Sidearms & Scatterguns Home Defense Suggestions

Woolsocks

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How about some recommendations for a home defense pistol? Here’s my requirements.

1. Semi-auto, not a wheel gun
2. Must have an old-school thumb safety
3. Must be Washington state compliant
4. Full-size. It’s not for concealed carry.
5. Easy to shoot accurately.
6. Not a 1911
7. One of the common calibers (9, 10, 40, 45)
8. Would like to be able to put a laser sight on it.

I don’t care if it’s metal or plastic, don’t care how it looks, don’t care how much it weighs. My upper limit would probably be $800, but if there’s a utilitarian but reliable pistol for $400, even better.
 
That’s a good option. Was also looking at a beretta PX4. The idea of the rotary barrel reducing muzzle jump intrigues me.

Rotary barrels are cool, but they don’t really reduce recoil so much that you’d really notice… I ran a Grand Power (rotary barrel) for a couple of seasons of USPSA and they were great, they do shoot really flat, so there is something to it though.

IIRC, the Beretta rotary’s had a habit of cracking their locking blocks, but that was years ago and I never had one myself.
 
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How about some recommendations for a home defense pistol? Here’s my requirements.

1. Semi-auto, not a wheel gun
2. Must have an old-school thumb safety
3. Must be Washington state compliant
4. Full-size. It’s not for concealed carry.
5. Easy to shoot accurately.
6. Not a 1911
7. One of the common calibers (9, 10, 40, 45)
8. Would like to be able to put a laser sight on it.

I don’t care if it’s metal or plastic, don’t care how it looks, don’t care how much it weighs. My upper limit would probably be $800, but if there’s a utilitarian but reliable pistol for $400, even better.
I have written up kind of a reliability tier list before based on owning a shooting range. Given your particular list, I would recommend a CZ P-09 Nocturne F. It is DA/SA, and has an external safety/decocker. It also has a firing pin block as an added measure. It has a modern polymer frame and a reduced weight slide which gives it a very controllable recoil impulse. You can mount a red dot, light, laser on the pistol without having to send it away to get milled. We put our F model in the rental fleet when they came out and it has something like 5,500 rounds through it. We have had no problems with it of any sort. We stuck some random Holosun dot on it and it has held up as well (it has not flung the dot down the range). I think we retail it in the $525 area but routinely sell them for less than 5.

(Just because I saw it, there is a guntube guy with red hair outlaw somebody. He has crazy man love for S&W and CZ. I am pretty sure the first Nocturne he tested had some failure to feed issues. We have not experienced any problems with our pistol nor have we had customers complain about problems).

(If you had more budget, I would include HK (usp, 45, P30), I would include the Beretta 92, I would include the Sig p226).
 
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...(Just because I saw it, there is a guntube guy with red hair outlaw somebody. He has crazy man love for S&W and CZ. I am pretty sure the first Nocturne he tested had some failure to feed issues. We have not experienced any problems with our pistol nor have we had customers complain about problems)...

Honest Outlaw.
 
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