Gun sites including ar15.com getting deplatformed

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This is all temporary, I’m sure right now there are people with deep pockets putting together a conservative friendly company for web hosting and payment services, there is to much money to be made not to, the free market is allot like nature it always recovers unless the government gets involved.
If a person had $10mil, they could make soooo much money right now.
 
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Well. That pretty much confirms what Frank has been saying, for those skeptics out there...

As of Monday morning, the FBI told Fox News it had received "over 40,000 digital media tips, including video and photos, from the public."


Wonder how many were dick pics, I know some people did their part lol
 

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    Well a couple of forums I followed got TOS'd today. LL is right, it's time to take cover from the incoming. They are and have been silencing any voices that don't toe the party line, and it's only going to get worse. These weren't big long established forums like arf. They are even going after the little guys now.

    Return fire can be a bitch.
     
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    I spoke to my server guy, he says we are good,

    Still I talked to them about moving my backup, and they agree, so there is that.

    He read the AR15 stuff and was surprised it took Go Daddy that long to dump them. They are notorious for their anti gun stance on their servers.
     

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  • We badly need data mining and its secure distribution.

    We also need hardware that can we can trust (i.e. without backdoors)


    AKA self sufficiency. Extremely important for playing a long game. Compare a standalone castle by itself versus a fortified manor that includes a walled town with steel foundries and artisan shops, farmland, orchards, stocks of seeds in ready supply and access to groundwater in case the one river flowing past the manor is inaccessible due to prolonged siege...
     

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    I honestly think we should talk less about hosting

    This is the thing, they have it figured out if enough complain companies will react.

    They are making up lies and complaining about things said every single day previously with no drama, so less said is better
    Have you ever thought about freezing registration - ie no new members allowed for say the next 6 months? And make it so only current registered members can view the site at all? And then as said, revisit the situation after 6 mo.?

    Drastic times call for drastic measures.
     

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    What would be the concequences of taking the site private? At least private to where you cant search or view content with a simple google search. Then lock down new memberships to relaoding or actual shooting related. Lock newbs out of even casual talk forums worst case lock down to new members?
    Didnt see your comment before I posted pretty much the same thing...

    I second this motion. Except Id go a bit stricter, completely freeze new registrations entirely. Revisit after 6 months.

    Maybe make a caveat that if 2-3 current members with at least 2-3 year old accounts vouch for someone, then MAYBE let em register. Perhaps vet their social media posts and other forum post history, etc..?? Just throwing out some ideas. We gotta draw a line in the sand YESTERDAY! SH can NOT be allowed to go up in smoke!!!

    We need to get proactive on these fuckers @lowlight
     
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    Didnt see your comment before I posted pretty much the same thing...

    I second this motion. Except Id go a bit stricter, completely freeze new registrations entirely. Revisit after 6 months.

    Maybe make a caveat that if 2-3 current members with at least 2-3 year old accounts vouch for someone, then MAYBE let em register. Perhaps vet their social media posts and other forum post history, etc..?? Just throwing out some ideas. We gotta draw a line in the sand YESTERDAY! SH can NOT be allowed to go up in smoke!!!

    We need to get proactive on these fuckers @lowlight
    +1for lockdown.
     

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    Have you ever thought about freezing registration - ie no new members allowed for say the next 6 months? And make it so only current registered members can view the site at all? And then as said, revisit the situation after 6 mo.?

    Drastic times call for drastic measures.

    Because if the site does that the left will all of a sudden respect the Second Amendment of the US Constitution, and realize the error of their ways in trying to silence people they disagree with??



    One can get on their knees and suck their virtue signal, but they'll still try to destroy your First and Second Amendment rights.
    Or move your hosting to a more pro American hosting service and speak your mind like a American.

    No matter your choice, the radical left will always hate you or anyone who doesn’t fit their cookie cutter leftist mold.
     
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    Taking the site private.... Like secret handshake shut the door, must knock to enter

    Money ...

    Who is gonna foot the bills, the traffic is a large part of that stream, I am moving away from an Ad based model, I think it's dead or at least dying, so I am working on other ways to engage members.

    Money is always the answer, I have to have enough to run the place, that requires bills to get paid, which requires new members to join, people to Upgrade or at least look at the site.

    The answer is always money, if you have enough to close the doors and turn up the air conditioning great, if not, the doors have to be open so more people can come in ...

    You have private rooms now, if you are a supporter, go into the private areas and talk, behind a paywall makes it much better like you are talking, but we have them here, just use them more.

    There is a pay wall to hide behind, it's just a small room right now
     

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    Taking the site private.... Like secret handshake shut the door, must knock to enter

    Money ...

    Who is gonna foot the bills, the traffic is a large part of that stream, I am moving away from an Ad based model, I think it's dead or at least dying, so I am working on other ways to engage members.

    Money is always the answer, I have to have enough to run the place, that requires bills to get paid, which requires new members to join, people to Upgrade or at least look at the site.

    The answer is always money, if you have enough to close the doors and turn up the air conditioning great, if not, the doors have to be open so more people can come in ...

    You have private rooms now, if you are a supporter, go into the private areas and talk, behind a paywall makes it much better like you are talking, but we have them here, just use them more.

    There is a pay wall to hide behind, it's just a small room right now
    Roger that. Please Excuse my lack of knowledge on running a forum..
     

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    I may be new, but Id be happy to kick the site a few bucks, or buy some swag or something.

    Still think no matter how you try to bend to the lefts will, they will shut anything that doesn't resonate in their echo chamber if they can, if wiki leaks can stay up, I dont see what pro constitutional sites are worried about, how much more is it to move to pro freedom servers?

    Or maybe the big question, would be finding a pro freedom way to accept money, maybe some card to bitcoin to funds thing? I mean thats what crypto was made for
     

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    I may be new, but Id be happy to kick the site a few bucks, or buy some swag or something.

    Still think no matter how you try to bend to the lefts will, they will shut anything that doesn't resonate in their echo chamber if they can, if wiki leaks can stay up, I dont see what pro constitutional sites are worried about, how much more is it to move to pro freedom servers?

    Or maybe the big question, would be finding a pro freedom way to accept money, maybe some card to bitcoin to funds thing? I mean thats what crypto was made for
    https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/account/upgrades/
    https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/donate/help-cover-community-costs.1/donate
     

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    There is actually an IP attacking happening now..

    Since last night they are striking at the site but our security is blocking them, they are hitting pretty hard too

    Normally they try for a while and give up, these guys are calling in reinforcements, l you can see them handing it off to others to try

    Firewall has blocked 121 attacks over the last 10 minutes
     

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    There is actually an IP attacking happening now..

    Since last night they are striking at the site but our security is blocking them, they are hitting pretty hard too

    Normally they try for a while and give up, these guys are calling in reinforcements, l you can see them handing it off to others to try

    Firewall has blocked 121 attacks over the last 10 minutes
    Any chance of tracking the attacks? IPs look domestic or international?
     
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    There is actually an IP attacking happening now..

    Since last night they are striking at the site but our security is blocking them, they are hitting pretty hard too

    Normally they try for a while and give up, these guys are calling in reinforcements, l you can see them handing it off to others to try

    Firewall has blocked 121 attacks over the last 10 minutes

    It would be bad to have an API that will let us know those IPs and hammer them back? We can have a dedicated raspberry for this.
     

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    There is actually an IP attacking happening now..

    Since last night they are striking at the site but our security is blocking them, they are hitting pretty hard too

    Normally they try for a while and give up, these guys are calling in reinforcements, l you can see them handing it off to others to try

    Firewall has blocked 121 attacks over the last 10 minutes

    The “tolerant” left doing the 21st century version of this, all while screaming everyone else is a “nazi” :unsure:






     

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    Just out of boredom and curiosity I have been actually reading some of the comments in these threads on Twitter...

    It's seriously weaponized, they have a metric ton of Karens just ready to strike and they are all too happy. Giggy is a word when they get unleashed on a conservative

    It's crazy
     

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    Take it offline,

    Infect you for visiting

    Attacks happen every day, but they are usually in small blocks, they try and leave, this is non stop today and my personal inbox is full of fishing scams
    I guess I don't fucking understand people anymore. Sorry you have to deal with that.
     

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    I wonder the level of the hackers and hacks. are they real hackers or just some SJW groups with random list of websites to attack and some basic tools?

    It's basic stuff. If it was a serious attack by one of the big groups (state or non state) we would be offline. A site like this does not have the funds to build defense in depth against a coordinated and concerted attack at scale. Cyber is a significant chunk of my day job...
     

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    it’s disturbing but then again, you gotta pick the right host,

    Good moderators

    And zero tolerance for bullshit. We’re here for our hobby. Our local forum has locked everything down. The shit heads left or were banned. It’s literally a PG forum. And I’m 1000000000000000000% ok with it.

    Worst case scenario, I’ll be the first to sign up for the SnipersHide monthly newsletter.
     

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    it’s disturbing but then again, you gotta pick the right host,

    Good moderators

    And zero tolerance for bullshit. We’re here for our hobby. Our local forum has locked everything down. The shit heads left or were banned. It’s literally a PG forum. And I’m 1000000000000000000% ok with it.

    Worst case scenario, I’ll be the first to sign up for the SnipersHide monthly newsletter.



    If men like this ^ kept it PG, and their peers didn’t tolerate their “BS” we’d have the queen on our money and wouldn’t have our rights.
    Hence sections like the bear pit, etc, if it wasn’t for guys like Paul we wouldn’t be able to enjoy our hobby, and if the statists have their wet dreams come true, you think you’ll be “allowed” to have that scary “sniper rifle”?

    When statists want you to keep quite, best to say it twice as much and twice as loud.
     
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    Fuck Paul Revere, he was a drunken idiot who never made it to Concord. He was captured by the brits before he made it the 5 miles to Concord.

    If you want a real hero of the Revolutionary War who made a ride to be proud of, look to Martin Gambill.


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    Fuck Paul Revere, he was a drunken idiot who never made it to Concord. He was captured by the brits before he made it the 5 miles to Concord.

    If you want a real hero of the Revolutionary War who made a ride to be proud of, look to Martin Gambill.


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    You do know that pretty much all the great minds back then smoke and drank enough that they’d be tossed in jail in most “conservative” states right? lol

    My point still stands, history has not smiled upon the meek.
     

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    You guys completely misunderstood what I said. Keep fueling the rhetoric. You will be the ones to draw attention the the hide.

    Our local forum, (local for our own club), I’ll continue to break it down for your tunnel visioned minds, is a non profit which means zero to little money just to support the club.

    Had decided to eliminate any type of political thread, post, whatever for two reasons. 1.) to stay off the radar, 2.) with a zero tolerance rule, this prevents Trojan horses from starting “problems”, we can talk all the garbage offline, without leaving a trail of candy wrappers for the big bad wolf to find us.

    I’m not here to argue, but your “need to type something revolutionary / inserection based” is not how we will win this long term battle. Start thinking big game. Don’t pretend there are not political trolls among the users here. They exist, and they will fuel the fire until someone makes a stupid comment or statement the. WHAMMO. They got you.

    ATF has been on Ar15 for years, baiting, fueling, and arresting members. You think the dems don’t have spies?

    @TurboTrout

    You joined October 2020,
    90% of your posts are negative regarding the last year. You’re sus bro.

    people that come to this site to stay in the bear pit to complain and fuel the fire are coming here for the wrong reason.

    @lowlight

    All this rhetoric should be kept to a very specific area, with very specific rules, to really control “moderation” .

    I support @lowlight and I fully understand what he’s doing to keep us safe. The hide is more important to me than typing something about “insert revolution garbage here”.
     
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    You guys completely misunderstood what I said. Keep fueling the rhetoric. You will be the ones to draw attention the the hide.

    Our local forum, (local for our own club), I’ll continue to break it down for your tunnel visioned minds, is a non profit which means zero to little money just to support the club.

    Had decided to eliminate any type of political thread, post, whatever for two reasons. 1.) to stay off the radar, 2.) with a zero tolerance rule, this prevents Trojan horses from starting “problems”, we can talk all the garbage offline, without leaving a trail of candy wrappers for the big bad wolf to find us.

    I’m not here to argue, but your “need to type something revolutionary / inserection based” is not how we will win this long term battle. Start thinking big game. Don’t pretend there are not political trolls among the users here. They exist, and they will fuel the fire until someone makes a stupid comment or statement the. WHAMMO. They got you.

    ATF has been on Ar15 for years, baiting, fueling, and arresting members. You think the dems don’t have spies?

    @TurboTrout

    You joined October 2020,
    90% of your posts are negative regarding the last year. You’re sus bro.

    people that come to this site to stay in the bear pit to complain and fuel the fire are coming here for the wrong reason.

    @lowlight

    All this rhetoric should be kept to a very specific area, with very specific rules, to really control “moderation” .

    I support @lowlight and I fully understand what he’s doing to keep us safe. The hide is more important to me than typing something about “insert revolution garbage here”.

    BS, I’ve posted more than a few questions, added to some technical topics, just gave my praise to aadland, and YES my posts pertaining to the recent silencing of folks on the net and this election are “negative”, no shit, guess me and 70 million other Americans who ain’t too happy of recent events are super “suspect”.

    I think the arfcom thing was EXCELLENT, it showed the BS of the statist censor/cancel culture and gave pro 2A and pro individual liberty folks a voice, sadly most are basement “grey man” tactical fudds who don’t want their voice widely heard...this type of thinking is why the left seems to smash us on lots of mass marketing even though their product is vastly inferior in practice, history and by basic logic.

    I’ve said this many times, frickin’ hippies are more down to fight and speak out just so they can smoke a joint than we are for our RIGHTS.

    Yeah, I’m the one who is “suspect”... you’re calling to silence and ban other members like me, and I’m “suspect”?
     
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    BS, I’ve posted more than a few questions, and YES my posts about the recent silencing of folks on the net and this election are negative, guess me and 70 million other Americans are super “suspect”.

    I think the arfcom thing was EXCELLENT, it showed the BS of the statist censor/cancel culture and gave pro 2A and pro individual liberty folks a voice, sadly most are basement “grey man” tactical fudds who don’t want their voice widely heard...this type of thinking is why the left seems to smash us on lots of mass marketing even though their product is vastly inferior in practice, history and by basic logic.

    I’ve said this many times, frickin’ hippies are more down to fight and speak out just so they can smoke a joint than we are for our RIGHTS.

    Yeah I’m the one who is “suspect”... you’re calling to silence and ban other members like me, and I’m “suspect”

    You are a idiot.

    Completely missing the point.

    Sorry, I wasn’t aware I was talking to a internet Hero, my apologies.

    I won’t be responding as Ive ignored you. Good luck hero.
     

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    I’m in IT also... I had one my of employees today screw with DNS to block some sites and I caught him. He about crapped when I fired his ‘woke’ ass thinking that he could do what HE wanted. He actually had the balls to try and argue with me while I had security escort him to the curb. What’s wrong with these fools??? Wtf
    Bad ass. Dox him.