Hegseth Addresses Generals

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Savages.

Should have left them in their backwards savagery.

At the very least never brought a one of them to our countries
 
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Are you insane? Armed forces should be apolitical, this was pep talk for braindead and not for some who are leaders smarter than those “elected” speachgivers. War we choose!!!! Are you on the same planet? What was said was condescending bullshit a grotesque orchestra playing while Titanic is drowning. For fucks sake this administration is killing people on boats directly without an iota of proof while same you guys where shout how can Obummer kill americans without due process. Face it dudes your two choices are rotten and what was only possible fix for US turned out to be a rotten apple. So sad really but i guess inevitable.

I feel like you are holding back.
 
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The people on the boats are not American citizens and are not entitled to due process. That is the difference
Agreed, and just a further/finer point of clarification;

Non US citizens are not entitled to any rights under the Bill of Rights, as guaranteed by the United States Constitution......

Civics is no longer taught in US schools any more, which is why so many (ignorant) American citizens do not understand this.
 
Agreed, and just a further/finer point of clarification;

Non US citizens are not entitled to any rights under the Bill of Rights, as guaranteed by the United States Constitution......

Civics is no longer taught in US schools any more, which is why so many (ignorant) American citizens do not understand this.
Unfortunately, this isn't true. Our Congress and Supreme Court settled this issue long ago.

"The Court reasoned that aliens physically present in the United States, regardless of their legal status, are recognized as persons guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments"

 
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"First there was a short-notice all generals and admirals meeting at Quantico Tuesday, following a summer of some top command firings and reshufflings, and on Wednesday The Washington Post is reporting that polygraph testing will commence for some high-placed Pentagon commanders."
 
Unfortunately, this isn't true. Our Congress and Supreme Court settled this issue long ago.

"The Court reasoned that aliens physically present in the United States, regardless of their legal status, are recognized as persons guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments"

This is a distinction that I wish more rabid team red’s would realize. Just because someone is here illegally(and brought in for nefarious reasons) doesn’t mean they should be treated like war criminals. They’re human and deserve to be treated as such until they have shown a reason to be treated like a war criminal. The people that brought them here for the nefarious reasons do, however, deserve to be treated as war criminals
 
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Non US citizens are not entitled to any rights under the Bill of Rights, as guaranteed by the United States Constitution......

Civics is no longer taught in US schools any more, which is why so many (ignorant) American citizens do not understand this.

Where did you get this information?

What civics classes did you attend?

I would suppose this is understandable if you weren’t American.
 
This is a distinction that I wish more rabid team red’s would realize. Just because someone is here illegally(and brought in for nefarious reasons) doesn’t mean they should be treated like war criminals. They’re human and deserve to be treated as such until they have shown a reason to be treated like a war criminal. The people that brought them here for the nefarious reasons do, however, deserve to be treated as war criminals
Kind of like how you should trust the illegal immigrant until he steels your stuff, rapes, or murders your loved one. You also should not be prejudiced against them due to their home society’s acceptance of terrible actions we call criminal here. It’s not so easy when the subjects of this debate have absolutely no allegiance to truth.
 
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Some here like to quote Constitution and rule of law and yet words of Trump where he clearly says that domestic peace is a task for 800 of top officers in direct violation of Constitution goes uncommented cheered even? Once you open Pandora its open for all so don’t be surprised when few years later they come for “right wing extremists”.
Everyone you elect is playing you and all sides were fucking and raping kids at Epsteins and yet the topic is dead and buried. As long its our side than all is well…
 
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Some here like to quote Constitution and rule of law and yet words of Trump where he clearly says that domestic peace is a task for 800 of top officers in direct violation of Constitution goes uncommented cheered even? Once you open Pandora its open for all so don’t be surprised when few years later they come for “right wing extremists”.
Everyone you elect is playing you and all sides were fucking and raping kids at Epsteins and yet the topic is dead and buried. As long its our side than all is well…

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Most people don't want freedom, they want to be dictators with their views enforced, hopefully by someone else so their conscience is clean.
 
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Unfortunately, this isn't true. Our Congress and Supreme Court settled this issue long ago.

"The Court reasoned that aliens physically present in the United States, regardless of their legal status, are recognized as persons guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments"

Isn't the SC hearing this again? Birthright citizenship, they aren't under the Jurisdiction of... SC overturns earlier mistakes all the time.

This is a distinction that I wish more rabid team red’s would realize. Just because someone is here illegally(and brought in for nefarious reasons) doesn’t mean they should be treated like war criminals. They’re human and deserve to be treated as such until they have shown a reason to be treated like a war criminal. The people that brought them here for the nefarious reasons do, however, deserve to be treated as war criminals
Sure, treat them like humans while in a plane back the fuck home.
 
Some here like to quote Constitution and rule of law and yet words of Trump where he clearly says that domestic peace is a task for 800 of top officers in direct violation of Constitution goes uncommented cheered even? Once you open Pandora its open for all so don’t be surprised when few years later they come for “right wing extremists”.
Everyone you elect is playing you and all sides were fucking and raping kids at Epsteins and yet the topic is dead and buried. As long its our side than all is well…
When they come for right wing extremists? JFC bud, that was on from ‘16-‘24. This is a slight pause before it ramps up again. They are now openly and happily murdering us accompanied by loud cheering from the press and most leftist politicians. Let go of your pearls.
 
Some here like to quote Constitution and rule of law and yet words of Trump where he clearly says that domestic peace is a task for 800 of top officers in direct violation of Constitution goes uncommented cheered even? Once you open Pandora its open for all so don’t be surprised when few years later they come for “right wing extremists”.
Everyone you elect is playing you and all sides were fucking and raping kids at Epsteins and yet the topic is dead and buried. As long its our side than all is well…
Nothing is well. Your presented view accomplishes nothing but making you feel personally righteous. The young and the old often fall into this trap. Also weak people and religious hermits. Imposing what they wish was true, on reality to avoid the mess that is real life.
 
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Kind of like how you should trust the illegal immigrant until he steels your stuff, rapes, or murders your loved one. You also should not be prejudiced against them due to their home society’s acceptance of terrible actions we call criminal here. It’s not so easy when the subjects of this debate have absolutely no allegiance to truth.
Not what I said. If you can’t argue against the steel man interpretation just stay on the sidelines
What part of "all enemies, foreign and domestic" is counter to the Constitution?
Nothing. But the SC has long ago established that everyone in this country is afforded the right to due process of the law. So, if illegals are going to be sent packing(I think they should) you absolutely need to make sure they truly are here illegally. There were stories of people being rounded up and sent to El Salvador that were only picked up because they had certain face tattoos. Does that sound like “due process of the law”?

Isn't the SC hearing this again? Birthright citizenship, they aren't under the Jurisdiction of... SC overturns earlier mistakes all the time.


Sure, treat them like humans while in a plane back the fuck home.
Even if the SC is hearing it again, the precedent right now is that everyone in the country has the right to due process of the law. So, treat them like humans and if they are truly here illegally send em home. I would rather the really shitty people be targeted before someone who just wants to pick strawberries and send some $$ home to their family.

And I already know the next argument. It goes something like; the people who are just picking strawberries or de-boning chickens are the low-hanging fruit.

It’s fine if you round these people up as part of some sting to get a few particularly bad people. But the longer you target the people who are here peacefully the longer the really shitty people have to cause as much damage as possible
 
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Some here like to quote Constitution and rule of law and yet words of Trump where he clearly says that domestic peace is a task for 800 of top officers in direct violation of Constitution goes uncommented cheered even? Once you open Pandora its open for all so don’t be surprised when few years later they come for “right wing extremists”.
Everyone you elect is playing you and all sides were fucking and raping kids at Epsteins and yet the topic is dead and buried. As long its our side than all is well…
The Constitution I believe in was paid in blood by my ancestors, "the text and tradition" of what they understood at the time it was adopted, not the mutated version created by "after the fact" people. Only one third of the population fought in the American Revolution, of that 1/3 somewhere between 25-35% were Ancient Britons. Some historians claim the Revolution was just a continuation of the continuous War against the Roman, Anglo-Saxon, Viking and Norman invasions by the Clans.

All the shit in this Country has been created by the Euro Trash that came after the Revolution, especially after the American Civil War and have no skin in the game nor understanding of what the fighting population understood at the time of the rebellion. This is why Country's die after 200-250 years, all the newcomers have no idea what it took create or the "why" beneath it's creation, they just want the wealth but the same shithole they came from, with no idea of what made the Wealth. You thinks it's Free, because you did not have to pay? No Free Lunch, never has been, never will be. Waving a mutated view of the Constitution does not make it true. The 2nd Amendment has gotten back to the 1791, Text, History and Tradition of the Amendment, but still the Commie Courts refuse to accept it as ruled. The Federalist Papers, do not discuss Carpetbaggers from lessor Nations destroying the Republic, it assumes assimilation to the Higher Ideal of The Republic because all the other forms of government in the history of humanity leads to a ShitHole.

Don't ShitHole my Republic, Love it or Leave it.
 
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The Constitution I believe in was paid in blood by my ancestors, "the text and tradition" of what they understood at the time it was adopted, not the mutated version created by "after the fact" people. Only one third of the population fought in the American Revolution, of that 1/3 somewhere between 25-35% were Ancient Britons. Some historians claim the Revolution was just a continuation of the continuous War against the Roman, Anglo-Saxon, Viking and Norman invasions by the Clans.

All the shit in this Country has been created by the Euro Trash that came after the Revolution, especially after the American Civil War and have no skin in the game nor understanding of what the fighting population understood at the time of the rebellion. This is why Country's die after 200-250 years, all the newcomers have no idea what it took create or the "why" beneath it's creation, they just want the wealth but the same shithole they came from, with no idea of what made the Wealth. You thinks it's Free, because you did not have to pay? No Free Lunch, never has been, never will be. Waving a mutated view of the Constitution does not make it true. The 2nd Amendment has gotten back to the 1791, Text, History and Tradition of the Amendment, but still the Commie Courts refuse to accept it as ruled. The Federalist Papers, do not discuss Carpetbaggers from lessor Nations destroying the Republic, it assumes assimilation to the Higher Ideal of The Republic because all the other forms of government in the history of humanity leads to a ShitHole.

Don't ShitHole my Republic, Love it or Leave it.
While I agree that Sharac deserved your comment...

As a Tea Party MAGA Conservative whose ancestry is half English and includes early American Navy Commodore James Barron and the first Governor of Tennessee John Sevier, a hearty Fuck You!

My staunchly Conservative Italian grandparents were so proud to come to America in the late 1800s they learned English right away and when they had kids they enforced an "English only" rule in the home that was so effective my relatives can't speak Italian!

The Melting Pot ONLY works because of full assimilation into our Constitutional Republic. Diversity and multiculturalism kill republics without full assimilation.

Without Europeans helping build America, our republic likely would have failed.

ETA: Based on British ancestry, you and I are both a tiny bit to blame because Americans with British lineage were a big reason why the disastrous Immigration & Nationality Act of 1965, and the Motor Voter Act of 1993, became laws. The INA switched us from merit based immigrants from Europe- to chain migration from Asia, the Middle East, Latin America, and Africa. The Motor Voter Act made voter registration fraud and ballot fraud much much easier.

None of us are truly 'clean', and I agree that people should love our Republic or leave it, especially Kommiefornians.
 
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Due Process of Law in the context of immigration proceedings and criminal proceedings are not the same, and in fact due process for aliens in immigration proceedings is more limited in scope than in criminal proceedings.

All that is required is a hearing in front of an immigration court or administrative panel, NOT a full blown "innocent until proven guilty" jury trial.

Once this has occurred and removal orders entered, such orders are valid until the alien is removed. They do not expire, and no further hearing is required.
 
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Well to put it into terms some of you might understand as you’re really thick. You either have rules and laws and in full or you don’t. There is not middle ground and since we want this and that we will ignore this and that part of the law. You either have morals and principles and are absolute or you don’t. Some of you here are the same pieces of shit as the lefties/liberals are, since it suits you and your thinking fuck the rest and rules. But hey to each their own go ahead kill each other off again it’s high time you experience first hand what you’ve been doing onto others… Go soviet orange!!!
 
Due Process of Law in the context of immigration proceedings and criminal proceedings are not the same, and in fact due process for aliens in immigration proceedings is more limited in scope than in criminal proceedings.

All that is required is a hearing in front of an immigration court or administrative panel, NOT a full blown "innocent until proven guilty" jury trial.

Once this has occurred and removal orders entered, such orders are valid until the alien is removed. They do not expire, and no further hearing is required.
Correct! In addition, one of the major defects of demokRats is their inability to differentiate between reality and fantasy, between the actual laws and their underpinnings, versus what they think the law is/should be. They operate on emotion and not objective facts and logic, human nature, history, the rules of economics.
 
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All the shit in this Country has been created by the Euro Trash…

I think those of us of European descent were for the most part all trash when we first infested this land.

Not what I said. If you can’t argue against the steel man interpretation just stay on the sidelines

Nothing. But the SC has long ago established that everyone in this country is afforded the right to due process of the law. So, if illegals are going to be sent packing(I think they should) you absolutely need to make sure they truly are here illegally. There were stories of people being rounded up and sent to El Salvador that were only picked up because they had certain face tattoos. Does that sound like “due process of the law”?


Even if the SC is hearing it again, the precedent right now is that everyone in the country has the right to due process of the law. So, treat them like humans and if they are truly here illegally send em home. I would rather the really shitty people be targeted before someone who just wants to pick strawberries and send some $$ home to their family.

And I already know the next argument. It goes something like; the people who are just picking strawberries or de-boning chickens are the low-hanging fruit.

It’s fine if you round these people up as part of some sting to get a few particularly bad people. But the longer you target the people who are here peacefully the longer the really shitty people have to cause as much damage as possible.

Well to put it into terms some of you might understand as you’re really thick. You either have rules and laws and in full or you don’t. There is not middle ground and since we want this and that we will ignore this and that part of the law. You either have morals and principles and are absolute or you don’t. Some of you here are the same pieces of shit as the lefties/liberals are, since it suits you and your thinking fuck the rest and rules. But hey to each their own go ahead kill each other off again it’s high time you experience first hand what you’ve been doing onto others… Go soviet orange!!!

We have long ceased to be a “country of laws.”
 
While I agree that Sharac deserved your comment...

As a Tea Party MAGA Conservative whose ancestry is half English and includes early American Navy Commodore James Barron and the first Governor of Tennessee John Sevier, a hearty Fuck You!

My staunchly Conservative Italian grandparents were so proud to come to America in the late 1800s they learned English right away and when they had kids they enforced an "English only" rule in the home that was so effective my relatives can't speak Italian!

The Melting Pot ONLY works because of full assimilation into our Constitutional Republic. Diversity and multiculturalism kill republics without full assimilation.

Without Europeans helping build America, our republic likely would have failed.

ETA: Based on British ancestry, you and I are both a tiny bit to blame because Americans with British lineage were a big reason why the disastrous Immigration & Nationality Act of 1965, and the Motor Voter Act of 1993, became laws. The INA switched us from merit based immigrants from Europe- to chain migration from Asia, the Middle East, Latin America, and Africa. The Motor Voter Act made voter registration fraud and ballot fraud much much easier.

None of us are truly 'clean', and I agree that people should love our Republic or leave it, especially Kommiefornians.
I think you misunderstood my comments. I define "EuroTrash" as those who brought Karl Marx with them, many did. I have plenty of European Blood after the fact by marriage. I am a Alta Californian, came across the Oregon Trail in 1841 with a herd of Texas Longhorns, nothing in common with the flood into California after WWII that created a one party Marxist State.

The desire to live in the Republic is Key, the EuroTrash are those who follow Marx and want an end of the Republic by twisting the meaning of the Constitution, they say "Our Democracy", because they want 51% mob rule.

I had to leave California and all my buried relatives, to enjoy a little peace in my life, that makes me angry.

So if you read insult to your Italian Grandparents, I did not in anyway shape or form mean that. I am a Ancient Brit, Bell Beaker, R1b-L21, burials of my people on that rock date to 2,300 B.C., we were in Srathclyde by the time the Romans invaded, mixed with the Celts, not British.