who knows of a company that makes a good 20" laptop for cheap? or bigger? looking for something for word processing with a GOOD keyboard to it. I could never get used to standard laptop keyboards.
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do they make 20" laptops?
do they make 20" laptops?
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biggest Ive seen is like 17 and thats quite large.
biggest Ive seen is like 17 and thats quite large.
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Dell came out with a NEW 20" laptop but it's sickly expensive from what I recall. was wondering if there was something older or simpler.
Dell came out with a NEW 20" laptop but it's sickly expensive from what I recall. was wondering if there was something older or simpler.
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Just go to your local drive-in movie theater. I hear they have wifi.
Just go to your local drive-in movie theater. I hear they have wifi.
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actually I was going to use this for book-writing.
actually I was going to use this for book-writing.
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Get a docking station, or a seperate standard keyboard & plug it into a port on the laptop. On the 20" thing, practice your Googlefu. And actually, the search engines on the various computer manufacturer's respective websites make it pretty easy to hunt down what you want based on your primary, designated feature(s) requirement.
Get a docking station, or a seperate standard keyboard & plug it into a port on the laptop. On the 20" thing, practice your Googlefu. And actually, the search engines on the various computer manufacturer's respective websites make it pretty easy to hunt down what you want based on your primary, designated feature(s) requirement.
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Your laptop can be customized with a flat screen monitor, conventional keyboard, and even a mouse. But why? Seem sorta like tryin' to make a Sow's Ear out of a perectly good Silk Purse... Reading magnifiers can be bought in a drug store for under $20.
Your laptop can be customized with a flat screen monitor, conventional keyboard, and even a mouse. But why? Seem sorta like tryin' to make a Sow's Ear out of a perectly good Silk Purse... Reading magnifiers can be bought in a drug store for under $20.
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HP
HP
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My Toshiba L-455 has a 15.6" screen, Win 7, and cost $329+tax as a Best Buy Weekly Special back during the week when Win 7 was first released. Bought it so I'd have something I could port down to Florida easily to access I-Net and watch DVD's. All I felt I needed to add was a good pair of noise cancelling earphones. Never given me the slightest trouble.
Greg
My Toshiba L-455 has a 15.6" screen, Win 7, and cost $329+tax as a Best Buy Weekly Special back during the week when Win 7 was first released. Bought it so I'd have something I could port down to Florida easily to access I-Net and watch DVD's. All I felt I needed to add was a good pair of noise cancelling earphones. Never given me the slightest trouble.
Greg
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dude honestly I would just bite the bullet and go buy an apple macbook pro(if you you gotta have the large screen, 17" though). its alot of money but it is money well spent, I dont go looking at porn or nothing but I would have done ruined a regular computer with viruses by now. Apple cant get viruses, so therefore you have the peace of mind and no worries about is going to this shady looking website going to screw my computer all up. I can go on anything I want and have no worries. Its pricey but by the time you spend money on antivirus junk and then still having to get your computer repaired because some "keyboard cool kid" thinks its fun to build new viruses that screw up your computer that you payed for with your hard earned money, you really coming out ahead. Its alot up front but you get alot and you get peace of mind.
dude honestly I would just bite the bullet and go buy an apple macbook pro(if you you gotta have the large screen, 17" though). its alot of money but it is money well spent, I dont go looking at porn or nothing but I would have done ruined a regular computer with viruses by now. Apple cant get viruses, so therefore you have the peace of mind and no worries about is going to this shady looking website going to screw my computer all up. I can go on anything I want and have no worries. Its pricey but by the time you spend money on antivirus junk and then still having to get your computer repaired because some "keyboard cool kid" thinks its fun to build new viruses that screw up your computer that you payed for with your hard earned money, you really coming out ahead. Its alot up front but you get alot and you get peace of mind.
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I have a 17" widescreen HP and the docking station with the dual video out and a 24" flat screen. I also have a std. keyborad and mouse. I have this set-up for drawing in CAD. The 17" WS is lagre enough to draw on. The extra keyboard and mouse to mimic what my keystrokes are accustom to.
Now for the bad news. The HP labtop has had the motherboard fry twice. The first time under wannarty and now it's just sitting.
I would look into Dell for a new machine if I was shopping, or get the best wannarty you can and the extended in store wannarty. Labtops that travel more than mine would have to be made right, cause my HP didn't travel much and still had problems.
I have a 17" widescreen HP and the docking station with the dual video out and a 24" flat screen. I also have a std. keyborad and mouse. I have this set-up for drawing in CAD. The 17" WS is lagre enough to draw on. The extra keyboard and mouse to mimic what my keystrokes are accustom to.
Now for the bad news. The HP labtop has had the motherboard fry twice. The first time under wannarty and now it's just sitting.
I would look into Dell for a new machine if I was shopping, or get the best wannarty you can and the extended in store wannarty. Labtops that travel more than mine would have to be made right, cause my HP didn't travel much and still had problems.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trey Warren</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dude honestly I would just bite the bullet and go buy an apple macbook pro(if you you gotta have the large screen, 17" though). its alot of money but it is money well spent, I dont go looking at porn or nothing but I would have done ruined a regular computer with viruses by now. <span style="font-weight: bold">Apple cant get viruses, so therefore you have the peace of mind and no worries about is going to this shady looking website going to screw my computer all up.</span> I can go on anything I want and have no worries. Its pricey but by the time you spend money on antivirus junk and then still having to get your computer repaired because some "keyboard cool kid" thinks its fun to build new viruses that screw up your computer that you payed for with your hard earned money, you really coming out ahead. Its alot up front but you get alot and you get peace of mind. </div></div>
Apple/Mac can get a virus... there just aren't very many written for them.
Why try to affect a minute piece of the computing population when you can easily infect the majority? Last I saw there were less than a dozen Mac virus/trojans circulating for the Mac OS.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trey Warren</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dude honestly I would just bite the bullet and go buy an apple macbook pro(if you you gotta have the large screen, 17" though). its alot of money but it is money well spent, I dont go looking at porn or nothing but I would have done ruined a regular computer with viruses by now. <span style="font-weight: bold">Apple cant get viruses, so therefore you have the peace of mind and no worries about is going to this shady looking website going to screw my computer all up.</span> I can go on anything I want and have no worries. Its pricey but by the time you spend money on antivirus junk and then still having to get your computer repaired because some "keyboard cool kid" thinks its fun to build new viruses that screw up your computer that you payed for with your hard earned money, you really coming out ahead. Its alot up front but you get alot and you get peace of mind. </div></div>
Apple/Mac can get a virus... there just aren't very many written for them.
Why try to affect a minute piece of the computing population when you can easily infect the majority? Last I saw there were less than a dozen Mac virus/trojans circulating for the Mac OS.
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$399 laptop and then get a 20" LCD monitor and just use the LCD monitor as your base station.
$399 laptop and then get a 20" LCD monitor and just use the LCD monitor as your base station.
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Whatever you do, don't buy an HP.
Whatever you do, don't buy an HP.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ufgators68</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trey Warren</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dude honestly I would just bite the bullet and go buy an apple macbook pro(if you you gotta have the large screen, 17" though). its alot of money but it is money well spent, I dont go looking at porn or nothing but I would have done ruined a regular computer with viruses by now. <span style="font-weight: bold">Apple cant get viruses, so therefore you have the peace of mind and no worries about is going to this shady looking website going to screw my computer all up.</span> I can go on anything I want and have no worries. Its pricey but by the time you spend money on antivirus junk and then still having to get your computer repaired because some "keyboard cool kid" thinks its fun to build new viruses that screw up your computer that you payed for with your hard earned money, you really coming out ahead. Its alot up front but you get alot and you get peace of mind. </div></div>
Apple/Mac can get a virus... there just aren't very many written for them.
Why try to affect a minute piece of the computing population when you can easily infect the majority? Last I saw there were less than a dozen Mac virus/trojans circulating for the Mac OS. </div></div>
Read here:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/144921/mac_hack_contest_bug_had_been_public_for_a_year.html
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ufgators68</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trey Warren</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dude honestly I would just bite the bullet and go buy an apple macbook pro(if you you gotta have the large screen, 17" though). its alot of money but it is money well spent, I dont go looking at porn or nothing but I would have done ruined a regular computer with viruses by now. <span style="font-weight: bold">Apple cant get viruses, so therefore you have the peace of mind and no worries about is going to this shady looking website going to screw my computer all up.</span> I can go on anything I want and have no worries. Its pricey but by the time you spend money on antivirus junk and then still having to get your computer repaired because some "keyboard cool kid" thinks its fun to build new viruses that screw up your computer that you payed for with your hard earned money, you really coming out ahead. Its alot up front but you get alot and you get peace of mind. </div></div>
Apple/Mac can get a virus... there just aren't very many written for them.
Why try to affect a minute piece of the computing population when you can easily infect the majority? Last I saw there were less than a dozen Mac virus/trojans circulating for the Mac OS. </div></div>
Read here:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/144921/mac_hack_contest_bug_had_been_public_for_a_year.html
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kcsturm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">$399 laptop and then get a 20" LCD monitor and just use the LCD monitor as your base station. </div></div>
beat me to it. A good card in a regular laptop even a netbook with separate usb keyboard and mouse and you will have huge battery life with full size everything
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kcsturm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">$399 laptop and then get a 20" LCD monitor and just use the LCD monitor as your base station. </div></div>
beat me to it. A good card in a regular laptop even a netbook with separate usb keyboard and mouse and you will have huge battery life with full size everything
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COURAGEWOLF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Read here:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/144921/mac_hack_contest_bug_had_been_public_for_a_year.html</div></div>
My info was outdated. I don't keep up with the Mac OS as much as I do PC. The OS X version of Mac is supposed to be bulletproof, according to another source I checked out.
FWIW... there are 27 known, working, viruses for the pre OS X versions.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COURAGEWOLF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Read here:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/144921/mac_hack_contest_bug_had_been_public_for_a_year.html</div></div>
My info was outdated. I don't keep up with the Mac OS as much as I do PC. The OS X version of Mac is supposed to be bulletproof, according to another source I checked out.
FWIW... there are 27 known, working, viruses for the pre OS X versions.
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I'm on an NMCI seat and it is a dual core w/2 gigs of ram and a 25" monitor - just as fast as a regular PC..
HP Laptops are decent, occasionally someone has an issue - and if you get one with an AMD they are notorious for burning out a month after warranty.
Get it with an Intel and it will last forever, AMD's just have a bad head problem that is not forgiving - I've taken 3 in so far in the past 3 months...
I'm on an NMCI seat and it is a dual core w/2 gigs of ram and a 25" monitor - just as fast as a regular PC..
HP Laptops are decent, occasionally someone has an issue - and if you get one with an AMD they are notorious for burning out a month after warranty.
Get it with an Intel and it will last forever, AMD's just have a bad head problem that is not forgiving - I've taken 3 in so far in the past 3 months...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ufgators68</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trey Warren</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dude honestly I would just bite the bullet and go buy an apple macbook pro(if you you gotta have the large screen, 17" though). its alot of money but it is money well spent, I dont go looking at porn or nothing but I would have done ruined a regular computer with viruses by now. <span style="font-weight: bold">Apple cant get viruses, so therefore you have the peace of mind and no worries about is going to this shady looking website going to screw my computer all up.</span> I can go on anything I want and have no worries. Its pricey but by the time you spend money on antivirus junk and then still having to get your computer repaired because some "keyboard cool kid" thinks its fun to build new viruses that screw up your computer that you payed for with your hard earned money, you really coming out ahead. Its alot up front but you get alot and you get peace of mind. </div></div>
Apple/Mac can get a virus... there just aren't very many written for them.
Why try to affect a minute piece of the computing population when you can easily infect the majority? Last I saw there were less than a dozen Mac virus/trojans circulating for the Mac OS. </div></div>
Apple CAN'T get a virus-bullshit.Better read up on your computer security.
Here is an APPLE security update. US-CERT Current Activity
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ufgators68</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trey Warren</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dude honestly I would just bite the bullet and go buy an apple macbook pro(if you you gotta have the large screen, 17" though). its alot of money but it is money well spent, I dont go looking at porn or nothing but I would have done ruined a regular computer with viruses by now. <span style="font-weight: bold">Apple cant get viruses, so therefore you have the peace of mind and no worries about is going to this shady looking website going to screw my computer all up.</span> I can go on anything I want and have no worries. Its pricey but by the time you spend money on antivirus junk and then still having to get your computer repaired because some "keyboard cool kid" thinks its fun to build new viruses that screw up your computer that you payed for with your hard earned money, you really coming out ahead. Its alot up front but you get alot and you get peace of mind. </div></div>
Apple/Mac can get a virus... there just aren't very many written for them.
Why try to affect a minute piece of the computing population when you can easily infect the majority? Last I saw there were less than a dozen Mac virus/trojans circulating for the Mac OS. </div></div>
Apple CAN'T get a virus-bullshit.Better read up on your computer security.
Here is an APPLE security update. US-CERT Current Activity
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true you can get it, but dont be mistaken there is a much larger population of apple users out there than you think, and its only growing daily.
But when apple does show up with a virus they immediately remedy the problem. Apple will back up there stuff by saying it wont get a virus, they stop standing by that whenever you go with the 1/2mac1/2 windows configuration
true you can get it, but dont be mistaken there is a much larger population of apple users out there than you think, and its only growing daily.
But when apple does show up with a virus they immediately remedy the problem. Apple will back up there stuff by saying it wont get a virus, they stop standing by that whenever you go with the 1/2mac1/2 windows configuration
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The thing is, Mac is constantly working for you to help keep your computer running. PC says yay we sold you a computer, good luck, oh and your going to need all these virus protection programs to help keep your $1000 investment running. Once you go mac you wont go back. I love mine and soon as I pay off this one(im a student so its not that expensive, Im just broke) I plan to go back and get a Mac desktop too
The thing is, Mac is constantly working for you to help keep your computer running. PC says yay we sold you a computer, good luck, oh and your going to need all these virus protection programs to help keep your $1000 investment running. Once you go mac you wont go back. I love mine and soon as I pay off this one(im a student so its not that expensive, Im just broke) I plan to go back and get a Mac desktop too
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Actually, Apple is working to extract the maximum possible amout of your money that they can get from you.
And Windows machines don't need an antivirus program that you have to pay for. Microsoft Security Essentials is a free download from Microsoft.
Both Dell and HP are selling Windows 7 laptops in my local store for around $350, which makes them a much better buy than any Apple product.
Actually, Apple is working to extract the maximum possible amout of your money that they can get from you.
And Windows machines don't need an antivirus program that you have to pay for. Microsoft Security Essentials is a free download from Microsoft.
Both Dell and HP are selling Windows 7 laptops in my local store for around $350, which makes them a much better buy than any Apple product.
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Yea especially since as soon as you download that free program. It's obsolete 3 days later cuz ppl want to make new viruses. I've had several pc's and now that I have a mac, pc's don't hold a match to the reliability of mac.
Yea especially since as soon as you download that free program. It's obsolete 3 days later cuz ppl want to make new viruses. I've had several pc's and now that I have a mac, pc's don't hold a match to the reliability of mac.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yea especially since as soon as you download that free program. It's obsolete 3 days later cuz ppl want to make new viruses.</div></div>
As is often the case with Mac fanatics, you don't know what you're talking about. The virus and spyware definitions in the Microsoft Security Essentials program are updated frequently, generally on at least a daily basis.
I don't have a problem with Macs, if you like what they do. But if you're going to run down another system, for god's sake at least know what the hell you're talking about.
You're a student. I was designing microprocessor-based systems the year Apple Computer was incorporated.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yea especially since as soon as you download that free program. It's obsolete 3 days later cuz ppl want to make new viruses.</div></div>
As is often the case with Mac fanatics, you don't know what you're talking about. The virus and spyware definitions in the Microsoft Security Essentials program are updated frequently, generally on at least a daily basis.
I don't have a problem with Macs, if you like what they do. But if you're going to run down another system, for god's sake at least know what the hell you're talking about.
You're a student. I was designing microprocessor-based systems the year Apple Computer was incorporated.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yea especially since as soon as you download that free program. It's obsolete 3 days later cuz ppl want to make new viruses.</div></div>
As is often the case with Mac fanatics, you don't know what you're talking about. The virus and spyware definitions in the Microsoft Security Essentials program are updated frequently, generally on at least a daily basis.
I don't have a problem with Macs, if you like what they do. But if you're going to run down another system, for god's sake at least know what the hell you're talking about.
You're a student. I was designing microprocessor-based systems the year Apple Computer was incorporated.
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Well great for you. but I do know some of what I'm talking about. No, I may not be a goo-roo like yourself but I do know that I have used that free download before and our computer right now has viruses with it. You can disclaim my knowledge about computers all you want, but facts are facts and my personal experiences speak plenty enough for themselves. We have owned 4 pc's(only one without the internet running windows 3.1) Every one of those computers except the 3.1 and the newest one has had to be wiped out and everything reinstalled because of viruses. the last desktop had it done 3-4 times and needed it again when we threw it out. the new one hasn't had it done but it needs it done. While miraculously this mac I have hasn't had a single virus. And I try to see if I can do it. With the exception of porn, I go on all kinds of shady looking sites just to see. and Nothing. I may not know all the technical terms or what the manufacturer stats are or any other computer mumbo jumbo, but I do know that my experience with this mac has far exceeded anything that I have seen in a PC/windows product.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yea especially since as soon as you download that free program. It's obsolete 3 days later cuz ppl want to make new viruses.</div></div>
As is often the case with Mac fanatics, you don't know what you're talking about. The virus and spyware definitions in the Microsoft Security Essentials program are updated frequently, generally on at least a daily basis.
I don't have a problem with Macs, if you like what they do. But if you're going to run down another system, for god's sake at least know what the hell you're talking about.
You're a student. I was designing microprocessor-based systems the year Apple Computer was incorporated.
</div></div>
Well great for you. but I do know some of what I'm talking about. No, I may not be a goo-roo like yourself but I do know that I have used that free download before and our computer right now has viruses with it. You can disclaim my knowledge about computers all you want, but facts are facts and my personal experiences speak plenty enough for themselves. We have owned 4 pc's(only one without the internet running windows 3.1) Every one of those computers except the 3.1 and the newest one has had to be wiped out and everything reinstalled because of viruses. the last desktop had it done 3-4 times and needed it again when we threw it out. the new one hasn't had it done but it needs it done. While miraculously this mac I have hasn't had a single virus. And I try to see if I can do it. With the exception of porn, I go on all kinds of shady looking sites just to see. and Nothing. I may not know all the technical terms or what the manufacturer stats are or any other computer mumbo jumbo, but I do know that my experience with this mac has far exceeded anything that I have seen in a PC/windows product.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Actually, Apple is working to extract the maximum possible amout of your money that they can get from you.
And Windows machines don't need an antivirus program that you have to pay for. Microsoft Security Essentials is a free download from Microsoft.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Both Dell and HP are selling Windows 7 laptops in my local store for around $350, which makes them a much better buy than any Apple product.</span>
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WOW seriously. I can promise you your $350 dollar dell/hp isn't going to hold a match to any apple computer. Since you seem to know so much why don't you match specs on one of these to the lowest laptop apple offers: macbook, and tell me how much better they are then. Im sure that $350 lappy is lightning fast too.
blow that smoke somewhere else. Even if the stats line up, the quality of parts won't be the same.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Actually, Apple is working to extract the maximum possible amout of your money that they can get from you.
And Windows machines don't need an antivirus program that you have to pay for. Microsoft Security Essentials is a free download from Microsoft.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Both Dell and HP are selling Windows 7 laptops in my local store for around $350, which makes them a much better buy than any Apple product.</span>
</div></div>
WOW seriously. I can promise you your $350 dollar dell/hp isn't going to hold a match to any apple computer. Since you seem to know so much why don't you match specs on one of these to the lowest laptop apple offers: macbook, and tell me how much better they are then. Im sure that $350 lappy is lightning fast too.
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Trey, I can tell you one thing, arguing with Lindy on any subject will eventually make you look and sound like a fool. You are dangerously close to jumping that line.
Mac has done a great job at marketing and design, no doubt. I look at Mac every time that I'm ready for a new computer, but always realize the value is in PC. Macs are for people who can't figure out how to make a PC run right
Trey, I can tell you one thing, arguing with Lindy on any subject will eventually make you look and sound like a fool. You are dangerously close to jumping that line.
Mac has done a great job at marketing and design, no doubt. I look at Mac every time that I'm ready for a new computer, but always realize the value is in PC. Macs are for people who can't figure out how to make a PC run right
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Concur,
You can have a "conversation" with Lindy, or even a "debate" regarding your point of view. Having an argument with him is tantamount to arguing with the Britannica Encyclopedia COMPANY except they don't DO it for real they just think about it.
Look up "Arcanamaven" for a glimpse at what your getting into.
Just sayin'
Proceed as you will. One way will provide hours of humor for us the other will add "smart" points to your account.
Cheers,
Doc
Concur,
You can have a "conversation" with Lindy, or even a "debate" regarding your point of view. Having an argument with him is tantamount to arguing with the Britannica Encyclopedia COMPANY except they don't DO it for real they just think about it.
Look up "Arcanamaven" for a glimpse at what your getting into.
Just sayin'
Proceed as you will. One way will provide hours of humor for us the other will add "smart" points to your account.
Cheers,
Doc
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Well once again I'm speaking from MY personal experiences. And my personal experiences are mac all the way. I have done nothing but eventually been let down and ticked off when using a pc. And everyone I know with an apple computer feels the same way. I think pc's are for people who are scared to take the step. I mean seriously this computer is WAY better than any pc that I've ever owned or dealt with. So much that I can't wait to buy a desktop as well. I was worried about and skeptical with mac at first too but now that I'm on this side, i will never buy another pc. This thing is way more reliable and user friendly than any pc I've owned. Once again this is my personal account so regardless of stats and other stuff, you can't discount my personal experiences and several of my friends feel the same way(they turnedme on to mac)
Well once again I'm speaking from MY personal experiences. And my personal experiences are mac all the way. I have done nothing but eventually been let down and ticked off when using a pc. And everyone I know with an apple computer feels the same way. I think pc's are for people who are scared to take the step. I mean seriously this computer is WAY better than any pc that I've ever owned or dealt with. So much that I can't wait to buy a desktop as well. I was worried about and skeptical with mac at first too but now that I'm on this side, i will never buy another pc. This thing is way more reliable and user friendly than any pc I've owned. Once again this is my personal account so regardless of stats and other stuff, you can't discount my personal experiences and several of my friends feel the same way(they turnedme on to mac)
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back to the OP, most alienware/clevo 17" laptops have full keyboards. you can get a used 7700 for about $800.
acer makes a good 20" laptop for a reasonable price
seen here
sony makes one here
dell no longer sells the xps2010 abortion.
disregard fanboy, apple still rips off customers with ridiculous prices for mediocre performance.
back to the OP, most alienware/clevo 17" laptops have full keyboards. you can get a used 7700 for about $800.
acer makes a good 20" laptop for a reasonable price
seen here
sony makes one here
dell no longer sells the xps2010 abortion.
disregard fanboy, apple still rips off customers with ridiculous prices for mediocre performance.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dsparil</div><div class="ubbcode-body">who knows of a company that makes a good 20" laptop for cheap? </div></div>
Trey, the other thing to consider is the orginal question of the guy that started the thread. He asked for a large screen laptop for cheap to simply do word processing on, you recommended one that at 17" starts at $2500....starts at $2500!!
That's like you asking for a recommendation on an economy car to get to drive 3 miles to work and back and I recommend a BMW 7 series.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dsparil</div><div class="ubbcode-body">who knows of a company that makes a good 20" laptop for cheap? </div></div>
Trey, the other thing to consider is the orginal question of the guy that started the thread. He asked for a large screen laptop for cheap to simply do word processing on, you recommended one that at 17" starts at $2500....starts at $2500!!
That's like you asking for a recommendation on an economy car to get to drive 3 miles to work and back and I recommend a BMW 7 series.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dsparil</div><div class="ubbcode-body">who knows of a company that makes a good 20" laptop for cheap? </div></div>
Trey, the other thing to consider is the orginal question of the guy that started the thread. He asked for a large screen laptop for cheap to simply do word processing on, you recommended one that at 17" starts at $2500....starts at $2500!!
That's like you asking for a recommendation on an economy car to get to drive 3 miles to work and back and I recommend a BMW 7 series. </div></div>
ah, touche. That is correct. I didn't think of the cost. I just knew the pro was the only model that the 17" came in. I forgot about the huge price jump from the 13" pro to the 17". so yea if you want a huge screen and low price, Apple doesn't have anything for ya sorry.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dsparil</div><div class="ubbcode-body">who knows of a company that makes a good 20" laptop for cheap? </div></div>
Trey, the other thing to consider is the orginal question of the guy that started the thread. He asked for a large screen laptop for cheap to simply do word processing on, you recommended one that at 17" starts at $2500....starts at $2500!!
That's like you asking for a recommendation on an economy car to get to drive 3 miles to work and back and I recommend a BMW 7 series. </div></div>
ah, touche. That is correct. I didn't think of the cost. I just knew the pro was the only model that the 17" came in. I forgot about the huge price jump from the 13" pro to the 17". so yea if you want a huge screen and low price, Apple doesn't have anything for ya sorry.
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A friend of mine has been in the computer business as long as there has <span style="font-style: italic">been</span> a computer business - and I don't mean personal computers, either, as he was one of the original columnists for Byte magazine. (Yeah, I'm dating myself. I'm old.)
He says that an Apple is a great system as long as the software will do exactly what you want to do. If so, doing things with an Apple is simple.
But, he says, a Microsoft system can be made to do anything.
When Jason said, "Macs are for people who can't figure out how to make a PC run right," he was right on the money.
A friend of mine has been in the computer business as long as there has <span style="font-style: italic">been</span> a computer business - and I don't mean personal computers, either, as he was one of the original columnists for Byte magazine. (Yeah, I'm dating myself. I'm old.)
He says that an Apple is a great system as long as the software will do exactly what you want to do. If so, doing things with an Apple is simple.
But, he says, a Microsoft system can be made to do anything.
When Jason said, "Macs are for people who can't figure out how to make a PC run right," he was right on the money.
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Thats cool, Lindy!
I used to read Byte regularly. It ws a great mag back in the day.
Do you rememeber the IBM clone project they had spread over multiple issues? It was based on the 8086 processor rather than the 8088 in the original PC, IIRC.
Thats cool, Lindy!
I used to read Byte regularly. It ws a great mag back in the day.
Do you rememeber the IBM clone project they had spread over multiple issues? It was based on the 8086 processor rather than the 8088 in the original PC, IIRC.
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Heck, I designed systems based on the Intel 4004. I'm old.
And I'm pleased not to have to do that any more. The sun is up over Aransas Bay, and the fishermen across the street are headed out for another day of standing in the water waving sticks. I need to get the sailboat ready to go in the water. Life is good.
Heck, I designed systems based on the Intel 4004. I'm old.
And I'm pleased not to have to do that any more. The sun is up over Aransas Bay, and the fishermen across the street are headed out for another day of standing in the water waving sticks. I need to get the sailboat ready to go in the water. Life is good.
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4 bit processor?
Yes....that does date you.
Fair winds and following seas!
4 bit processor?
Yes....that does date you.
Fair winds and following seas!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When Jason said, "Macs are for people who can't figure out how to make a PC run right," he was right on the money.
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Amen LOL - I always say that - save for people doing graphics but nowdays PC's can do those as well.
The HP laptop with the huge 17 or 19 screen - my neighbor has had one since early to mid 2000's and uses that thing DAILY to look at philipino porn...they work great!
Linday - did you know the first mars Pathfinder rover had an Intel 8088 processor in it running a modified version of BSD unix?
I have heard the two rovers up there now have something like 80286 processors
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When Jason said, "Macs are for people who can't figure out how to make a PC run right," he was right on the money.
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Amen LOL - I always say that - save for people doing graphics but nowdays PC's can do those as well.
The HP laptop with the huge 17 or 19 screen - my neighbor has had one since early to mid 2000's and uses that thing DAILY to look at philipino porn...they work great!
Linday - did you know the first mars Pathfinder rover had an Intel 8088 processor in it running a modified version of BSD unix?
I have heard the two rovers up there now have something like 80286 processors
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trey Warren</div><div class="ubbcode-body">biggest Ive seen is like 17 and thats quite large. </div></div>
Thats what SHE said!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trey Warren</div><div class="ubbcode-body">biggest Ive seen is like 17 and thats quite large. </div></div>
Thats what SHE said!
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Well, you might not believe what the computers which run the space shuttle run on. Or maybe you would...
Well, you might not believe what the computers which run the space shuttle run on. Or maybe you would...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A friend of mine has been in the computer business as long as there has <span style="font-style: italic">been</span> a computer business - and I don't mean personal computers, either, as he was one of the original columnists for Byte magazine. (Yeah, I'm dating myself. I'm old.)
He says that an Apple is a great system as long as the software will do exactly what you want to do. If so, doing things with an Apple is simple.
But, he says, a Microsoft system can be made to do anything.
When Jason said, "Macs are for people who can't figure out how to make a PC run right," he was right on the money.
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You can make a Mac do anything you like too, it just might be a little less mainstream than the Win stuff. There are two kinds of Apple users, the extreme novice and the extreme expert. Most of the great old workstation producers have essentially given up on UNIX workstations these days. A MacPro with OS-X is tightly integrated high-quality hardware married to a BSD based operating system. That makes it pretty much the closest thing to a true workstation out there with any sort of readily available retail support structure.
I've been using, professionally, PC's since QDOS and I never once had an urge to switch to Apple. Until a couple of years ago when OS-X matured and 8-core Intel workstations supporting many GB of RAM came out and 64-bit XP was dead in the water and Vista was Win98 all over again. With an Apple running fusion I could run multiple XP virtual machines on 1 keyboard/mouse/monitor-stack with copy/paste between them (VMware's Win Workstation was and still is not nearly as mature as Fusion,) completely decommission my UNIX workstation running in the corner, and as icing on the cake benefit from all the pretty look/feel advantages of the Mac over XP. Since snow-leopard came out I can now connect to multiple Exchange servers from a single client (something Outlook still can't do) and for the last year or so I've found that most of the time my XP virtual machines stay suspended and I tend to work almost exclusively off of OS-X except when using Visual Studio or testing the output thereof. This realization (and especially that multiple Exchange server thing) made me buy a MacBook Pro to replace my XP laptop when it finally started getting flaky on me a couple months ago. Apples have their advantages and software will ALWAYS do whatever you want, so long as you accept that in the end you may have to write it yourself.
But that's not to say that everyone should buy a Mac. Most people will not use theirs or see the same advantages as I do and so it comes down to what will you use it for and what sort of consumer experience do you prefer. Computers aren't sold to computer people any more. Apple or PC, they're all marketed at lay-people. The difference is that Apples are marketed to the population that is GLAD they aren't computer people and PC's are marketed to the population that wants to BELIEVE they are computer people (and this includes the vast majority of IT staff.) Computer people are tired of the horseshit on both sides, know what they want already and build it from what they find available on the market.
Personally, for most users I find Windows machines to be easiest to understand and get the most functionality out of if for no other reason than they are the most mainstream and so it will be easiest to find a solution someone else has prepackaged for you. At the functionally subsidized prices a Windows box sells for, it's hard to say no to that kind of value. For grandmothers and the like, who really just want a web browser, some basic email, and a gentle voice to tell them where to click, low-end Apples might be worth the significant premium over what a similarly capable Windows machine would cost just because out of the box an Apple has a nice little fence put up around the sandbox to keep the user from wondering off and getting hit by a car.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A friend of mine has been in the computer business as long as there has <span style="font-style: italic">been</span> a computer business - and I don't mean personal computers, either, as he was one of the original columnists for Byte magazine. (Yeah, I'm dating myself. I'm old.)
He says that an Apple is a great system as long as the software will do exactly what you want to do. If so, doing things with an Apple is simple.
But, he says, a Microsoft system can be made to do anything.
When Jason said, "Macs are for people who can't figure out how to make a PC run right," he was right on the money.
</div></div>
You can make a Mac do anything you like too, it just might be a little less mainstream than the Win stuff. There are two kinds of Apple users, the extreme novice and the extreme expert. Most of the great old workstation producers have essentially given up on UNIX workstations these days. A MacPro with OS-X is tightly integrated high-quality hardware married to a BSD based operating system. That makes it pretty much the closest thing to a true workstation out there with any sort of readily available retail support structure.
I've been using, professionally, PC's since QDOS and I never once had an urge to switch to Apple. Until a couple of years ago when OS-X matured and 8-core Intel workstations supporting many GB of RAM came out and 64-bit XP was dead in the water and Vista was Win98 all over again. With an Apple running fusion I could run multiple XP virtual machines on 1 keyboard/mouse/monitor-stack with copy/paste between them (VMware's Win Workstation was and still is not nearly as mature as Fusion,) completely decommission my UNIX workstation running in the corner, and as icing on the cake benefit from all the pretty look/feel advantages of the Mac over XP. Since snow-leopard came out I can now connect to multiple Exchange servers from a single client (something Outlook still can't do) and for the last year or so I've found that most of the time my XP virtual machines stay suspended and I tend to work almost exclusively off of OS-X except when using Visual Studio or testing the output thereof. This realization (and especially that multiple Exchange server thing) made me buy a MacBook Pro to replace my XP laptop when it finally started getting flaky on me a couple months ago. Apples have their advantages and software will ALWAYS do whatever you want, so long as you accept that in the end you may have to write it yourself.
But that's not to say that everyone should buy a Mac. Most people will not use theirs or see the same advantages as I do and so it comes down to what will you use it for and what sort of consumer experience do you prefer. Computers aren't sold to computer people any more. Apple or PC, they're all marketed at lay-people. The difference is that Apples are marketed to the population that is GLAD they aren't computer people and PC's are marketed to the population that wants to BELIEVE they are computer people (and this includes the vast majority of IT staff.) Computer people are tired of the horseshit on both sides, know what they want already and build it from what they find available on the market.
Personally, for most users I find Windows machines to be easiest to understand and get the most functionality out of if for no other reason than they are the most mainstream and so it will be easiest to find a solution someone else has prepackaged for you. At the functionally subsidized prices a Windows box sells for, it's hard to say no to that kind of value. For grandmothers and the like, who really just want a web browser, some basic email, and a gentle voice to tell them where to click, low-end Apples might be worth the significant premium over what a similarly capable Windows machine would cost just because out of the box an Apple has a nice little fence put up around the sandbox to keep the user from wondering off and getting hit by a car.
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All that said, though, giant laptops are a fools errand, IMHO. The point of a laptop is to be portable. The bigger it is, the less portable it is. Get a modest size that you can carry with you and then when you're at home hook it up to a monitor and regular keyboard for the ergonomic advantages. Just because it is big does not mean that the keyboard it going to be comfortable to use for extended periods, and a huge laptop is NOT going to be comfortable to use on either your lap or a desk. The position of keyboard to monitor and the required thickness of the monitor over the desk just makes that impossible.
Do you want a large monitor because you want to fit a lot of text on a screen, or do you want a large monitor because you have difficulty seeing, or do you want a large monitor because you want Sasha Grey's tits to be life size? Because not all large monitors are the same or fill the same purpose.
All that said, though, giant laptops are a fools errand, IMHO. The point of a laptop is to be portable. The bigger it is, the less portable it is. Get a modest size that you can carry with you and then when you're at home hook it up to a monitor and regular keyboard for the ergonomic advantages. Just because it is big does not mean that the keyboard it going to be comfortable to use for extended periods, and a huge laptop is NOT going to be comfortable to use on either your lap or a desk. The position of keyboard to monitor and the required thickness of the monitor over the desk just makes that impossible.
Do you want a large monitor because you want to fit a lot of text on a screen, or do you want a large monitor because you have difficulty seeing, or do you want a large monitor because you want Sasha Grey's tits to be life size? Because not all large monitors are the same or fill the same purpose.
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HOLY SHIT this thread blew up HAHA. thanks for all the input guys. yeah I was just going to use it for beginning writing a novel. something I could take with me anywhere.
HOLY SHIT this thread blew up HAHA. thanks for all the input guys. yeah I was just going to use it for beginning writing a novel. something I could take with me anywhere.
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yeah I can see that point. I was more specifically thinking of taking it to the local starbucks, etc and sitting it on a table more than anything else.
yeah I can see that point. I was more specifically thinking of taking it to the local starbucks, etc and sitting it on a table more than anything else.
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I bought a 14.1" HP with an AMD CPU (eventually burned out). Had it hooked up to a docking station, connected to speakers and a 22" monitor. Hook and unhook the computer from the docking station using a side connector. Even hooked it up to my 40" LCD HDTV. As lindy said, avoid AMD. Recently purchased a new 14.1" HP laptop with an intel i5-430M cpu (hope its better). You should look to see what fry's has on sale since you live in houston.
I bought a 14.1" HP with an AMD CPU (eventually burned out). Had it hooked up to a docking station, connected to speakers and a 22" monitor. Hook and unhook the computer from the docking station using a side connector. Even hooked it up to my 40" LCD HDTV. As lindy said, avoid AMD. Recently purchased a new 14.1" HP laptop with an intel i5-430M cpu (hope its better). You should look to see what fry's has on sale since you live in houston.
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Ok, I've read everything Lindy said 3 times now and I can't find anywhere he said to avoid AMD. I'm guessing that's because he knows there's absolutely nothing wrong with getting an AMD processor so long as you're not using 1 of a very few very specific and slightly arcane software packages that actually require an Intel processor.
I find it interesting that you blame AMD but apparently not HP for your laptop failing.
Ok, I've read everything Lindy said 3 times now and I can't find anywhere he said to avoid AMD. I'm guessing that's because he knows there's absolutely nothing wrong with getting an AMD processor so long as you're not using 1 of a very few very specific and slightly arcane software packages that actually require an Intel processor.
I find it interesting that you blame AMD but apparently not HP for your laptop failing.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...and I can't find anywhere he said to avoid AMD.</div></div>
That's because I didn't say that.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...and I can't find anywhere he said to avoid AMD.</div></div>
That's because I didn't say that.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ratbert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I find it interesting that you blame AMD but apparently not HP for your laptop failing.
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I blame HP for mine failing. My Brother blames HP for his failing. Both just weeks after the warranty ran out...huh.
I am going back to Dell, I have personally had the best luck with their stuff. As to the Apple vs. PC crap...I am quite happy buying 3 or 4 PCs to one Apple. I have personally yet to get a virus on any of our PCs. Hardware is hardware and it will eventually fail. How many people do you see running around with 4 year old macs? Even if you have to buy one PC a year, you are still ahead. I have used a mac and hated it...nothing against its functionality, I just did not find it user friendlly (but I am used to Windows type interfaces).
To the average user, the only thing an Apple is good for is writing viruses for PCs.
As for the screen size, I would say that a 17 inch is the absolute biggest laptop that one could stand to carry around. The only reason it is even tolerable is because they have full keyboards with number pads.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ratbert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I find it interesting that you blame AMD but apparently not HP for your laptop failing.
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I blame HP for mine failing. My Brother blames HP for his failing. Both just weeks after the warranty ran out...huh.
I am going back to Dell, I have personally had the best luck with their stuff. As to the Apple vs. PC crap...I am quite happy buying 3 or 4 PCs to one Apple. I have personally yet to get a virus on any of our PCs. Hardware is hardware and it will eventually fail. How many people do you see running around with 4 year old macs? Even if you have to buy one PC a year, you are still ahead. I have used a mac and hated it...nothing against its functionality, I just did not find it user friendlly (but I am used to Windows type interfaces).
To the average user, the only thing an Apple is good for is writing viruses for PCs.
As for the screen size, I would say that a 17 inch is the absolute biggest laptop that one could stand to carry around. The only reason it is even tolerable is because they have full keyboards with number pads.
