Gotta wonder why they gave it up

308pirate

308pirate

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    • Apr 25, 2017
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    #1
    So, this dude and chick from Honolulu set off to Tahiti in what looks like a good sized sailboat, only to end up "adrift" for several weeks due to "engine failure", then can't call for help because they're not "in range" of any ship or shore station.......

    Knowing more than a little about such things, I have several questions
    1. Why does an engine failure render a SAILboat adrift? Their spars and rigging looks pretty fucking sat to me. USE them. Even if caught in the doldrums, the calm doesn't last forever.
    2. A HF/SSB radio can reach thousands of miles and was/is the standard in long range ship-to-shore communications for the better part of a century. Did they intend to cross the pacific without one?


     
    #3
    saw this on the news and was laughing my ass off.....nothing but a couple of "credit card captains"

    dumbasses go out ans buy a sailboat...abd because it had a motor on it, they never learned to fucking sail....

    apparently no one told them that the motor is only intended to get you in and out of the docks to get to open water.....where you switch to the fucking sail.

    and regsrding the radio....safe to say if they never learned to sail....they never learned how to use the radio either
     
    #6
    Maggot said:
    Thats all beyond my pay grade but I hit the blonde.
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    When I was working in Vancouver B.C, I worked with an older guy, let's just call him "Donnie". He had a great sense of humor and was always cracking jokes. He had a thing for the (promiscuous) gal in accounting. He always used to say "I'd bang her, 'cept then I'd have to talk to her". Mag; I'm thinkin' the same might apply here (?.....).
     
    #7
    mcameron said:
    saw this on the news and was laughing my ass off.....nothing but a couple of "credit card captains"

    dumbasses go out ans buy a sailboat...abd because it had a motor on it, they never learned to fucking sail....

    apparently no one told them that the motor is only intended to get you in and out of the docks to get to open water.....where you switch to the fucking sail.

    and regsrding the radio....safe to say if they never learned to sail....they never learned how to use the radio either
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    As soon as I saw the amount of scunge on the hull, I knew pretty much everything I needed to know........

    And, the fenders were down. For what ? When the Lusitania came along side ? They were in the middle of the Pacific fucking Ocean.
     
    #8
    He had enough to buy a crappy center cockpit and add some solar panels and a wind generator but couldn't pay for a lesson on how to deploy the main? Even if you lose all your sails, string up a pair or pants. Something catching air is better than nothing.
     
    #11
    My guess was the fenders had never been stowed from the time they left the dock and they had been that way ever since.......they probably had scunge all over the bottom of them too. And, had they been stowed up until the point the Navy showed up, I doubt they were smart enough to put 'em down. And, I'd further surmise that the statement about engine failure was BS. Anyone shove a stick into the fuel tank and see if it came out dry ?
     
    #12
    i saw this on the news this morning. more than a few things raised flags for me. sails being one thing. they saying they were out of food and only lived on rice....yet they both looked plenty chunky to me. and energtic. AND the dogs looked pretty lively, too.

    then the one dumb cunt says the sharks were after them...so they had to hide in the hull and be quiet, cause the sharks could hear them and were hunting them.

    what in the actual fuck? i got $20 that says this turns out to be a hoax.
     
    #13
    myronman3 said:
    i saw this on the news this morning. more than a few things raised flags for me. sails being one thing. they saying they were out of food and only lived on rice....yet they both looked plenty chunky to me. and energtic. AND the dogs looked pretty lively, too.

    then the one dumb cunt says the sharks were after them...so they had to hide in the hull and be quiet, cause the sharks could hear them and were hunting them.

    what in the actual fuck? i got $20 that says this turns out to be a hoax.
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    The whole thing raises a lot of red flags. I wonder if anyone from the FBI Honolulu Field Office or Coast Guard Marine Safety Office is thinking the same WTF that any mariner with common sense is......
     
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    #16
    they also said many ships ignored them. now i have never been on the ocean, but from my understanding, that seems bizarre. hell, on the lakes up here, lpeople take things pretty seriously. i gotta believe it is even more so on the oceans.

    i think the navy should have caught and released them.
     
    #18
    Read that their mast was broken but 5 months and death would seem plenty of time and motivation to jury rig something.

    Story seems like it still needs to be told.
     
    #19
    pmclaine said:
    Read that their mast was broken but 5 months and death would seem plenty of time and motivation to jury rig something.

    Story seems like it still needs to be told.
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    That mast stands pretty good. I see nothing obvious wrong with it. And why is their mainsail nicely flaked over the boom? It doesn't get that way on its own, they laid it down on purpose.

    This is fishy as fuck

    ETA: and why is their jib completely furled?
     
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    #20
    Even bareboat course material covers how to rig up some kind of sail with the remaining stub of a mast. Either these people were really that stupid or there's something else going on here.
     
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    #21
    I figured it out...

    Insurance scam. Guy figured, 'everyone will know I killed her if she doesn't make it back... but if we get stranded at sea and she starves to death, well, who can prove that was planned?'

    A great plot, foiled by those meddling pesky coasties.
     
    #22
    I don't know shit about sailing a boat, but I would have had some kind of fabric in the air. I see no masts broken beyond being able to hoist some kind of a sail into the air.
    This whole thing just reeks of a Go Fund Me page to collect many thousands of $$$ from people so STUPID as to buy into this shit.
    After 5 months at sea and they are in such good shape to be able to wave to their rescuers? and the dogs running around? Hell I would have eaten the dogs months ago.
    I call total Bullshit on this, but watch the $$$ roll in on Go Fund Me as I am a totally Stupid Snowflake and didn't have a clue that sailboats have sails that need to be deployed as to getting underway and what do you mean that the engine won't run without fuel?
    Total BULLSHIT and I hope they are prosecuted for FRAUD.
    Just my thoughts and I know nothing. If they did in fact take off knowing nothing about how to do it, they need to be prosecuted for Felony STUPID and endangering animals that have more sense than them. FM.
     
    #23
    308pirate said:
    That mast stands pretty good. I see nothing obvious wrong with it. And why is their mainsail nicely flaked over the boom? It doesn't get that way on its own, they laid it down on purpose.

    This is fishy as fuck

    ETA: and why is their jib completely furled?
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    The only thing I'm thinking is the mast is internally rigged and with the lines fouled inside they were too dumb to rerig it.

    So easy a Marine could do it.

    Darwin missed two easy kills or someone is pulling our leg.
     
    #27
    If you half ass know what you are doing, how long does it take to sail from Hawaii to Tahiti? The article I read said they had an entire year’s worth of food aboard, in addition to a water purifier (are desalinizationunits small enough for a boat?). Adrift for 4 months? I don’t know fuck-all about sailing, but I bet I could learn something in 4 months of intensive on the job training...
     
    #30
    pmclaine said:
    The only thing I'm thinking is the mast is internally rigged and with the lines fouled inside they were too dumb to rerig it.

    So easy a Marine could do it.

    Darwin missed two easy kills or someone is pulling our leg.
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    Even if it is an in mast furling main, which it doesn't appear to be, he still has the main out and lashed to the boom. Even if the main halyard breaks he can still use the jib halyard to haul it up.
     
    #31
    mcameron said:
    From the looks of them....Ide imagne they were eating more clam than anything
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    The crew of the whaler Essex made the reverse trip of these two in an open top harpoon boat with rigged sail after a leviathan stove the bow of their ship.

    In an odd coincidence those men survived by going down, so to speak, on each other also.

     
    #32
    Keel Haul said:
    Even if it is an in mast furling main, which it doesn't appear to be, he still has the main out and lashed to the boom. Even if the main halyard breaks he can still use the jib halyard to haul it up.
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    Man thats hate speech if you keep using the male pronoun......even if appropriate.
     
    #39
    hlee said:
    If you half ass know what you are doing, how long does it take to sail from Hawaii to Tahiti? The article I read said they had an entire year’s worth of food aboard, in addition to a water purifier (are desalinizationunits small enough for a boat?). Adrift for 4 months? I don’t know fuck-all about sailing, but I bet I could learn something in 4 months of intensive on the job training...
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    big no shitter there, i would be ready for the americas cup in less time
     
    #41
    So much bullshit I wanna cry. All of them looked in great health, even fat. There is no way they planned on carrying 5 months of water. The only options here are they were either resupplied or had a water maker. And to make water you need power. Not that they said it, but I would not believe for one second that they built their own distiller. The fucking doldrums??? And "veteran" sailors at that!? I have been through those same doldrums several times and you don't get stuck for days or weeks, much less months.

    Even if they had a water source, as for all of their dry goods, especially the rice, how did they cook it? They likely had an electric stove. And for experienced sailors out there, who would provision for a year when the trip was for 30 days? Maybe they did, but jeez.

    The cockpit got flooded and affected the engine? I am sure it is a self-bailing cockpit and could handle more than just a strong downpour, and to overtake the ignition the bilge pump(s) would have to have been out (battery issues?), they would have been ignoring the bilge to begin with in a severe storm, and surely they had a hand pump. This presents a whole string of issues related to preparedness and maintenance by supposedly salty veterans of the sea, but mostly to credibility.

    I see nothing wrong with the rigging. I have personally sailed with rigging completely beat to shit and torn sails. I have seen other sailors make way with broken and fabricated masts. I am curious how the hull became fouled like it is.
     
    #42
    Someone said it above...going for the Ellen Carpetmuncher show and the book deal that follows. "How wWe Survived..."
     
    #43
    MtnCreek said:
    Damn Yote. You turned her dyke?
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    Eh well.. she pissed me off one night so bad it made me forget paps old rule when I wanted to make her jealous - "dont go giving no roses to no black girls". Sorry daddy, heartless gals like that only know what they have when theyre about to lose it and there wasnt none a my own kind in the vicinity that were up to snuff so.. yeah, reckon that was her boiling point. But thats all right, no great loss to my fellow fellas I assure yall she was definition of heartless, and somehow the clingiest creature in existence, all at once..
     
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