). Of course... all of this assumes you meet all of the requirements for an FFL. </div></div>
then you did something wrong, I had my FFL in 18 days, SOT in 2 wks, form 3s are talking 3-4wks.... so by my math, I could have had an order in as little as 2mo.... that's faster than a form 4... by law the ATF licensing division has 60 days, from the time they receive a completed packet, to either issue or deny your FFL. Technically as soon as your check is cashed, you've met the SOT requirement, add a month for a Form 3 and you're still quicker than a Form 4...
but you're right, that's assuming that you qualify for an FFL. (the only requirement over buying being that you intend to sell for profit)
doesn't change the fact that I find it hilarious that becoming a dealer is quicker than buying one can.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wtopace</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: force_multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I find it hilarious that you can become an FFL holder, pay the SOT, submit form 3s,and have 20 cans, 10 SBR and SBS, and a few FA before someone who submits a form 4 has one can.</div></div>
Lol, my FFL paperwork alone took a year. The SOT, however, is just a tax payment so it doesn't take any time at all. My form 3s are currently taking more than 4 weeks (4.5 on current one in progress with no word yet). Of course... all of this assumes you meet all of the requirements for an FFL. </div></div>
then you did something wrong, I had my FFL in 18 days, SOT in 2 wks, form 3s are talking 3-4wks.... so by my math, I could have had an order in as little as 2mo.... that's faster than a form 4... by law the ATF licensing division has 60 days, from the time they receive a completed packet, to either issue or deny your FFL. Technically as soon as your check is cashed, you've met the SOT requirement, add a month for a Form 3 and you're still quicker than a Form 4...
but you're right, that's assuming that you qualify for an FFL. (the only requirement over buying being that you intend to sell for profit)
doesn't change the fact that I find it hilarious that becoming a dealer is quicker than buying one can.
Re: form 4
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: force_multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
...I had my FFL in 18 days, SOT in 2 wks, form 3s are talking 3-4wks.... so by my math, <span style="font-weight: bold">I could have had an order in as little as <span style="font-size: 14pt">2mo</span></span>.... that's faster than a form 4... by law the ATF licensing division has 60 days, from the time they receive a completed packet, to either issue or deny your FFL. Technically as soon as your check is cashed, you've met the SOT requirement, <span style="font-weight: bold">add a month for a Form 3 and you're still <span style="font-size: 14pt">quicker than a Form 4</span></span>...
but you're right, that's assuming that you <span style="font-weight: bold">qualify for an FFL. (<span style="text-decoration: underline">the only requirement over buying being that you intend to sell for profit</span>)</span>
doesn't change the fact that I find it hilarious that becoming a dealer is quicker than buying one can. </div></div>
Hilarious indeed! Sort of ironic, bass-ackwards, counter intuitive, etc...take your pick!
Sort of like the "efficient government" oxymoron.
On the other hand, I'm suddenly struck with an urge to take advantage of the "slightly used firearm and suppressor" market.
I might not get many customers for my intended profit margin though so I'd imagine my inventory would stay in stock for quite some time.
Not that I'd ever start a biz with no growth potential...one would have sell at least enough to cover the costs of doing business - state and fed taxes and so on...just thinking out loud
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: force_multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
...I had my FFL in 18 days, SOT in 2 wks, form 3s are talking 3-4wks.... so by my math, <span style="font-weight: bold">I could have had an order in as little as <span style="font-size: 14pt">2mo</span></span>.... that's faster than a form 4... by law the ATF licensing division has 60 days, from the time they receive a completed packet, to either issue or deny your FFL. Technically as soon as your check is cashed, you've met the SOT requirement, <span style="font-weight: bold">add a month for a Form 3 and you're still <span style="font-size: 14pt">quicker than a Form 4</span></span>...
but you're right, that's assuming that you <span style="font-weight: bold">qualify for an FFL. (<span style="text-decoration: underline">the only requirement over buying being that you intend to sell for profit</span>)</span>
doesn't change the fact that I find it hilarious that becoming a dealer is quicker than buying one can. </div></div>
Hilarious indeed! Sort of ironic, bass-ackwards, counter intuitive, etc...take your pick!
Sort of like the "efficient government" oxymoron.
On the other hand, I'm suddenly struck with an urge to take advantage of the "slightly used firearm and suppressor" market.
I might not get many customers for my intended profit margin though so I'd imagine my inventory would stay in stock for quite some time.
Not that I'd ever start a biz with no growth potential...one would have sell at least enough to cover the costs of doing business - state and fed taxes and so on...just thinking out loud
Re: form 4
Got a quick off topic newb question. Can I get the form 4 filled out and wait to recieve the stamp and then buy a suppressor? Just curious if you had to do it all at once. Thanks
Steve
Got a quick off topic newb question. Can I get the form 4 filled out and wait to recieve the stamp and then buy a suppressor? Just curious if you had to do it all at once. Thanks
Steve
Re: form 4
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lionsden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got a quick off topic newb question. Can I get the form 4 filled out and wait to recieve the stamp and then buy a suppressor? Just curious if you had to do it all at once. Thanks
Steve </div></div>
If the dealer is local they sometimes will ask for a down payment on suppressor and they charge the remainder once you come to pick it up. But I dont know many that will let you send off paperwork with no money down. I sure as hell wouldn't do that.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lionsden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got a quick off topic newb question. Can I get the form 4 filled out and wait to recieve the stamp and then buy a suppressor? Just curious if you had to do it all at once. Thanks
Steve </div></div>
If the dealer is local they sometimes will ask for a down payment on suppressor and they charge the remainder once you come to pick it up. But I dont know many that will let you send off paperwork with no money down. I sure as hell wouldn't do that.
Re: form 4
I called the BATFE again yesterday now that it has been 5 months since it went to "pending" on 9/7/11, it is now a 6 month process from then. She told me "try again next month"
I called the BATFE again yesterday now that it has been 5 months since it went to "pending" on 9/7/11, it is now a 6 month process from then. She told me "try again next month"
Re: form 4
A friend just received his after a 6 month wait. They gave no explanation other than they were backlocked. Just be patient, the wait will be worth it in the end. Strangely enough both of mine took 8 weeks, but this was 3 yrs. ago. I think there may be much more interest in supressors now due to all the marketing. Just my .002. Paul.
www.boltfluting.com
A friend just received his after a 6 month wait. They gave no explanation other than they were backlocked. Just be patient, the wait will be worth it in the end. Strangely enough both of mine took 8 weeks, but this was 3 yrs. ago. I think there may be much more interest in supressors now due to all the marketing. Just my .002. Paul.
www.boltfluting.com
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