That’s why you negotiate the extended warranty down.It’s your money... Won’t be mine... Ever!
Here’s my rules for a vehicle purchase: if it breaks during the warranty period you’re gonna fix it... promptly and courteously! If I break it outside of the warranty period I’ll gladly pay you to fix it... but... it better be right or you’ll be fixing it again on your time and on your dime. If I find even a hint that it broke due to a known issue, published, or otherwise, then you and/or Ford are gonna fix it (see first point above) or I’ll become your dealership’s worst nightmare... for however long it takes... If any of that is unacceptable you have every right to decline my business; I’ll peacefully be on my way. Just want you to know what you’re signing up for...
he's right, though. they are huge profit-makers for the dealership, and only extend the factory warranty slightly because they overlap. the probability is that most people will never keep the car long enough to recoup the expenditure, and the vast majority never think to search out a potential refund when they trade it in.That’s why you negotiate the extended warranty down.
car dealerships are whores. they'll do anything for money. walk back in the day after a drag out fight, and if you have money and credit, the other salesmen will still beg for your business.Like I said: it’s your money... IMHO, if you're negotiating on the warranty you’re negotiating on the wrong thing... and probably too late... YMMV, of course...
My way’s been working for me for 40+ years. Only had to envoke the worst nightmare clause one time, with the local Volvo dealer on my wife’s V70 wagon. By the time we got done I ended up with a brand new replacement at dead cost less full retail value for the 50 K mile car they butchered ( which I independently verified ). I’m pretty sure they’d have been willing to pay me to just go away by the time we got done, but... we’ve done business twice since... just needed to develop a mutual understanding !
your salesman will be making at least $350 cash bonus on that warranty package, plus 20% of the front end profit on the truck and a varying amount up to 20% on the back end. plus unit bonus if he meets quota, up to 1k usually, and monthly warranty quota bonus which can be up to another 1k.I just went to Flood Ford‘s site and priced the extended warranty and prepaid maintenance plans. I’m interested in the 8 year 125,000 mile plans:
Premiumcare (covers all the electronic gizmos too)
8/125 $0 deductible $2735
8/125 $50 deductible $2345
Premium maintenance (all regular services including shocks, spark plugs, brakes)
8/125 5K interval (25 services) $2745
8/125 10K interval (13 services) $1840
If I did the $50 deductible and the 5K interval plans I’d be spending $5090 for basically everything but tires to 125K on a high performance truck. The shock rebuilds are expensive, $700 from the aftermarket, and new replacement shocks are even more. Cam phasers out of warranty are expensive. I don’t even want to think about getting into that 10 speed trans $$$. 7.3% of the cost of the vehicle for those coverages seems like a no brainer. I work as a consultant in dealership service department, I see the bills that rack up on stuff over 100K. Also, these plans are transferable to another owner, so the resale value should be higher on the truck.
I had two major repairs on my VW Passat in the past 10K miles, one was a dual mass flywheel that was covered under warranty ($2400 otherwise, I was only a week from warranty expiration, I paid an extra $550 for a new clutch to go in while warranty was paying the labor) and the second was a water pump/timing belt (retail price about $1850, bro deal price was $1300). So yeah, I’m fine with paying for warranty.
I work in the car business, I know how it works. I would be purchasing the warranty from a dealer‘s website on the other side of the country, not from the dealer selling me the truck. The selling dealer would probably mark it up another 40% to sell it.your salesman will be making at least $350 cash bonus on that warranty package, plus 20% of the front end profit on the truck and a varying amount up to 20% on the back end. plus unit bonus if he meets quota, up to 1k usually, and monthly warranty quota bonus which can be up to another 1k.
I'd at least ask to be taken out to dinner first.
My dealer pulls up the Ford Esp site. You add your location and what package you want. No snake oil, no additional markup. I was also told the warranty is based on a F-150 and not the added goodies on the Raptor. Cheap insurance on a Raptor if you ask me.I work in the car business, I know how it works. I would be purchasing the warranty from a dealer‘s website on the other side of the country, not from the dealer selling me the truck. The selling dealer would probably mark it up another 40% to sell it.
My LML is putting 605hp and 1050tq to the ground and it doesn't have to pipe fake engine sound through the stereo. That is the gayest shit I have ever heard.
Unfortunately it's getting difficult to find modern cars that don't do this. Either fake noises through stereo or with physical "sound tubes" through the firewall.Yes, fake engine noise through the stereo is gay. My AM/FM/cassette would unreel the tape in disgust.
Not sure about the new live valve units, but according to what I’ve read the 2018 and older needed to have the shocks rebuilt every 40-50K. There are companies that will do it for $600-900, sometimes on an exchange basis. Replacement is north of $3K for the set. Another reason why I’ll be purchasing the extended warranty and service plans.Any of you long term owners ever have to service the dampers? How many miles did you get on them? Did they slowly die or fail suddenly? What kind of driving? Thanks.
Make sure you budget for a N-Guage and 5-Star tuning. I changed the oil at 2500 miles and have ran a 93 Octane Performance tune since than. Its what the stock Raptor should have been.I had the dealer place my order for a Leadfoot grey super cab 802A yesterday. It’s the most expensive thing I’ve ever bought besides a home, but it’ll be worth it. I’m going to be selling my diesel truck and my car to offset the cost. Now the waiting begins. Someone post snipers near all of the Ford truck plants so no looters fuck up my order.
The fake engine noise (which is hella gay) can be shut off with Forscan. Apparently there are a bunch of other tweaks that can be done to improve the truck experience too.
I've needed to rebuild mine around 30k miles each time. Granted I use my truck at our ranch and I've also ran the TRR and also run the Baja twice.Not sure about the new live valve units, but according to what I’ve read the 2018 and older needed to have the shocks rebuilt every 40-50K. There are companies that will do it for $600-900, sometimes on an exchange basis. Replacement is north of $3K for the set. Another reason why I’ll be purchasing the extended warranty and service plans.
Your post is useless without pictures.Snipers Hide's to blame for yet another significant expenditure.
Was looking to replace my 130k mile '13 6.2L Platinum Steel Body Dream Truck and because of this thread, rooted out a well under 1K mile Ruby Red '14 Roush Rapter Sp Edition from an auto collector. Ordered new, trailered to buyer, driven lightly, never off-road, then stored for annual oil changes and monthly starts. Paid too much, but get to roll back the calendar with 2 years left on extended Ford 7 yr warranty. No Start/Stop, good ole steel, and 6.2 Loving Liters of Supercharged Global Warming Goodness.
Each of you should be ashamed for leading me down this path of perdition!
And you'll probably have less $$ expended in maintenance and it will be trouble free for far longer than most Ford models. I do like both Gen of Raptor's I've ridden in or driven - would be nice to have but it wouldn't make sense for me and my needs.I must be in the poor camp driving a 06 Tundra with 130,000 miles lol
My gen 2 is getting the similar MPG. This thread is turning into the exact same argument on the Raptor forums. The gen 1 guys mess with the gen 2 guys because their V8 ego.I didn’t read many replies - figured they were like any other Raptor thread.
I have an ‘18. Mid level trim package, bought it 1800 miles away for less than MSRP. Gets 16-18 MPG. Hauls ass too. I have SuperDuty trucks for towing so this is my going to town for parts work truck. No complaints whatsoever. Everyone who has ever ridden in it has been impressed.
Beach pic is Pismo - was too busy to take any action pics but it kept up with a built Dodge Cummins on 40s w/long travel KingsView attachment 7347823View attachment 7347824View attachment 7347825
I must be living in a homeless camp I have a 99 F2 50 with 300,000 miles on it but I am starting to build a new house and cannot even think of a new vehicle for many years I will just keep it goingI must be in the poor camp driving a 06 Tundra with 130,000 miles lol