Got my SCAR 17 S in

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After a weeks delay in shipping I got the SCAR in Yeasterday right after I got done working out and just before I had to got to work. So once I got home I stayed up late installing the trigger and the extended rail and the optics. Can barely wait to shoot it.
The only thing I did not like was how the gun feels cheap. I know plastics are the modern way to make a firearm. But it just feels different from what I am used to. Still excited to have it though.

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I also have Trijicon TR-24 in a Larue mount for it but one of the screw heads on the mount was stripped so I am going to have to get a friend of mine help me remove it so I can remove the scope and flip the mount around and mount it on the SCAR. This optic set up is for patrol and the TR024 will be for when I use the SCAR in three gun in TAC Heavy optics class. The irons will be for TAC Heavy Irons class. I know its not a true precision rifle but I am hoping for 1 to 1.5 MOA out of it.
Pat
 
Re: Got my SCAR 17 S in

You think the gun feels cheap? I thought that the plastic was of very good quality. Even better than my AI stock (not sure if that’s saying much). But I can see what you mean about plastic vs good ol’ fashioned quality metal guns

Do you worry about the magazine costs/availability? I hear they are pretty scares and expensive
 
Re: Got my SCAR 17 S in

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SMS Burly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You think the gun feels cheap? I thought that the plastic was of very good quality. Even better than my AI stock (not sure if that’s saying much). But I can see what you mean about plastic vs good ol’ fashioned quality metal guns

Do you worry about the magazine costs/availability? I hear they are pretty scares and expensive
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The rifle came with 3 mags and I purchased a 5 pack of blemished mags for $258. That gives me 8 for now. Mags are starting to get easier to find now. The trigger before I replaced it was heavy. The Geisselle feels much better. I would have preferred if they made the 3g model for it but its still a good trigger it just has more pre travel than I would like. I plan on shooting it Sunday after an getting done with a IDPA match on my way home. I am hoping for some reasonable accuracy with match level reloads. I would be thrilled with 1 MOA. I do like how light the gun feels even with the optics and the extended rail its not bad. I need to get a scale to weigh it.
Pat
 
Re: Got my SCAR 17 S in

Its a LT-104 with no moa built in, I believe. Been a long time since I ordered it. It was on my Larue Stealth. If your right its a good thing Nightforce has a lot of adjustment. Lol
Pat
 
Re: Got my SCAR 17 S in

Shot my SCAR today. Was a great day no wind about 30 degrees out. The SCAR functioned nearly flawlessly. I did have it fail to lock back once. But no failures to feed or eject. Accuracy was about what I expected but not as good as I had hoped. I wanted 1 to 1.5 MOA but was ready to settle for 2 moa due to it having a light chrome lined barrel. I sighted the gun in with its irons at 50 yards, the side mounted red dot at 50 yards, The Trijicon TR 24 at 50 yards and the Nightforce 2.5-10x32 Low Velocity Reticle at 100 yards on the 100 yard mark. I used 2 factory loads that I am going to use for duty. The 155 grain Hornady TAP AMAX load for general duty to limit penetration. The other load I am going to carry is Hornady’s 165 grain TAP Barrier load. Which I will use for animal calls and for situations where you need more penetration like shooting in and around vehicles. I also fired 3 different handloads I had on hand from my bolt gun testing.
Here are the targets.
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After all the bench work I shot a department qualification so I can carry this at work. Since I am the firearms instructor I can qualify myself. (Honor system)
I dropped 3 points. I jerked one shot after reloading on the reload stage. The other two were pulled low on the walking and shooting stage. Overall about the same as my typical performance with a 5.56 AR.
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This was an easy .308 rifle to shoot but it was still a bit harder than my 5.56 patrol rifle due to the increased recoil. I need to find a good magazine coupler for this rifle. The reload was slow. The Geisselle trigger was absolutely fantastic like all my Geisselle AR triggers. It was easy to make good shots. I can only blame the 3 pulled shots on myself not the trigger or the gun.

I am happy the gun is light for what it is and handles well. Its reliable, and its accurate enough for what I need it to do. I also like the fact that my ball reload was shooting nearly as well as my reloads with match bullets. I do want to work with this gun to get my accuracy down to 1.5 moa. I think I can do it just need to find a load it likes. I plan on taking the SCAR to a local three gun match this coming Sunday. I will post the videos afterwards. I am happy with this gun. I just wish some different barrels would come out soon. (Praying for a 18 or 20 inch stainless medium contour barrel for three gun)

Below is one of my handloads compared to my log entry for my 20 inch Remington 700 Tactical.

Remington 700
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Load 168 grain Amax Federal cases trimmed to 2.05, Federal Primers, N140 42.3 grains.
Accuracy average .88
Chrono
Avg 2441
Spread 35
SD 16
Weather conditions 30 degrees no wind.

SCAR 17
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Load 168 grain Amax Federal cases trimmed to 2.05, Federal Primers, N140 42.3 grains.
Chrono
AVG 2263
Spread 51
SD 26
Avg group size from 4 5 shot groups 2.20 MOA

My Rifle LOG on the SCAR to date.
SCAR 17 Log
3-18-12
Round count used gun claimed 400. Added 160 Total 560 rounds.
Factory load 155 grain AMAX TAP
Chrono Data
Avg 2706
Spread 15
SD 8
Average accuracy of 5 5 shot groups 1.84 inches

Factory load 165 grain TAP barrier load
Chrono
Avg 2552
Spread 21
SD 11
Average group size for 2 5 shot groups 1.84 inches

Hand load 168 grain AMAX 42 grains of N140 Federal cases and primers
Chrono
AVG 2263
Spread 51
SD 26
Avg group size from 4 5 shot groups 2.20 MOA

Handload 43.6 grains of H335 147 grain Winchester FMJ CCI Primers Federal cases Lee crimp die used.
Chrono
AVG 2577
Spread 12
SD 7
AVG group size 2 5 shot groups 2.22 moa
 
Re: Got my SCAR 17 S in

Did some more shooting. I had a grab bag of ammo left over from testing some reloads in my Remington 700, so I decided to shoot the stuff up in my SCAR to see if it liked any of them. I found I need to reload some more 178 grain AMAX bullets because they showed a lot of potential. Wish I had enough ammo with me today to test them proper. (at least 5 5 shot groups is my standard) Found out my SCAR does not like 155 grain Sierra Parma match, but then again neither did my bolt gun. I really like this gun. I am going to load up a 100 178 grain AMAX bullets tonight for shooting tomorrow. I also got a new pistol grip in for my rifle after I took these pics so I will take some more. I got an ergo grip as I hate the standard GI grip.
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Re: Got my SCAR 17 S in

Buddy picked up a SCAR 17- with 147gr mil surp we saw about a 4" spread- M118 took it down to about 3", M852 and my M118LR clone loads printed around 2" each.

Buddy was mildly upset to not see it get 1" or under, but for a battle rifle- it's about what I would expect for a modern 7.62 battle rifle.
 
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I also had shit results with 155's out of a gas gun..they dont like jump. Also you might consider trying without that brake..I tried the 308 FCS brake on a couple of guns and had terrible grouping but shot great when I took it off.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sharfshutze</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I also had shit results with 155's out of a gas gun..they dont like jump. Also you might consider trying without that brake..I tried the 308 FCS brake on a couple of guns and had terrible grouping but shot great when I took it off. </div></div>

I've also read something about this on FNforum, although I can't confirm as I switched to a surefire brake for my cans as soon as I got the gun.
 
Re: Got my SCAR 17 S in

Most of the information is in the pictures. I fired both my Remington 700 and my SCAR 17 today with a variety of loads. Here is the summary.
SCAR 17 Remington 700
178 grain AMAX load 1.66 2121 fps 1.21 2226 fps +105 Rem -.45 moa
168 grain AMAX load 1.73 2318 fps .88 2451 fps +133 Rem -.85 moa
147 grain FMJ 2.51 2620 fps 1.89 2703 fps +83 Rem -.62 moa
155 grain Hornady TAP 1.84 2706 fps 1.10 2792 fps +86 Rem -.74 moa

Overall accuracy SCAR 1.94 Remington 1.27
Velocity gain for Remington 101 fps (20 inch bolt vs 16 inch auto)

The Remington has shot .55 moa in the past with 169 grain Sierra’s and I need to get some more of those bullets and try them in the SCAR as well. Overall I like both guns a lot. The Reminton showed great potential with the 178 grain bullets by putting 4 shots into nearly 1 hole then a flyer would open up the group. Before when I tested this load it averaged .90 in the Reminton (178 grain AMAX). The SCAR likes this bullet the best of anything so far.

Remington
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SCAR 17
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