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Gibbs handled this well.

Maggot

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    And the Russian was way out of line. He's right though, if we want to stop this we may have to restrict some freedoms. Guess we're just not ready to do that yet. It would be nice if we could find another way, but barring a miracle, more events like this, and we will feel the bootheel.

    Mods, if this goes politico, please remove.

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    Thought he handled it well too Goldie.

    It always interests me to see how our "superiors" seem to believe they have put one over on us. I kind of hoped Gibbs would have put one hand over his mouth and sarcastically replied with an "Oooh, aren't we clever!"...

    Now perhaps the notion of the ironic nature of American democracy, coupled with our traditions of self reliance, and self defense, might have been emphasized had Gibbs punctuated his patient response and rebuttal by concluding the press briefing by beating the hell out of that arrogant Russian douchebag.

    Might have nullified his point though.
     
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    Well maybe the freedoms they will have to be adjusted are the one's that let obviously deranged people slip through the system. Seems like institutions and LE are for some reason unable to force people who exhibit these behaviours to under go evaluation. Maybe then some of these people are taken out of circulation.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: canman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well maybe the freedoms they will have to be adjusted are the one's that let obviously deranged people slip through the system. Seems like institutions and LE are for some reason unable to force people who exhibit these behaviours to under go evaluation. Maybe then some of these people are taken out of circulation. </div></div>

    Seems like thats part of the freedom....if LE could just pick you up for being odd, how long would people like me or 'shankster be loose......and we're not dangerous, now are we
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goldie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: canman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well maybe the freedoms they will have to be adjusted are the one's that let obviously deranged people slip through the system. Seems like institutions and LE are for some reason unable to force people who exhibit these behaviours to under go evaluation. Maybe then some of these people are taken out of circulation. </div></div>

    Seems like thats part of the freedom....if LE could just pick you up for being odd, how long would people like me or 'shankster be loose......and we're not dangerous, now are we
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    </div></div>There is a difference between odd and multaple contacts with LE because you are acting in a threating manner to many people. I know what you are saying and I don't know where to draw the line, but the subject has to be discussed.
     
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    Wow! That Russians comments hold a lot of weight coming from a country that gasses theaters full of hundreds of hostages with a toxic sleeping gas and executed anybody who dared speak up against a dictator who "restricted freedoms in the name of the people". "Russia the prison state where human life holds no value."
     
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    I have to disagree with Mr. Gibbs on the one point about violence is never an option, it is indeed a viable and legitimate option, but it is the absolute last option taken only when there is nothing else, and never to be considered lighly.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: canman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    There is a difference between odd and multaple contacts with LE because you are acting in a threating manner to many people. I know what you are saying and I don't know where to draw the line, but the subject has to be discussed. </div></div>

    Operating under the assumption that every states operate similarly to IN, the line is drawn when someone poses a clear threat to themselves and/or someone else. We call it an immediate detention here in IN, taking someone into custody for a psychological evaluation and they can be held for up to 72 hours without any additional process.

    I was speaking about this issue a few days ago on another forum. Making the assumption that based on similar populations between where the shooting occurred and here in Indianapolis, they also have similar resources, immediate detentions are rarely useful. I talked a man down off of an interstate overpass a few years ago. He was thinking of jumping so I had him admitted for a psych evaluation. About four hours later I found him on the same overpass again. He had been released within two hours and was again considering jumping. I took him back a second time, not sure what the outcome was.

    It's a tricky thing to restrict a person's freedoms based on their mental stability (or lack thereof) until or unless they have committed a crime. Indiana closed a state mental hospital here in Indianapolis years ago due to lack of funding. They basically propped open the gates and let the patients go. Well maybe not that bad but close. Many of the patients ended up in staying in the immediate vicinity of the hospital and have become well known regulars to the officers. Lots of them on a first name basis with the officers and mental health professionals who see them when the officers take them in, only to be back out in a few hours.
     
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    Funny that Gibbs, one of the most pompous tools in the white house tool box, got something right...

    I remember hearing the natural call from the libs right after this happened to pass a bill banning firearms within so many feet of public assembly....

    I laugh.

    I'm sure if it were against the law to have a gun there, he woulda just went home.