Anyone tried loading there grendel with cfe 223 yet. I have read about people getting great velocity numbers and accuracy from this powder especially with the heavy bullets. Any input would be great almost ready to finish my build and looking to find some powders to try.
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Re: grendel cfe 223
I think people are getting great results with that powder I have a lb to try but I'm still waiting for my barrel
Check over on 65grendel.com. I think there is a long thread about that powder
I think people are getting great results with that powder I have a lb to try but I'm still waiting for my barrel
Check over on 65grendel.com. I think there is a long thread about that powder
Re: grendel cfe 223
Im using tac for the lighter bullets & 8208xbr for the heavier ones. Check out grendel.com for some great info as said above.
Im using tac for the lighter bullets & 8208xbr for the heavier ones. Check out grendel.com for some great info as said above.
Re: grendel cfe 223
im running 31.8 grains with a 123 amax in hornaday cases with cci 450 primer and getting 2724 ftps.
here is a whole list of bullet and charges.
www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?2804-More-Chrony-reports!!-((WARNING!))-lots-of-pics.
im running 31.8 grains with a 123 amax in hornaday cases with cci 450 primer and getting 2724 ftps.
here is a whole list of bullet and charges.
www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?2804-More-Chrony-reports!!-((WARNING!))-lots-of-pics.
Re: grendel cfe 223
Thanks for the info guys. I read through the linked post and it sounds like cfe 223 is adding an extra 100 fps. Sounds to good to be true. Has anyone tried the 140 grain bullets with cfe they seem to be getting a big boost near creedmoor speeds.
Thanks for the info guys. I read through the linked post and it sounds like cfe 223 is adding an extra 100 fps. Sounds to good to be true. Has anyone tried the 140 grain bullets with cfe they seem to be getting a big boost near creedmoor speeds.
Re: grendel cfe 223
Don't try to get creedmoor speeds. Creedmoor runs about 10gr more powder. That's why I built a creedmoor since im getting the run around on my Grendel barrel. The problem with the 140s is that when you seat them deep enough to fit in mag they eat up case capacity. I plan on sticking to 123s or less in the Grendel of I ever get the barrel.
Don't try to get creedmoor speeds. Creedmoor runs about 10gr more powder. That's why I built a creedmoor since im getting the run around on my Grendel barrel. The problem with the 140s is that when you seat them deep enough to fit in mag they eat up case capacity. I plan on sticking to 123s or less in the Grendel of I ever get the barrel.
Re: grendel cfe 223
CFE is good for velocity but has temperature sensitivity issues. 8208 is where the grendel is.
CFE is good for velocity but has temperature sensitivity issues. 8208 is where the grendel is.
Re: grendel cfe 223
I know I will never get creedmoor speeds but 2500+ fps with a 142 smk from a 24" barrel is impressive. If you put those numbers in a calculater you get less drift and more energy then the 123's. My only concern is what Azprc talks about and that's temp sensitivity. Minnesota gets hot and cold seasons and if there is a big swing in velocities from winter to summer cfe might not be worth it.
I know I will never get creedmoor speeds but 2500+ fps with a 142 smk from a 24" barrel is impressive. If you put those numbers in a calculater you get less drift and more energy then the 123's. My only concern is what Azprc talks about and that's temp sensitivity. Minnesota gets hot and cold seasons and if there is a big swing in velocities from winter to summer cfe might not be worth it.
Re: grendel cfe 223
seems that some guys have temp stability issues and others dont. I have shot in 60 deg through 85 degree and have not noticed any problems and that was in one day. My dopes didnt change all day. I was shooting to 1k with the same dope from morning to evening.
seems that some guys have temp stability issues and others dont. I have shot in 60 deg through 85 degree and have not noticed any problems and that was in one day. My dopes didnt change all day. I was shooting to 1k with the same dope from morning to evening.
Re: grendel cfe 223
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matthew314</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know I will never get creedmoor speeds but 2500+ fps with a 142 smk from a 24" barrel is impressive. If you put those numbers in a calculater you get less drift and more energy then the 123's. My only concern is what Azprc talks about and that's temp sensitivity. Minnesota gets hot and cold seasons and if there is a big swing in velocities from winter to summer cfe might not be worth it. </div></div>
Who is getting 2500 from a grendel with 142's? That is for the 123's out of the grendel. I am currently running the 108's at 2780 ish from a 20", the only thing the 123's do better is downrange energy.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matthew314</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know I will never get creedmoor speeds but 2500+ fps with a 142 smk from a 24" barrel is impressive. If you put those numbers in a calculater you get less drift and more energy then the 123's. My only concern is what Azprc talks about and that's temp sensitivity. Minnesota gets hot and cold seasons and if there is a big swing in velocities from winter to summer cfe might not be worth it. </div></div>
Who is getting 2500 from a grendel with 142's? That is for the 123's out of the grendel. I am currently running the 108's at 2780 ish from a 20", the only thing the 123's do better is downrange energy.
Re: grendel cfe 223
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Azprc</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matthew314</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know I will never get creedmoor speeds but 2500+ fps with a 142 smk from a 24" barrel is impressive. If you put those numbers in a calculater you get less drift and more energy then the 123's. My only concern is what Azprc talks about and that's temp sensitivity. Minnesota gets hot and cold seasons and if there is a big swing in velocities from winter to summer cfe might not be worth it. </div></div>
Who is getting 2500 from a grendel with 142's? That is for the 123's out of the grendel. I am currently running the 108's at 2780 ish from a 20", the only thing the 123's do better is downrange energy. </div></div>
Im getting 2724 out of the 123s. 2500 with a 140 is not out of tbe question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Azprc</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matthew314</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know I will never get creedmoor speeds but 2500+ fps with a 142 smk from a 24" barrel is impressive. If you put those numbers in a calculater you get less drift and more energy then the 123's. My only concern is what Azprc talks about and that's temp sensitivity. Minnesota gets hot and cold seasons and if there is a big swing in velocities from winter to summer cfe might not be worth it. </div></div>
Who is getting 2500 from a grendel with 142's? That is for the 123's out of the grendel. I am currently running the 108's at 2780 ish from a 20", the only thing the 123's do better is downrange energy. </div></div>
Im getting 2724 out of the 123s. 2500 with a 140 is not out of tbe question
Re: grendel cfe 223
If you hit the link above you will find lots of info on cfe and many other powders there is a pdf spread sheet that shows 2 separate powders that can get 2500+ fps from a 142 smk. It also has a few loads that will get 130 grainers moving at 2600+ fps. Oxn what barrel length and powder are you using to get those velocities.
If you hit the link above you will find lots of info on cfe and many other powders there is a pdf spread sheet that shows 2 separate powders that can get 2500+ fps from a 142 smk. It also has a few loads that will get 130 grainers moving at 2600+ fps. Oxn what barrel length and powder are you using to get those velocities.
Re: grendel cfe 223
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matthew314</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you hit the link above you will find lots of info on cfe and many other powders there is a pdf spread sheet that shows 2 separate powders that can get 2500+ fps from a 142 smk. It also has a few loads that will get 130 grainers moving at 2600+ fps. Oxn what barrel length and powder are you using to get those velocities. </div></div>
Im using cfe and a 24" barrel. I have hit 2750 but backed it down to the accuracy node
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matthew314</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you hit the link above you will find lots of info on cfe and many other powders there is a pdf spread sheet that shows 2 separate powders that can get 2500+ fps from a 142 smk. It also has a few loads that will get 130 grainers moving at 2600+ fps. Oxn what barrel length and powder are you using to get those velocities. </div></div>
Im using cfe and a 24" barrel. I have hit 2750 but backed it down to the accuracy node
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