Have we forgotten what happened on December 7th?
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Not all of us have forgotten.
I've been to that hallowed ground. I've stood over the USS Arizona and read the name of every single sailor and Marine lost onboard her.
I've seen the occasional bit of oil come up from below. Some say it's sailors' blood.
I've been to that hallowed ground. I've stood over the USS Arizona and read the name of every single sailor and Marine lost onboard her.
I've seen the occasional bit of oil come up from below. Some say it's sailors' blood.
Nobody has forgotten, and nobody will forget. We are dealing with current enemies right here that are even more abhorrent and diabolical...
We?? Meaning? Most of the country probably was never taught about it in school. Many of the rest got the 5 minutes version. = We nuked them because they sank a couple ships in Hawaii.
Then there's the type that are members here.
Then there's the type that are members here.
Been there twice in my career. Never forget. Mac
Was busy all day today, but quite a few times I thought about it.
We should never forget, I’m sure if the left leaners would have their way they would spin it differently or strike it from the history books. My father in law fought in the Pacific and would cry during Christmas over the Japanese he killed. Thoughts and prayers for all.
We should never forget, I’m sure if the left leaners would have their way they would spin it differently or strike it from the history books. My father in law fought in the Pacific and would cry during Christmas over the Japanese he killed. Thoughts and prayers for all.
My great uncle I never got to meet SS211 lost 1944 William Ankeny they gave it a good go at it from pearl harbor to the end.
Never forget. My Grandad spent a lot of time down deep in the USS Hawkbill off the coast of Japan because of that. I spent a lot of time growing up going to sub vet memorials at Sloans Lake standing in front of the torpedo memorial with 20 layers of paint (one of them mine) on it as the vets listed off and rang the bell for every sunken sub. I'll make it out to the memorial some day.
Holes remain in the glass of Hanger 79 on a Ford Island.
Took the kids to see it all this summer...
Took the kids to see it all this summer...
Nope-never. My town has a rather large number of huge American flags that businesses fly everyday. Today they were almost all at half mast.
We lost an Uncle that day, before my time, that the Family speaks of every 7 Dec. 41.
He was an AA gunner, strafed in his position, firing the gun.
Wish I knew more about him, but time and Dementia has all but taken those that knew him.
Zeroz, I too have attended services at Sloan's Lake. The building where the torpedo is was at one time the Clubhouse for local Trapshooting. Lot of history there.
He was an AA gunner, strafed in his position, firing the gun.
Wish I knew more about him, but time and Dementia has all but taken those that knew him.
Zeroz, I too have attended services at Sloan's Lake. The building where the torpedo is was at one time the Clubhouse for local Trapshooting. Lot of history there.
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I remember a story my grandfather told me when I was young, he was friends with 2 brothers who were on the Arizona, one was below decks when the bombs were dropped and never made it out, the other brother was on deck tying his shoes when the bombs went off and was blown off the ship. Wish I knew their names. Right around the corner from my house lived a man, last name of Owens, he is still entombed in the Arizona. RIP
Will never forget. Lost a uncle that day. He went down with the Arizona. RIP to all that lost their life and bless those that fought and survived.
Very cool! I had no idea these were preserved! London is full of bomb damage remnants. But not been to HI... and need to go see Pearl someday. Thanks for posting! Really moving image!
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I couldn’t imagine going through what those men did. I watched some Pearl Harbor documentaries yesterday. It seems the government had all the information that an attack was coming and did nothing. Afterwards they blamed Admiral Kimmel and Major General Short. Both were demoted. Seems their names have just recently been cleared with the release of some classified documents.
Who is we?
Wife and I was talking about this last night. We didn't see or hear anything all day. I suppose it was because of Saturday and we had the grandboys over stayed home. Watched a little of War in the Pacific last night, I do believe this is the documentary that has a quick clip of my dads ship. My mom remembers, still has thoughts about it. My dad enlisted Navy just barely 17 (he looks 12 in his pic), served in the Pacific, while he talked about his time he didn't talk about it. God took him 1980 cancer. I found some of his pictures he took, I have his letter from President Truman, service record and some picture he took.
Wife and I was talking about this last night. We didn't see or hear anything all day. I suppose it was because of Saturday and we had the grandboys over stayed home. Watched a little of War in the Pacific last night, I do believe this is the documentary that has a quick clip of my dads ship. My mom remembers, still has thoughts about it. My dad enlisted Navy just barely 17 (he looks 12 in his pic), served in the Pacific, while he talked about his time he didn't talk about it. God took him 1980 cancer. I found some of his pictures he took, I have his letter from President Truman, service record and some picture he took.
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Yup. Been there, saw the same. Usually there are Pearl Harbor related movies and documentaries on.... this year nothing. I fear as the WWII generation finally fades away, so too will the public display of history...
There were plenty of documentaries throughout the day.
I was thinking about this. Recently I saw a picture of a huge parade in my town, with tens of thousands of people in the street. It was captioned Blue and Gray Day, and was taken in the early 1900s. I guess we remember until even the youngest children alive then are gone, then it slowly slips away to be replaced by more recent history. Sad, but it seems inevitable. As a race, we've a lot to commemorate.
It slipped by me until I went to write the date in my data book at the range yesterday, then I realized it was Pearl Harbor Day. I always think of a friend, now deceased, who was there ashore on watch that morning, and remember how he described it to me. Like the gentleman above he was only 17. He first heard the planes and was puzzled, not aware that the Navy had any air ops scheduled that early on a Sunday. Then he heard gunfire and explosions and he was REALLY puzzled that they would have a live-fire exercise early on a Sunday morning (it still wasn't sinking-in to him what was happening because it was "unthinkable"). Then he said he heard something behind him and turned to see hangar windows breaking from bullet impacts. About that time the first plane had reached him and he saw it clearly as it flew over low and close. He said, "I could see the pilot! And that's when I saw that big f***ing meatball on the side, and realized it was the Japs!" I asked what he did next. He said, "The only thing I had was a .45 so I pulled it out and aimed it at the plane but I was shaking so bad I thought I might shoot myself, so I let it down and took cover." Not really a heroic story, but an honest one from someone who was just a kid when one of the most infamous events in history happened right on top of him.
As the WWII vets die off, nd boomers enter into the late 70s and early 80s, we can stop saying never forget, as we have indeed turned an enemy into a pretty good friend over a few decades. To many of us, valiant men fought in earnest for their nations, and as warriors we remember them all. What we shall not forget is 9-11, and the over 10 years war it has become as we try to figure out how to finish it and move on. We have forged a small alliance between Gen X, Y, and Millennials who fought together in this time. Soon, it will be Gen Z saying the same thing about 9-11, becuase they will have their own never forget to deal with in the next 15 to 20 years as we begin to fade.
What would be really great is if we can just get this boogaloo thing out of the single man with many guns a a lot of ammo thing dn get to some squad hit and get tactics.
What would be really great is if we can just get this boogaloo thing out of the single man with many guns a a lot of ammo thing dn get to some squad hit and get tactics.
