Suppressors G19 vs M&P9

craines51

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looking at getting a 9mm for shooting some IPDA, range shooting (and getting a Suppressor for down the line).
I've shot Glocks and like them, but I have also been looking at the S&W MP9.
How about some comments/direction from folks who have experience with both/either. pro and cons
thanks
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

Both are great guns and either would serve you well. Both have very good records. Glock may have a bigger aftermarket slice but there is now lots of options for the M&P also.

I think it will come down to feel, so as others will suggest, go to your local range/shop and hold both and close your eyes, pick them up, point them and see which feels/works best for your prefered grip angle.

I've got many Glocks as I like the simple platform and am used to the triggers. But I wouldn't mind getting an M&P down the road. Maybe when the 5" Competition .45 model comes out this Fall.

Good luck.
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

I love the reset, low bore centerline and simplicity of Glocks, and the 19 is a great size.

M&P stuff feels fantastic in the hand, but I was just too used to Glock.

Hilton Yam, though, has really taken a liking to the M&P .45 platform - which says something for the quality.

Obviously, both are good platforms. My vote would go to Glock, for the trigger alone.
 
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I know its not the 19 or m&p9 but I just did a t&e last year for the 21SF and the m&p45. Both guns did well but all of my officers did better with the Glock. Prob just due to the fact that we had 22's for years but thats how it worked out. The M&P did feel better in the hand and was nicer with the backstraps. The Glock had a better reset on the trigger as the m&p was softer and longer.

We ended up with the glock but again that was just our thoughts.

Hope this helps.
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

glock is easier to work on and enhance the trigger etc.

From a reliablity but dirty gun - the glock gets the nod. Can make the M&P fail so easily. The trigger bar safety lock out feature is a stupid design and makes the gun prone to failure imo. So does the hole in the top of the barrel and slide. But for what you do I suppose it would be ok.
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

Love them both, but prefer the M&P. It has all of the aftermarket you'll need (sights, trigger, etc.). I carry a G19 because I like the size, but the 4.25" M&P is a nice size as well.

The Sig P228 has long been discontinued. Sigs are definitely not my choice of firearms (I don't shoot double action pistols at all).
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

M&P9L or M&P9 Pro would be perfect for an entry IPDA gun. The owner and manager of Comp Tac both shoot M&P9's and they know how to shoot. I also own a M&P9 Pro and love it!
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

I have all three and if you are looking for a suggestion to shoot IDPA with, it would be the M&P all day long. I RO all day long when a match comes up, now more and more you see less Glock and more M&P. Primarily most new shooters do not like the Glock grip angle.

If you can shoot a handgun with a longer sight radius, then go with the M&P9 Pro very comparable with the G34.
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dhutch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">M&P9L or M&P9 Pro would be perfect for an <span style="font-style: italic">entry </span>IPDA gun. The owner and manager of Comp Tac both shoot M&P9's and they know how to shoot. I also own a M&P9 Pro and love it! </div></div>

Entry IDPA gun? What could possibly be nicer to shoot IDPA with than those two guns?

I don't shoot much IDPA, but when I do, I shoot a Pro, and I can't possibly picture a nicer gun than that for IDPA. Maybe a 9L with trigger work and sights (the 9L has a lighter slide).
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

I have found for myself and most guys with average size hands that the M&P is just a much more comfortable gun to hold. One earlier post mentioned the bore axis height i believe the M&P sits even lower than most glocks.
In regards to the trigger, the out of the box glock trigger is nicer, however I have found on several M&P's that after about 500 rounds the M&P trigger takes on a whole new feel. most of them out of the box have a horrible gritty feel. its smoothes way out, you also have great after market parts through apex to adjust the trigger. I had Dan Burwell lighten and shorten up my trigger and it is fantastic.
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

As others have said, it's going to be personal preference.

I have a G26, XD9C, and I carry a G21 and now a G21SF on duty. If I were to buy a polymer 9mm right now it would be the S&W M&P9. I like the feel of it better than the Glocks, but I would have to do something about the trigger. I hate the reset on the M&P9 and the pull on the M&P45 is absolutely horrible. If S&W fixes their triggers they will be THE polymer pistol.
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

I have both. The M&P I would compare more with a 17. Modifying the trigger on the M&P is very easy I put a sear from Apex tactical in one of mine and it helped the trigger a lot. I carry a Glock on duty and have had more trigger time on them so I prefer the Glock, but that doesn't stop me from shooting a match with the M&P. Either one is fine just practice with it. Try to borrow a 19 from someone before you buy one. The grip is short. I prefer the 17, or 34.
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As others have said, it's going to be personal preference.

I have a G26, XD9C, and I carry a G21 and now a G21SF on duty. If I were to buy a polymer 9mm right now it would be the S&W M&P9. I like the feel of it better than the Glocks, but I would have to do something about the trigger. I hate the reset on the M&P9 and the pull on the M&P45 is absolutely horrible. If S&W fixes their triggers they will be THE polymer pistol. </div></div>

Can be fixed for less than $50 total by replacing the sear with a tool steel sear either from the Pro models, or the Apex Tactical sear. Obviously, stoning it can make it even better and costs nothing.

Burwell has some excellent information for this. I will probably be working on my own soon, if I have the time.
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

I remember reading about some issues with the early M&P's springs breaking things like that. I've got a little less than 4K down the tube and no problems with mine

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Re: G19 vs M&P9

To me, I felt like asking if this is a trick question. Of course G19 over M&P9, for a better reliability, durability, longer track record, accessories, low bore axis, etc. But to each his own, others feel the same way about M&P9.

Now if you throw in a sig p228, that is also a quality pistol.

I have both glocks and sigs. They each have different pros and cons.

Glocks pros are that their durability and rust resistant are almost unmatched. They are very light with polymer frame, which is nice for carry. Glocks shoot various rounds (hollow point, etc) without problems. Cons are that they are "blocky" and depending on the holster, uncomfortable for me to carry and sometimes harder to conceal. Also no traditional safety and fairly light trigger pull. They triggers are subjective, they have an uneven give to a point before giving more resistant and firing, which some like and others don’t.

Sigs pros are their precision triggers with even smooth pull throughout, alloy heavier frame for recoil management. Their metal frames also allow for crimson trace rubber wrap around grips, which I like more then the options for polymer frame pistols because the laser point of aim does not shift with reholstering, and they feel more comfortable to grip for me. Cons are weight.

Of your choices, glock 19, sig p228, M&P9...I would choose sig p228 because sig is no longer manufacturing them anymore. Sig p228 is also a little slimmer than p229, and with rounded edges comfortable to carry in a proper holster that handles the weight well.

But then it really comes down to which one YOU shot the best.
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

We don't "feel" the same way. We have thousands of rounds through the M&P in competition and thus base our conclusions on empirical reality, not "feelings."
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

You are choosing between two fantastic pistols. I own both the G19 and the M&P9. The M&P9's interchangable back straps are a huge plus in fitting many different hand sizes. After approx. 4,000 rounds downrange, my M&P9 has been flawless. However, I haven't fired or carried my M&P9 in over a year. My buddy competes in IDPA with his M&P9 and does very well.

That being said, I prefer my Glocks to my M&P9. For me, I love the positive reset of the Glock. I compete with a G17, and it has almost 5,000 flawless rounds through it. I have the utmost confidence in its ability to function when called upon. In the last several months, I find myself carrying either my G17, G19 or my G21SF almost exclusively. This is big for me because I am (or used to be?) a 1911 guy. The G19 is a great pistol, and I love mine. In fact, I carried my G19 today. With its weight and size, I feel that it's a great concealed carry pistol.

My recommendation is to handle, manipulate and fire them both if possible. There is no substitute to getting them in your hands. As previously stated, either will fit the task for range work, CCW, home defense or IDPA matches.

Good luck!
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

I have both the m&p pro and the g19. Out of the box the pro has the better trigger. The pro also fit better in my hand and has a better natural point of aim IMO. Like others have said go check out the g17 or g34.
 
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This thread seems appropriate for me to comment in.

I have carried an M&Pc .357 for 2 and a half years. I have put approaching 5000 rounds thru this gun and it has been 100%. Not 99%, 100%!. The only issue I ever had in all those rounds was a squib load and that was due to the ammo, not the gun.

That being said I just ordered a Glock 17 for my new EDC. I never liked the stock Glocks I have shot, ergos sucked for me.

I just completed a two day personal defense handgun class with Cope Reynolds of Southwest Shooting Authority and at the end of it, I asked Cope to let me shoot his Glock. Cope is one of the country's finest Glocksmiths. Suffice to say that the M&Ps trigger can never be as good as a Glocks'. Especially after it has been tuned by an expert gunsmith. I had the trigger worked on my M&P after only 100 rounds and there is no comparison in my mind.

It sucks that Glock is so rigid in their response to users wishes and that for some (like me) the gun has to be modified to make the ergos work.(The gen4 is NOT the answer). Glock's are a damn fine gun.

So, I ordered the G17 (GNS) from Cope and told him to do a grip reduction, Boa Stiple, level 3 trigger, front cocking serrations, extended slide lock, oval mag release and
undercut and round the trigger guard. If this turns out as I expect it to, it will not be my last Glock. Again, it sucks that so much needs to be done to the Glock to make it fit me. The M&P ergos are fantastic out of the box. The trigger is the key.

If S&W ever comes up with a decent trigger for the M&P line, I will own them also. When it comes to my EDC, I want the best. Too bad neither company makes it without mods.
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

I own or have owned a

G17 stock trigger
G19 3.5LB ghost rocket
G19 Fulcrum trigger
G20 3.5LB Ghost, full polish
G22 Stock
G30 3.5LB Ghost
G30 stock
G32 Fulcrum trigger

All great guns, performed well. But my

M&P357 with polish and apex sear feels better then any Glock. It is comparable to my full polish Colt 70 series
 
Re: G19 vs M&P9

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We don't "feel" the same way. We have thousands of rounds through the M&P in competition and thus base our conclusions on empirical reality, not "feelings."

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Glock 19 was first produced in 1988 vs. M&P in 2005. So yes, I do "feel" that Glock has a longer track record of durability and reliability. But like I said, others like M&P 9s. It boils down to whichever you shoot better, and prefer.