Halo LR running review

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Going to do a running review on the halo 50 like I did with the 25. Same full blown disclaimer: regular dude with a regular dude job, these thoughts and opinions are mine. If someone wants to pay for my thoughts and opinions please PM me, I'll be more than happy to accommodate as the outlook in the oil word is ummmm bleak.

Recently swapped from the halo 25mm to the halo 50mm in anticipation for taking longer and longer shots on some new property that we are about to start hunting. Nothing wrong with the 25, it's a great scope, but when the guys tell you that 300 plus yard shots are pretty common you bump up your glass. I don't have a ton of thoughts just yet, but the scope did have a great first weekend out. 19 total hogs down in 2 days with a kill at 386 yards.

First thing I did when I got home was to take it out and look across the pasture....I was blown away that I could see the flags across the pasture and highway. Those flags are 1050 yards away and I could watch them flapping around easily.
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I mean damn, I was blown away just how clearly I could see the flags. Later that afternoon the wife, kiddo and myself went out to one of the ranches I've been hunting to spend the weekend riding horses and me hunting in the evenings. Scope zeroed no problem and returned to zero when it was removed and reinstalled.

With the scope zeroed and ready to go I set up on a hill and started my overwatch, I had the ranch owner in tow outfitted with the Armasite Zeus mounted to a 10.5" 300blk. We sat on the hill and about 2130 the pigs came out of the brush and started working on the freshly disced right of way near a pond. Group was 20-25 strong, but made up of mostly 100-150 pound pigs and piglets. I could tell very easily at 570 yards that it was pigs, no body language interpretation was needed. The wind was in our favor so we started out walking down the gravel road, I was in front running a thin filmed pvs14 and Mr. Rancher was in the back. After about 200 yard we stopped and set up on tripods to see if the pigs had moved and they were continuing to filter out of the brush and down to the pond. While scanning the pond to our left, we detected another sounder. I decided we should stay on HOGS 1 as they were in a more open field. We closed to 75 yards and set up on shooting sticks.

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At 75 yards I could see what hogs were wet from being in the pond, clearly defined facial features and the organs/ skull were significantly hotter than the rest of the body. It was video game cool to look at the pigs at that distance. I gave the 3,2,1 and we started hammering on them.
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When the smoke cleared and we had 7 down dead. The halo was less of a hindrance than I had though it would be shooting runners, but I was more difficult than shooting runners with the 25mm. Mr. Rancher hangs tight while I walk back to the ranger, it's not uncommon for piglets to come back out when the shooting stops to look for momma, so leaving a man behind for clean up makes sense. As I'm walking back to the ranger I stop and look back at HOGS 2 and the are gone except for one lone pig. I know that firing up the ranger is most likely going to push him out so I set up on the pig saddle in a seated position and gear up to take the shot. I had left the range finder in the ranger, but I figured I was looking at 400- 425 yards. I held a little over two mils elevation and a .5 mil for wind on the second zoom setting and slowly broke the geissele trigger. I heard the round impact and sent a second round as the pig staggered around. Pig dropped out of sight and I actually laughed out loud.

We rounded up the pigs from HOGS1 and then went to look for the pig from HOG2. It took a while, but we found him about 50 yards away from where I thought he had dropped. Both shots were basically in guts, but up high around the spine. Complete pass through from the 110gr S&B pts, but the wounds were pretty unremarkable. If he had been bigger than 75-85 pounds I doubt it would have been lethal.
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Overall it's too early to really have some in depth thoughts about the LR, but it's first night out was epic. The one bitch I have is that it seems to consume batteries way faster, if I wind up with a battery pack, I'm going to need to build a new rig because the LWRC razorback was already chunky with the halo, but it's even chunkier with the LR.
 
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Can you use a battery bank and plug it into the instead of using batteries?
 

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Can you use a battery bank and plug it into the instead of using batteries?
Yep. Bonus feature is most of the battery packs double as a dvr so you can record. I’m trying to keep the weight/ bull down, but it may have to happen.
 

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Is that a hog pipe pictured? I always go nervous the cows would fuck it up so we never use em. Looks like yours works.
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Yep, we make them with the thicker schedule 80 pvc pipe and they hold up to cows just fine. Now the cows will straight fuck up a camera given a chance so I try and put those well up into a tree facing down.
 

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Going to do a running review on the halo 50 like I did with the 25. Same full blown disclaimer: regular dude with a regular dude job, these thoughts and opinions are mine. If someone wants to pay for my thoughts and opinions please PM me, I'll be more than happy to accommodate as the outlook in the oil word is ummmm bleak.

Recently swapped from the halo 25mm to the halo 50mm in anticipation for taking longer and longer shots on some new property that we are about to start hunting. Nothing wrong with the 25, it's a great scope, but when the guys tell you that 300 plus yard shots are pretty common you bump up your glass. I don't have a ton of thoughts just yet, but the scope did have a great first weekend out. 19 total hogs down in 2 days with a kill at 386 yards.

First thing I did when I got home was to take it out and look across the pasture....I was blown away that I could see the flags across the pasture and highway. Those flags are 1050 yards away and I could watch them flapping around easily.
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I mean damn, I was blown away just how clearly I could see the flags. Later that afternoon the wife, kiddo and myself went out to one of the ranches I've been hunting to spend the weekend riding horses and me hunting in the evenings. Scope zeroed no problem and returned to zero when it was removed and reinstalled.

With the scope zeroed and ready to go I set up on a hill and started my overwatch, I had the ranch owner in tow outfitted with the Armasite Zeus mounted to a 10.5" 300blk. We sat on the hill and about 2130 the pigs came out of the brush and started working on the freshly disced right of way near a pond. Group was 20-25 strong, but made up of mostly 100-150 pound pigs and piglets. I could tell very easily at 570 yards that it was pigs, no body language interpretation was needed. The wind was in our favor so we started out walking down the gravel road, I was in front running a thin filmed pvs14 and Mr. Rancher was in the back. After about 200 yard we stopped and set up on tripods to see if the pigs had moved and they were continuing to filter out of the brush and down to the pond. While scanning the pond to our left, we detected another sounder. I decided we should stay on HOGS 1 as they were in a more open field. We closed to 75 yards and set up on shooting sticks.

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At 75 yards I could see what hogs were wet from being in the pond, clearly defined facial features and the organs/ skull were significantly hotter than the rest of the body. It was video game cool to look at the pigs at that distance. I gave the 3,2,1 and we started hammering on them.
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When the smoke cleared and we had 7 down dead. The halo was less of a hindrance than I had though it would be shooting runners, but I was more difficult than shooting runners with the 25mm. Mr. Rancher hangs tight while I walk back to the ranger, it's not uncommon for piglets to come back out when the shooting stops to look for momma, so leaving a man behind for clean up makes sense. As I'm walking back to the ranger I stop and look back at HOGS 2 and the are gone except for one lone pig. I know that firing up the ranger is most likely going to push him out so I set up on the pig saddle in a seated position and gear up to take the shot. I had left the range finder in the ranger, but I figured I was looking at 400- 425 yards. I held a little over two mils elevation and a .5 mil for wind on the second zoom setting and slowly broke the geissele trigger. I heard the round impact and sent a second round as the pig staggered around. Pig dropped out of sight and I actually laughed out loud.

We rounded up the pigs from HOGS1 and then went to look for the pig from HOG2. It took a while, but we found him about 50 yards away from where I thought he had dropped. Both shots were basically in guts, but up high around the spine. Complete pass through from the 110gr S&B pts, but the wounds were pretty unremarkable. If he had been bigger than 75-85 pounds I doubt it would have been lethal.
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Overall it's too early to really have some in depth thoughts about the LR, but it's first night out was epic. The one bitch I have is that it seems to consume batteries way faster, if I wind up with a battery pack, I'm going to need to build a new rig because the LWRC razorback was already chunky with the halo, but it's even chunkier with the LR.
How much battery life are you getting a few guys said 4-6 hrs
 

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How much battery life are you getting a few guys said 4-6 hrs
Haven’t killed a set 100% yet. Last Saturday I hunted 4 hours and it wasn’t dead, but it was on the last bar of power so I swapped them before Sunday’s hunt. Didn’t run it much Sunday as I had someone else onboard with a scanner. From what I saw 4-6 hours seems about right.
 
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Haven’t killed a set 100% yet. Last Saturday I hunted 4 hours and it wasn’t dead, but it was on the last bar of power so I swapped them before Sunday’s hunt. Didn’t run it much Sunday as I had someone else onboard with a scanner. From what I saw 4-6 hours seems about right.
On and off for 4 hrs or 4 hrs straight
 
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Only off when I moved between spots. Or was rounding up pigs after shooting. Maybe 3.5 hours total run time? One of these days I’m gonna set the time on my phone and stop and start it to get a real number, than that’s alot to manage on top of staying well hydrated 😉
 

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Thanks for your input on the Halo 25 thread and then starting this one. This info has real value for those trying to figure out the best bang for the buck and being able to obtain first hand data from real users is priceless!
 
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@BamaSE no problem man. When I was getting ready to buy the 25 I felt like there wasn’t a lot of info out there on them. I mean there are a handful of review videos on YouTube, but for the most part not alot of info. There is a lot of info on the 50, but I figured the more info the better. Might be my only decent contribution on here lol.
 

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@NFAJohn, Halo and Halo-LR and electronically the same. You may want to confirm that your video output is set to OFF. Even when there is no video recorder connected to the scope if the Video output is set to PAL or NTSC the chip inside consumes some noticeable power.

The one bitch I have is that it seems to consume batteries way faster, if I wind up with a battery pack, I'm going to need to build a new rig because the LWRC razorback was already chunky with the halo, but it's even chunkier with the LR.
 

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Maybe a dumb question, but can you carry the battery pack in your pocket and run a micro USB into the HALO and plug it in or does it not work that way? That’s what I do with my FLIR
 

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Proactive customer service at it's finest! @Max_R I powered up the unit and video and picture were set to "off" and "no" respectively. Could be the batteries, going to swing by the lgs and get a new box before I get concerned.

@djarecke I'm sure you could, but I would think mounting the battery to the stock or handguard would be less awkward. You wouldn't be literally tethered to the gun. Most of the recorders seem to include provisions for weapon mounting them.
 
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which reticle has mils and is it "FFP" lol do they change with magnification?

I'm waiting in mine
Deleted my comments, covered better here.
@Killswitch Engage has a good write up of the topic on here.

 

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Kind of a slower night last night, wind wasn't great for hunting most of the hog tubes, but we managed to put down one decent sized boar, a lone piglet and some trophy raccoons. We spotted several sounders, but the wind kept screwing around and switching what felt like every time we closed to inside of 300 yards.
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I grabbed a fresh box of Surefire batteries from the lgs and they seemed to last longer than the other set of Surefires I was running. After 4.5 hours I still had two squares of battery life left. I saved the batteries and will run them to failure sometime this weekend. I wouldn't think batteries would fatigue in storage, but there is no guarantee the first set of Surefires I tried didn't get previously used in a flashlight for function checking or something as the box was open when it was "discovered" in the bin oh parts.

Overall the LR just continues to absolutely stun people who look through it, my buddy last night just muttered "fuck get that thing away from me" last night :ROFLMAO: . The dew usually sets in around 3 and the performance when the dew is coming in is really awesome. This deer was right at 200 yards and I could see the ears twitching very very clearly. I was able to easily tell a raccoon from an armadillo at 250-300 yards all night long.
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The real test is this coming up week when I roll to West, Texas for a few days of hunting. My hopes are really high that in the arid climate this thing is going to be an absolute stunner.
 

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Can you use a battery bank and plug it into the instead of using batteries?
Yes but be very careful as it is common to lose your zero while running external power. Any glitch from the external battery pack and your shooting blanks. I found this out the hard way.
 

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How much battery life are you getting a few guys said 4-6 hrs
During winter months my halo lr is lucky to make it two hours. I don’t have enough experience in warmer months to say what it will do but I would be hard pressed to see it go 6 hours.
 

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During winter months my halo lr is lucky to make it two hours. I don’t have enough experience in warmer months to say what it will do but I would be hard pressed to see it go 6 hours.
How cold is winter in your area? What batteries? I know cold degrades battery run times, but I’m hoping my Texas “winter” temps don’t blow batteries in two hours.
 

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Can you velcro a pouch with a pocket warmer to the battery compartment?
 

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How cold is winter in your area? What batteries? I know cold degrades battery run times, but I’m hoping my Texas “winter” temps don’t blow batteries in two hours.
Average night lows are in the teens but it’s not uncommon to have a few weeks on and off where the lows are -20f or colder. I checked my video output settings last night and the factory default was set to ntsc. I put the setting in the off position and also disabled the photo setting, I am very happy to have potentially discovered the battery issue. I was running the energizer lithium 123s.
 

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Average night lows are in the teens but it’s not uncommon to have a few weeks on and off where the lows are -20f or colder. I checked my video output settings last night and the factory default was set to ntsc. I put the setting in the off position and also disabled the photo setting, I am very happy to have potentially discovered the battery issue. I was running the energizer lithium 123s.
Jesus Christ, that’s cold. Winter here is like 40s and dipping into freezing less than 10-12 days a year.

In the 25mm halo I had I always felt that the energizers wore out faster than the surefire batteries. I never put it on the clock to the min, but I remember powering it up and inside of a 1/2 hour I’d be down one square. I’m going to stick with surefire from here out personally.
 

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Jesus Christ, that’s cold. Winter here is like 40s and dipping into freezing less than 10-12 days a year.

In the 25mm halo I had I always felt that the energizers wore out faster than the surefire batteries. I never put it on the clock to the min, but I remember powering it up and inside of a 1/2 hour I’d be down one square. I’m going to stick with surefire from here out personally.
Thanks I will be sure to try some surefire batteries. I got 3 sets of fenix rechargeable batteries waiting to to try as well. I am hoping the rechargeable 123s work out.
 
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Well the West, Texas run was a bust, wound up having to work and couldn't chase yotes or pigs. Hopefully be making another run out there this week sometime. I had some pretty good size boars on camera and decided to make a run on them last night. Was the first night I've spent an extended amount of time running the Mod3Bravos and it's a total game changer. Driving, walking, moving over rough terrain and avoiding snakes is a thousand times easier running dual tubes. The WP tubes preformed awesome even when walking and driving trails with 100% overhead canopy. It was black as a sack of black cats and I was able to see a big ass water moccasin on the bank near a pond.

Obligatory gear flex photo:
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First pig we got on was spotted from the top of a hill at 530 yards. He was by himself and kept ducking just over the top of the next hill, problem was the wind was nearly full value to our back. Choices were skirt around him via another trailer or hug the tree line and hope to get a crack at him. We decided loosing sight of him and going for a walk was riskier that hugging the trees and going slow. The whole walk down I could easily see the top of the hill and would catch little glimpses of him rooting. When we got 50 yards short of the crest of the hill we set up on the hog saddles and didn't see anything for 10 minutes. The consensus was he winded us and since we were here it wouldn't hurt to crest the hill and just overwatch. We'd been set up about 5 mins when he started peaking in and out of some brush across the right of way. I moved us down about 40 yards off the crest of hill to giving us a more favorable wind and we set up for the shot. My partner this evening was running a 308 with a pulsar 50mm (not exactly sure that model) . With the pig peaking at around 100,125 we set up and waited for him to get a little too brave. He hung out a little to long and we pulled a nice simo shot. I held neck and my partner held shoulder, both rounds found there mark and exited. Good sized boar was drt.
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Next pig up was a super text book down wind run up and get done up face lift. This pig was significantly bigger than pig one, but the simo shot didn't quite work out. My partner's round didn't find it's mark, but my 6.8 round went just behind the ear hole so it was a drt. He did get one security shot for the gat when I walked up to him as he was still breathing. The american eagle varmint 6.8 ammo is still leaving nasty exits and dumping pigs, it's 76 cents a round and works just as well as the PTS 110gr did.
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Got my steps in tonight for sure, phone said 13k steps.
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Both pigs side by side on the trailer, I don't know the exact dimensions of the trailer, but it's a good sized goose neck.
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Overall all a great evening with the LR. Battery life seems to be better when I just turn it on and leave it on all night, that or the fresher set of batteries has a little more juice to them. After being on 3.5 hours last night I still had 2 squares of battery left. Detection was cake all night long, at no point did I have to do any body language interpretation on those boars. The second boar was mixed in with some cows and stood out like a sore thumb despite being about the size of a calf. When pig two got shot I could see a mist of shit blow off of him at impact. Despite it being hotter n shit and humid the image was great. There was noticeable image degradation around 0230 when the dew set in, but it was still smoking the pulsar unit and I had no issue calling deer/ no deer when we were scanning some hay pastures. The mount is still returning to zero and I haven't broken the lens cover yet so life is good. I do have a complaint about the Mod3Bs tho.

It's impossible to drink a crown and coke from a yeti cup while your driving. You gotta roll them up to hydrate, bunch of bullshit, I'm not getting a damn straw.
 

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Well the West, Texas run was a bust, wound up having to work and couldn't chase yotes or pigs. Hopefully be making another run out there this week sometime. I had some pretty good size boars on camera and decided to make a run on them last night. Was the first night I've spent an extended amount of time running the Mod3Bravos and it's a total game changer. Driving, walking, moving over rough terrain and avoiding snakes is a thousand times easier running dual tubes. The WP tubes preformed awesome even when walking and driving trails with 100% overhead canopy. It was black as a sack of black cats and I was able to see a big ass water moccasin on the bank near a pond.

Obligatory gear flex photo:
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First pig we got on was spotted from the top of a hill at 530 yards. He was by himself and kept ducking just over the top of the next hill, problem was the wind was nearly full value to our back. Choices were skirt around him via another trailer or hug the tree line and hope to get a crack at him. We decided loosing sight of him and going for a walk was riskier that hugging the trees and going slow. The whole walk down I could easily see the top of the hill and would catch little glimpses of him rooting. When we got 50 yards short of the crest of the hill we set up on the hog saddles and didn't see anything for 10 minutes. The consensus was he winded us and since we were here it wouldn't hurt to crest the hill and just overwatch. We'd been set up about 5 mins when he started peaking in and out of some brush across the right of way. I moved us down about 40 yards off the crest of hill to giving us a more favorable wind and we set up for the shot. My partner this evening was running a 308 with a pulsar 50mm (not exactly sure that model) . With the pig peaking at around 100,125 we set up and waited for him to get a little too brave. He hung out a little to long and we pulled a nice simo shot. I held neck and my partner held shoulder, both rounds found there mark and exited. Good sized boar was drt.
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Next pig up was a super text book down wind run up and get done up face lift. This pig was significantly bigger than pig one, but the simo shot didn't quite work out. My partner's round didn't find it's mark, but my 6.8 round went just behind the ear hole so it was a drt. He did get one security shot for the gat when I walked up to him as he was still breathing. The american eagle varmint 6.8 ammo is still leaving nasty exits and dumping pigs, it's 76 cents a round and works just as well as the PTS 110gr did.
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Got my steps in tonight for sure, phone said 13k steps.
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Both pigs side by side on the trailer, I don't know the exact dimensions of the trailer, but it's a good sized goose neck.
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Overall all a great evening with the LR. Battery life seems to be better when I just turn it on and leave it on all night, that or the fresher set of batteries has a little more juice to them. After being on 3.5 hours last night I still had 2 squares of battery left. Detection was cake all night long, at no point did I have to do any body language interpretation on those boars. The second boar was mixed in with some cows and stood out like a sore thumb despite being about the size of a calf. When pig two got shot I could see a mist of shit blow off of him at impact. Despite it being hotter n shit and humid the image was great. There was noticeable image degradation around 0230 when the dew set in, but it was still smoking the pulsar unit and I had no issue calling deer/ no deer when we were scanning some hay pastures. The mount is still returning to zero and I haven't broken the lens cover yet so life is good. I do have a complaint about the Mod3Bs tho.

It's impossible to drink a crown and coke from a yeti cup while your driving. You gotta roll them up to hydrate, bunch of bullshit, I'm not getting a damn straw.
Do you guys carry a tripod while stalking?
 

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Do you guys carry a tripod while stalking?
Yep. I have a carbon fiber tripod (can't remember model) with a short ball head and hog saddle from Shadowtech. My partner had an unknown tripod with a hog saddle and it was significantly heavier. We also each keep a set of the Jim Shockey shooting sticks in the buggy for closer stuff, but since getting the carbon fiber tripod I haven't really screwed with it.

We keep them all the way extended in the bed of the buggy. When pigs are spotted the order of operation is slinging rifle, grab tripod and open up all legs, walk you nuts off, get to shooting spot and get on the sticks. I'm using a rapid adjustable two point sling that I don't unsling when shooting, having the sling in conjunction with the tripod is super sturdy. Once you get a few dozen reps of working the tripod in the dark it's pretty second nature, was def a learning curve to it.
 

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Yep. I have a carbon fiber tripod (can't remember model) with a short ball head and hog saddle from Shadowtech. My partner had an unknown tripod with a hog saddle and it was significantly heavier. We also each keep a set of the Jim Shockey shooting sticks in the buggy for closer stuff, but since getting the carbon fiber tripod I haven't really screwed with it.

We keep them all the way extended in the bed of the buggy. When pigs are spotted the order of operation is slinging rifle, grab tripod and open up all legs, walk you nuts off, get to shooting spot and get on the sticks. I'm using a rapid adjustable two point sling that I don't unsling when shooting, having the sling in conjunction with the tripod is super sturdy. Once you get a few dozen reps of working the tripod in the dark it's pretty second nature, was def a learning curve to it.
I'm kinda going that route now.