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Suppressors griffen armament checkmate

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I have the qd version previous to the hybrid in the link. Its a nice can. I've no problem with them or their cans. They got some bad publicity but, their products are good.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Outsy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">all I have to say is ....."Front towards Arabs" and that alone will not allow me to purchase something from them. </div></div>

He's saying Griffin made cans for the sandbox with this inscribed on the muzzle cap. Given that we have citizens of Arab extraction in our armed services and Arab allies, some find this stupid, inappropriately bigoted, and counterproductive to our political aims.
Additionally, the welds looked untidy, though I an not qualified to say whether they were weak welds.
 
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I have held their cans. Poor construction quality. Welds look like they were done by a partially blind squirrel. They sounded ok but nothing that was breath taking like most of todays cans. The one I speak of is the 30cal can. That and the engraving is just a no go for a business.
 
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The can you're asking about is a mono core so the weld quality is a moot point. When all said and done, guys here are gonna slam them over the arab deal.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goin'Hot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The can you're asking about is a mono core so the weld quality is a moot point. When all said and done, guys here are gonna slam them over the arib deal. </div></div>

From what I have seen....... prove to me why I SHOULD consider them taking my money, when I could spend it with David at SHARK. At least he cares what his product looks like. The welds might be a "moot point" for you but for me it speaks as to the quality of the product underneath it. If you dont care about your welds how can you be certain he cared about the bore concentricity of the baffles? Would you like to pay for the can, wait 3 months, shoot it and watch it tear open from a baffle strike because of his lackadaisical construction?! Your neatness speaks volumes for your product and reputation.
 
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David has also sent cans out that are nowhere perfect on their external coatings. That's the first thing that people see. I don't make a big deal about it, I just put a cover on it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goin'Hot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The can you're asking about is a mono core so the weld quality is a moot point. When all said and done, guys here are gonna slam them over the arib deal. </div></div>

From what I have seen....... prove to me why I SHOULD consider them taking my money, when I could spend it with David at SHARK. At least he cares what his product looks like. The welds might be a "moot point" for you but for me it speaks as to the quality of the product underneath it. If you dont care about your welds how can you be certain he cared about the bore concentricity of the baffles? Would you like to pay for the can, wait 3 months, shoot it and watch it tear open from a baffle strike because of his lackadaisical construction?! Your neatness speaks volumes for your product and reputation. </div></div>


I agree how ever we are talking about a 22 can with no welds, i dont find their center fire suppressors attractive.

i can get this checkmate used for 150 or a yhm mite used for 150.

i would like to try the mono core can but some one told me the mite suppressor is pretty quiet so what do you all think ?

for 200 i can get a liberty shoofly should i go that rout instead ?
 
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The Tigershark I got from him was in perfect shape. I just looked over their website. Still not impressed with construction. I would need to test and eval.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black_ump</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goin'Hot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The can you're asking about is a mono core so the weld quality is a moot point. When all said and done, guys here are gonna slam them over the arib deal. </div></div>

From what I have seen....... prove to me why I SHOULD consider them taking my money, when I could spend it with David at SHARK. At least he cares what his product looks like. The welds might be a "moot point" for you but for me it speaks as to the quality of the product underneath it. If you dont care about your welds how can you be certain he cared about the bore concentricity of the baffles? Would you like to pay for the can, wait 3 months, shoot it and watch it tear open from a baffle strike because of his lackadaisical construction?! Your neatness speaks volumes for your product and reputation. </div></div>


I agree how ever we are talking about a 22 can with no welds, i dont find their center fire suppressors attractive.

i can get this checkmate used for 150 or a yhm mite used for 150.

i would like to try the mono core can but some one told me the mite suppressor is pretty quiet so what do you all think ?

for 200 i can get a liberty shoofly should i go that rout instead ? </div></div>

Why do you insist on paying for a used suppressor and a tax stamp?! 22 cans are worth nothing when used. Don't waste your time or tax money. Ever wonder why you rarely see suppressors up for sale? The resale on them is a fraction of what they were worth new.
 
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guys... no need to get into it i just need to know which of these three USED 22lr suppressors you would buy. they where used by silencer research llc for sound level testing and thats about it.

liberty shoofly 200
yhm mite 150
checkmate 150

of those 3 which is quietest ? and all around better built ?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black_ump</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goin'Hot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The can you're asking about is a mono core so the weld quality is a moot point. When all said and done, guys here are gonna slam them over the arib deal. </div></div>

From what I have seen....... prove to me why I SHOULD consider them taking my money, when I could spend it with David at SHARK. At least he cares what his product looks like. The welds might be a "moot point" for you but for me it speaks as to the quality of the product underneath it. If you dont care about your welds how can you be certain he cared about the bore concentricity of the baffles? Would you like to pay for the can, wait 3 months, shoot it and watch it tear open from a baffle strike because of his lackadaisical construction?! Your neatness speaks volumes for your product and reputation. </div></div>


I agree how ever we are talking about a 22 can with no welds, i dont find their center fire suppressors attractive.

i can get this checkmate used for 150 or a yhm mite used for 150.

i would like to try the mono core can but some one told me the mite suppressor is pretty quiet so what do you all think ?

for 200 i can get a liberty shoofly should i go that rout instead ? </div></div>

Why do you insist on paying for a used suppressor and a tax stamp?! 22 cans are worth nothing when used. Don't waste your time or tax money. Ever wonder why you rarely see suppressors up for sale? The resale on them is a fraction of what they were worth new. </div></div>


just seems to be a better price for me i guess.. but thanks for the heads up
 
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One of the owners is a member here, HPLLC. And I've seen all the bad press they have been getting. But none of them extend beyond people hating their guts and "I've handled one but..."

I have myself and one other person seen these in person. The Checkmate is a great affordable can that can be taken down. The stamp cleared today on their Scout, one of the first three they ever made. The can is solid, nice welds, and good construction.

Range reports are all good too.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David Hineline</div><div class="ubbcode-body">silencer research did a review on all those products, so join his site and pay for the premium membership and see which one did the best.</div></div>

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for that price why dont you get one of the thompson machine cans. They are having a sale right now till the end of the month I think. It would be about the same price as the used ones your looking at but would be new
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kingweb50</div><div class="ubbcode-body">for that price why dont you get one of the thompson machine cans. They are having a sale right now till the end of the month I think. It would be about the same price as the used ones your looking at but would be new </div></div>

went to their sight but didnt see any thing about a sale
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David Hineline</div><div class="ubbcode-body">silencer research did a review on all those products, so join his site and pay for the premium membership and see which one did the best. </div></div>


he told me their was a db or two between them, nothing major
 
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I bought a Checkmate QD suppressor a couple of years ago and I've been very happy with it. It's similar, but not exactly the same as the Hybrid in the link that you posted.

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I read the 22 suppressor comparison (2007, about when I bought it) on Silencer Research and it finished about the middle of the pack on a pistol and towards the top on the rifle. The quick detach feature appealed to me because I knew I'd be switching it between firearms frequently during range sessions. The QD feature works well for me even when dirty and makes swaps easy. The suppressor came with 2 QD adapters and they were also available from the manufacturer.

I compared it to the YHM Mite (dealer had it in stock too) when I was making the purchase. The YHM was significantly heavier (SS model) and lacked the QD feature. I also noticed that it had lower sound reduction levels in the Silencer Research tests (don't know how much of a "real world" difference that makes).

The Checkmate 22 suppressor is well made, and I've disassembled/reassembled it for cleaning with no issues. I knock the big chunks off, put a little lube on the threads, and go back to shooting. It probably has about 4,000 or 5,000 rounds through it at this point, mostly from new shooters (its almost magical the way new shooter's anxiety disappears when shooting a suppressed 22). The weight is low enough that it doesn't adversely effect the balance on the Browning Buckmark pistol host.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mike_f</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I bought a Checkmate QD suppressor a couple of years ago and I've been very happy with it. It's similar, but not exactly the same as the Hybrid in the link that you posted.

CheckmatePartsA.jpg


I read the 22 suppressor comparison (2007, about when I bought it) on Silencer Research and it finished about the middle of the pack on a pistol and towards the top on the rifle. The quick detach feature appealed to me because I knew I'd be switching it between firearms frequently during range sessions. The QD feature works well for me even when dirty and makes swaps easy. The suppressor came with 2 QD adapters and they were also available from the manufacturer.

I compared it to the YHM Mite (dealer had it in stock too) when I was making the purchase. The YHM was significantly heavier (SS model) and lacked the QD feature. I also noticed that it had lower sound reduction levels in the Silencer Research tests (don't know how much of a "real world" difference that makes).

The Checkmate 22 suppressor is well made, and I've disassembled/reassembled it for cleaning with no issues. I knock the big chunks off, put a little lube on the threads, and go back to shooting. It probably has about 4,000 or 5,000 rounds through it at this point, mostly from new shooters (its almost magical the way new shooter's anxiety disappears when shooting a suppressed 22). The weight is low enough that it doesn't adversely effect the balance on the Browning Buckmark pistol host. </div></div>

awesome little "review" i feel a hell of a lot better about buying this suppressor
 
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The SilencerCO Sparrow is a little more money but I think the best 22 suppressor out there. I have run everything from 22 to 5.7 thru it and its suppression levels on all hosts has been outstanding.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The SilencerCO Sparrow is a little more money but I think the best 22 suppressor out there. I have run everything from 22 to 5.7 thru it and its suppression levels on all hosts has been outstanding. </div></div>

i do agree with you on this, i feel its most likely the best 22 suppressor out their
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black_ump</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The SilencerCO Sparrow is a little more money but I think the best 22 suppressor out there. I have run everything from 22 to 5.7 thru it and its suppression levels on all hosts has been outstanding. </div></div>

i do agree with you on this, i feel its most likely the best 22 suppressor out their </div></div>

How much trigger time do you have with one?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black_ump</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The SilencerCO Sparrow is a little more money but I think the best 22 suppressor out there. I have run everything from 22 to 5.7 thru it and its suppression levels on all hosts has been outstanding. </div></div>

i do agree with you on this, i feel its most likely the best 22 suppressor out their </div></div>

How much trigger time do you have with one? </div></div>


my dealer has a demo one so i shoot it when ever, mostly on saturdays but 400 bucks to me seems high for a 22 can, not that its junk by any means... but with so many good cans out their for 250... and since i dont make the big bucks my wallet usually determines what "cool" things i can buy
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ill take performance and build quality over $150.00 anyday. Thats just me though and how I roll. </div></div>


splash some of your cash my way homie, the tm zephyr is also a mono core can and is reported to get the same db rating as the sparrow and a lot of the other high end cans and quality seems to be up their as well

http://www.thompsonmachine.net/?page_id=14