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Rifle Scopes Horus HDMR H58 vs Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm

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What say the experts? I noticed that the military discount for the HDMR H58 puts the scope at $850 and the Mark 4 3.5-10 (M3 or M5/FFP) are both about $1100 on promotive.

Assuming that I will use this as a general purpose scope for shooting 300-600 yards on a .223 or .308 caliber semi-auto platform.

The Horus scope seems like a great deal, and that's the way I was leaning. Wife wants to buy me a high end scope for our anniversary (and I won't ask her to spend over $1500 regardless.) Other brands and suggestions are welcome in the $800-1200 range.

Mark
 
Re: Horus HDMR H58 vs Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm

It's actually a bushnell elite with the horus h58 reticle in it. But the IOR or nightforce is an excellent choice too.
 
Re: Horus HDMR H58 vs Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm

If you like the Horus reticles, the HDMR is a good deal, and Bushnell has a good reputation for their Elite scopes. Your comparison is kind of apples to oranges though, the Bushnell is a 34mm tube, and a way larger mag range than the Leupold. I think the closer comparison would be the new Leupy 6.5-20 and then you're over $2000.
The HDMR is big, and heavy, so for a general purpose rifle it might not be the best option. The suggestion of a NF 2.5-10 may be a better option, or the IOR 2.5-10. I have an IOR and I love it. I have looked at the promotive deals on Leupold many times, but I think there are too many better options. BTW, if you contact NF they give a military discount.
Jason
 
Re: Horus HDMR H58 vs Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nightforce 2.5-10, IOR Valdada 2.5-10 FFP?

<span style="font-weight: bold">Horus doesn't have a good reputation at all, I don't think I'd go that route.</span></div></div>


+1 Horus doesn't have a good rep for warranty.
 
Re: Horus HDMR H58 vs Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm

Oh, the warranty disclaimer is just Horus not wanting to be responsible for repairing Bushnell scopes. A Bushnell rep on here has already stated that they would take care of warranty issues with these scopes.
 
Re: Horus HDMR H58 vs Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm

I have a hdmr in my possesion as of today. If you like the reticle you will be pleased with this kit for this price. I dont know how it tracks yet but I will not be dialing it anyway. More important is that it holds 0 for me. Good looking kit. The rear of the scope is a little long so it has to mounted pretty far foward. This will be easy for a gas gun with a Larue mount though.
my 2 cents.
T
 
Re: Horus HDMR H58 vs Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: toddconley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a hdmr in my possesion as of today. If you like the reticle you will be pleased with this kit for this price. I dont know how it tracks yet but I will not be dialing it anyway. More important is that it holds 0 for me. Good looking kit. The rear of the scope is a little long so it has to mounted pretty far foward. This will be easy for a gas gun with a Larue mount though.
my 2 cents.
T </div></div>

Got any pics?

The stats I saw said it's a foot long and weighs two pounds so about like my IOR 3-18 in size I would wager.
 
Re: Horus HDMR H58 vs Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm

I do like the reticle, I have found that I don't mind shooting offsets, which is something the Horus reticles make pretty trivial.

Keep the good information coming, support makes a difference and the fact that Bushnell is willing to stand behind it makes me a little more comfortable. I realize that I would give up some magnification and spend a bit more to enjoy the Leupold scope.

I think it's the recticle that really attracts me for it's ability to help make offset shots easy.
 
Re: Horus HDMR H58 vs Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm

Here are some pics from thread here. Mine looks like this one of course. http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...206#Post2509206

It is a realy nice scope for the money. I just bought a USO with the Horus reticle in it. I wish I had spend my money on three of these insted. Of well. Time will tell the durability. Im no operator so I think it is more than enough scope for me. I doubt there are many guys here betting their life on it. Bu time will tell..
 
Re: Horus HDMR H58 vs Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm

At 800$ I might take a chance on that assuming you like the reticle and the power range. I hate buying stuff without at least seeing it in person before hand though.
 
Re: Horus HDMR H58 vs Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm

You active duty guys are paying half as much as us retired/former military guys will have to pay. toddconley, you might want to sell that USO and pour whatever money you get into a few more HDMR's. Heck, you could make almost twice what you paid for those scopes. Then again, you'll have to find someone willing to pay $1600 for an HDMR!
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Re: Horus HDMR H58 vs Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm

hopefully it will turn out to be ok - if it's anything like the test lowlight did on the elite 4200 3-12 ffp - then i will be pleased!
 
Re: Horus HDMR H58 vs Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm

We discusses buying multiples of these and quickly desided it would be very bad etiquette and karma would probably catch up at some point.
 
Re: Horus HDMR H58 vs Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: toddconley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We discusses buying multiples of these and quickly desided it would be very bad etiquette and karma would probably catch up at some point. </div></div>
Good call there Todd! Nice to see someone has an ethical mindset.
 
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