Rifle Scopes Green Redfield Accurange
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Re: Green Redfield Accurange
Are accuranges worth anything? I seriously have no idea, have a couple old ones I inherited.
Are accuranges worth anything? I seriously have no idea, have a couple old ones I inherited.
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
The Green ones maybe $3000, I suppose we will see, they only made about 700 and a lot of those did not survive, satin accuranges were also used on the original USMC M4. A gloss accurange with the correct crosshairs is worth a bit.
The Green ones maybe $3000, I suppose we will see, they only made about 700 and a lot of those did not survive, satin accuranges were also used on the original USMC M4. A gloss accurange with the correct crosshairs is worth a bit.
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
Which crosshairs are worth something? I have one that has a wierd rangefinding reticle, not entirely sure how the hell to use it to be quite honest.
http://www.fototime.com/996534C3A394761/standard.jpg
Looks like this, has a elevation knob with yards on it. Prolly should start a thread asking about it instead of stealing yours
. Carry on.
Which crosshairs are worth something? I have one that has a wierd rangefinding reticle, not entirely sure how the hell to use it to be quite honest.
http://www.fototime.com/996534C3A394761/standard.jpg
Looks like this, has a elevation knob with yards on it. Prolly should start a thread asking about it instead of stealing yours
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
Marty,
I saw that one on bay as well. My eyes about popped out. I had to come back to the Hide to see if anyone was talking about it. What are the chances of finding an original anodized green accurange for sale anywhere. Much less, on there!!
I expect it to end very very high. Man, if I only had the money.
What a gem.
On a seperate note, idahoshooter, those are the correct crosshairs. I recommend picking up a copy of "The One Round War" by Peter Senich.
He goes in depth about the correct scopes and how the rangefinding works.
PS... if your scope has tall turrents for elevation, then its not the same kind used for the M40s, but the crosshairs are.
Marty,
I saw that one on bay as well. My eyes about popped out. I had to come back to the Hide to see if anyone was talking about it. What are the chances of finding an original anodized green accurange for sale anywhere. Much less, on there!!
I expect it to end very very high. Man, if I only had the money.
What a gem.
On a seperate note, idahoshooter, those are the correct crosshairs. I recommend picking up a copy of "The One Round War" by Peter Senich.
He goes in depth about the correct scopes and how the rangefinding works.
PS... if your scope has tall turrents for elevation, then its not the same kind used for the M40s, but the crosshairs are.
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
It doesnt have a tall turret as I remember, just a normal sized knob that has yards marked on it. I distinctly remember it just having yardage markings and not clicks. Im trying to find a phot of one similar on the net but havnt found one. Id post pictures but its at home in the safe
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It doesnt have a tall turret as I remember, just a normal sized knob that has yards marked on it. I distinctly remember it just having yardage markings and not clicks. Im trying to find a phot of one similar on the net but havnt found one. Id post pictures but its at home in the safe
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWFA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We're the current high bidder on it.
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That means don't waste your time bidding... LOL
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWFA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We're the current high bidder on it.
That means don't waste your time bidding... LOL
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
Idaho does your scope have this style adjustments ? I picked this one up on Egay about 3 days before the green anodized one was listed. $231 to the front door
Idaho does your scope have this style adjustments ? I picked this one up on Egay about 3 days before the green anodized one was listed. $231 to the front door
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
Nope, knobs a bit bigger than that with yardage marks on it. Exposed knob. Doesnt look like the tall ones Ive found pictures of with lines and clicks, just yardage marks. As soon as I go home Ill get pictures of it.
Nope, knobs a bit bigger than that with yardage marks on it. Exposed knob. Doesnt look like the tall ones Ive found pictures of with lines and clicks, just yardage marks. As soon as I go home Ill get pictures of it.
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
whitetailnut, that is a fantastic price on a commercial gloss version 1st generation.
Great score.
whitetailnut, that is a fantastic price on a commercial gloss version 1st generation.
Great score.
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
NC, I was amazed it went for what it did. I've been flirting with the idea of building a M40. I figure I'd try and snag the hardest to find parts first. That way it should get easier as I go! I had been checking ebay religously every couple days for 6 months hoping to find one I could afford.
http://cgi.ebay.com/redfield-scope-3x9-w...=item335a6848d4
NC, I was amazed it went for what it did. I've been flirting with the idea of building a M40. I figure I'd try and snag the hardest to find parts first. That way it should get easier as I go! I had been checking ebay religously every couple days for 6 months hoping to find one I could afford.
http://cgi.ebay.com/redfield-scope-3x9-w...=item335a6848d4
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
wtnut, I agree about going after the hardest to find pieces first. I did the same thing when working on my M40 project before money got tight.
I think the average price for a commercial 1st gen (gloss) like yours is $600 due to their rarity. To pick one up for 2 is nuts.
Congrats on finding it.
wtnut, I agree about going after the hardest to find pieces first. I did the same thing when working on my M40 project before money got tight.
I think the average price for a commercial 1st gen (gloss) like yours is $600 due to their rarity. To pick one up for 2 is nuts.
Congrats on finding it.
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
So, which of you guys is going to win himself that green one today??
So, which of you guys is going to win himself that green one today??
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
We've got a pretty ridiculous amount bid on it right now.
We are trying to persuade Leupold to make a replica now that they own the Redfield name. They made a green Leupold 3-9x40 (sold exclusively through us) marked USMC M40 a few years ago.
Having a real one in hand would be very helpful in this endeavor.
We've got a pretty ridiculous amount bid on it right now.
We are trying to persuade Leupold to make a replica now that they own the Redfield name. They made a green Leupold 3-9x40 (sold exclusively through us) marked USMC M40 a few years ago.
Having a real one in hand would be very helpful in this endeavor.
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: idahoshooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which crosshairs are worth something? I have one that has a wierd rangefinding reticle, not entirely sure how the hell to use it to be quite honest.
http://www.fototime.com/996534C3A394761/standard.jpg
Looks like this, has a elevation knob with yards on it. Prolly should start a thread asking about it instead of stealing yours
. Carry on. </div></div>
Well, piss! I saw one badly used down at the local Fun Shop a few months ago and had no idea that even the black gloss commercial ones were worth more than $100!
It was actually in about the same shape as the one pictured in this thread.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: idahoshooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which crosshairs are worth something? I have one that has a wierd rangefinding reticle, not entirely sure how the hell to use it to be quite honest.
http://www.fototime.com/996534C3A394761/standard.jpg
Looks like this, has a elevation knob with yards on it. Prolly should start a thread asking about it instead of stealing yours
Well, piss! I saw one badly used down at the local Fun Shop a few months ago and had no idea that even the black gloss commercial ones were worth more than $100!
It was actually in about the same shape as the one pictured in this thread.
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
We might be bailing off this green one, can't get the seller to answer questions in regards to authenticity.
Some concerns have been brought up about the tube not being anodized.
We might be bailing off this green one, can't get the seller to answer questions in regards to authenticity.
Some concerns have been brought up about the tube not being anodized.
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
Just looking at all the different colors on the Scope leads me to think its authentic. There was a problem with the anodizing fading on the tubes. Looking at this scope and comparing to Mahinney's rifle and other green accuranges I have seen pictures of, it certainly looks right.
Just looking at all the different colors on the Scope leads me to think its authentic. There was a problem with the anodizing fading on the tubes. Looking at this scope and comparing to Mahinney's rifle and other green accuranges I have seen pictures of, it certainly looks right.
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWFA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Some concerns have been brought up about the tube not being anodized. </div></div>
Some legit concerns...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWFA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Some concerns have been brought up about the tube not being anodized. </div></div>
Some legit concerns...
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
This one looks really good, the OP sold it to a guy in Texas for $3,500.00
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=289722
We went ahead and bought this one today that mjf pointed out for $2,550.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160408837826&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Based on the comments and pictures on this thread we feel confident that it is legit. The obj and tube are different materials and took the anodizing differently and perserved it differently (seems logical).
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1289293#Post1289293
mjr,
Thank you very much, PM me your address and I'll send you a $100.00 Gift Certificate as a finders fee or if you need something now I'll just give you $100. off instantly.
This one looks really good, the OP sold it to a guy in Texas for $3,500.00
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=289722
We went ahead and bought this one today that mjf pointed out for $2,550.00
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160408837826&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Based on the comments and pictures on this thread we feel confident that it is legit. The obj and tube are different materials and took the anodizing differently and perserved it differently (seems logical).
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1289293#Post1289293
mjr,
Thank you very much, PM me your address and I'll send you a $100.00 Gift Certificate as a finders fee or if you need something now I'll just give you $100. off instantly.
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
Somebody re assembled a de-milled scope. That main tube isn't even close to correct. The Turret box is also wrong.
I've been wrong before though.
Cheers,
Doc
Somebody re assembled a de-milled scope. That main tube isn't even close to correct. The Turret box is also wrong.
I've been wrong before though.
Cheers,
Doc
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
That is one of the good things about eBay and PayPal, if it ain't right we get our money back.
The seller responded to all of our inquiries. He is a Marine and claims to have had it in his possesion since 1984 where he acquired it from another Marine who owed him money. At that time he did not know its significance and only recently discovered what it was after visiting the USMC museum.
His exact words when we asked where he got it:
I got this in 1984 from another Marine I was stationed with. He owed me some money and was unable to pay. So he gave me this scope for payment. I do not know where he got it. I didn't know what this was until I visited the Marine Corps Museum a month ago and saw this scope mounted on a static sniper rifle display from 1967.
His exact words when we asked about the tube:
The tube is a darker color of green than the front or rear.It appears to be annodized as the rest of the scope.I do not know why.I have had this for 26 years, getting this from another Marine at Camp Lejeune. I cannot provide any documentation to prove it is authentic, other than my research on the internet. It is an Redfield Accurange with a 1" tube annodized green, which was a first generation scope used on the m40. I hope this helps, Keith.
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I think the pictures are bad and in person it will look better and the tube will show some green (I hope). I can't imagine a Marine fabricating a story or a scope. If it is not legit it will be hard to prove he knew but we will return it and get a refund.
All in all for $2,500.00 it was worth the gamble. We'll take some better pictures and post them when we get recieve it.
Doc,
What about the turret box do you feel is not correct?
That is one of the good things about eBay and PayPal, if it ain't right we get our money back.
The seller responded to all of our inquiries. He is a Marine and claims to have had it in his possesion since 1984 where he acquired it from another Marine who owed him money. At that time he did not know its significance and only recently discovered what it was after visiting the USMC museum.
His exact words when we asked where he got it:
I got this in 1984 from another Marine I was stationed with. He owed me some money and was unable to pay. So he gave me this scope for payment. I do not know where he got it. I didn't know what this was until I visited the Marine Corps Museum a month ago and saw this scope mounted on a static sniper rifle display from 1967.
His exact words when we asked about the tube:
The tube is a darker color of green than the front or rear.It appears to be annodized as the rest of the scope.I do not know why.I have had this for 26 years, getting this from another Marine at Camp Lejeune. I cannot provide any documentation to prove it is authentic, other than my research on the internet. It is an Redfield Accurange with a 1" tube annodized green, which was a first generation scope used on the m40. I hope this helps, Keith.
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I think the pictures are bad and in person it will look better and the tube will show some green (I hope). I can't imagine a Marine fabricating a story or a scope. If it is not legit it will be hard to prove he knew but we will return it and get a refund.
All in all for $2,500.00 it was worth the gamble. We'll take some better pictures and post them when we get recieve it.
Doc,
What about the turret box do you feel is not correct?
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
By all accounts I can tell, its legit. Original Redfields are known for their aging colors. After 43 years the anodized finish fades at different rates.
Unlike the 2nd gens, the 1st gens were not constructed from a single seamless tube. The front housing unscrews right off the tube itself. Since its not from the same stock alloy it will take the anodizing process differently. Consistency with anodizing is tough to achieve a perfect match.
What was in 67' a close match, can be miles apart 43 years later.
By all accounts I can tell, its legit. Original Redfields are known for their aging colors. After 43 years the anodized finish fades at different rates.
Unlike the 2nd gens, the 1st gens were not constructed from a single seamless tube. The front housing unscrews right off the tube itself. Since its not from the same stock alloy it will take the anodizing process differently. Consistency with anodizing is tough to achieve a perfect match.
What was in 67' a close match, can be miles apart 43 years later.
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
It does not photograph very well. The tube does still have some green on it. The adjustment covers are the same color as the saddle in person but when photographed they look grey.
It came with a hand written letter explaining the story behind how he got it.
It does not photograph very well. The tube does still have some green on it. The adjustment covers are the same color as the saddle in person but when photographed they look grey.
It came with a hand written letter explaining the story behind how he got it.
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWFA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We've got a pretty ridiculous amount bid on it right now.
We are trying to persuade Leupold to make a replica now that they own the Redfield name. They made a green Leupold 3-9x40 (sold exclusively through us) marked USMC M40 a few years ago.
Having a real one in hand would be very helpful in this endeavor.
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I'm willing to buy 1 from you if you can make this happen
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWFA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We've got a pretty ridiculous amount bid on it right now.
We are trying to persuade Leupold to make a replica now that they own the Redfield name. They made a green Leupold 3-9x40 (sold exclusively through us) marked USMC M40 a few years ago.
Having a real one in hand would be very helpful in this endeavor.
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I'm willing to buy 1 from you if you can make this happen
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
BTW the funky reticle is called a tombstone reticle.... I settled for a Widefield for my build as there is no way I could afford one of these.... Shame, got the turn-in stock, 6 digit receiver, Schneider USMC contract barrel, the correct mount, the correct sling...... maybe one of these days the correct scope.... Nice snag SWFA!!!
BTW the funky reticle is called a tombstone reticle.... I settled for a Widefield for my build as there is no way I could afford one of these.... Shame, got the turn-in stock, 6 digit receiver, Schneider USMC contract barrel, the correct mount, the correct sling...... maybe one of these days the correct scope.... Nice snag SWFA!!!
Re: Green Redfield Accurange
I'll take one if you get these going . If Lupey made the outside look like NOS , but put a ranging reticial inside ( for 308 and 30-06 shooting 168's ). This would be a hot seller .
I might even do another M40 in 308 , just for hahahahahs .
PS: Get leupold to build these on the VX-III chassis not that new china crap they have been putting out as of late , yea, the rifleman line is crap .
I'll take one if you get these going . If Lupey made the outside look like NOS , but put a ranging reticial inside ( for 308 and 30-06 shooting 168's ). This would be a hot seller .
I might even do another M40 in 308 , just for hahahahahs .
PS: Get leupold to build these on the VX-III chassis not that new china crap they have been putting out as of late , yea, the rifleman line is crap .
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