How about we have a thread about the "paranormal"?

[LuckyDuck]

Before I get into the introductions- a bit of "housekeeping" on the topic. The subject of "paranormal" might elicit images of folks wearing tinfoil hats but at the root/etymology of the term- all that the term "paranormal" means (academically at least) is topics that are beyond scientific explanation. Nothing more & nothing less, it's just subjects/topics/experiences that aren't (yet) able to be explained.

That being said now- I suppose I've always had an interest in the 'paranormal' but almost always from a curiosity point of view rather than from personal experiences. The closest I can relate to would be frequent deja vu experiences. But this topic has always been of interest to me-

I've started posts here asking for ghost stories. Not necessarily because I personally believe in ghosts but more so because I'm enthralled with the history behind those stories. Reckon that growing up just outside of Gettysburg helped to form that curiosity. I used to be a voracious reader, reading all sorts of published stories about ghosts & pirates (among other topics).

I'm not sure I believe 'ghosts' exist intellectually but I still find those stories fascinating, I also love the supposed video footage "proving" shadow figures/whatever exist in certain structures/locations. Again, it's primarily because I find the history/story as the explanation as being of the most interest to me personally.

One element of the paranormal though that I do permit myself some leeway in being more openminded is when it comes to space, time, extraterrestrials, things of that nature. I'd like to think that there's an intellectual element to my belief in being open minded on the subjects but that's just me (and open for argument).

BUT- on the topic, it's said that there's more stars in the sky than grains of sand on Earth. So, in my minds eye, it would be more than plausible to believe that each of those stars a multitude of planets in their orbit/solar system. And each of those planets likely has moons. The vastness of this rabbit hole is just mind boggling for a simpleton such as myself. But the numbers are just... astronomical and to believe that life exists ONLY here... on Earth alone, in our solar system, I just can't help but find that mathematically implausible.

I'd also argue that being open to the belief of "aliens" from the perspective previously mentioned is not the same as believing that little green men keep visiting earth and are abducting humans & colluding with local governments who are covering up their involvement for decades. All I'm offering is the belief that (in my mind) mathematically there HAS to be multicellular organisms inhabiting the galaxy/universe. On the subject- I've also always considered our 'table of elements' which shapes science as we know it and wondered if the same elements/rules would exist on other planets/moons/solar systems (I lean towards there being a high probability where it doesn't/ even our understanding of life being carbon based may be changed with the gravitational influences in other solar systems.

Enough rambling from me now- anyone else think about/have an opinion on the paranormal?

-LD

 

[Maser]

Got banned from the /x/ board?

 

[LuckyDuck]

Got banned from the /x/ board?

Not sure what that means... I know Reddit is "/r/" prefix, similar site I reckon?

-LD

 

[LuckyDuck]

Just to elaborate on what I'm trying to communicate here tonight- the concept of "UFO's". It'd seem to my understanding that became a "thing" primarily in the 1950's and all sorts of disinformation got tied to it (amongst which was the 'little green men' element).

I still hold the opinion that a UFO is just what the acronym states- an unidentified flying object. To my mind at least- it'd make perfect sense during that timeframe (when aviation was exploding technology & design wise) that governments would try to underplay/dismiss sightings of the (at the time) experimental aircraft. The extraterrestrial angle though- that's a bit odd (assuming the coverup was all by design).

It's important (for me at least) to remember that worlds/technology was about to have a major shift, one of which warrants it's own discussion but here you have a photo (photography itself being monumental) of worlds colliding. A solider on horseback watching a plan soar overhead. Roswell... all that UFO "stuff" for that matter, would be only 30 years later... in historical terms, the proverbial "blink of an eye".

-LD

 

[Makinchips208]

I would delete this thread and be careful…

 

[Bullfrog08]

When you consider the light spectrum our eyes can see, the frequency our ears can hear, the odor our nose can smell, and the things our brain can process, it probably leaves a lot of paranormal activity to be seen, heard, smelled, etc.

For something slightly more advanced than humans, the paranormal is probably normal.

 

[Maser]

Elves are real!

 

[Alphatreedog]

Abbi someone .

 

[Ronws]

Abbi someone .
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Abbie Normal...

 

[Mudburner]

When you consider the light spectrum our eyes can see, the frequency our ears can hear, the odor our nose can smell, and the things our brain can process, it probably leaves a lot of paranormal activity to be seen, heard, smelled, etc.

For something slightly more advanced than humans, the paranormal is probably normal.

In my opinion, this expresses the situation very well.

Also in my opinion, people who have never experienced a paranormal/supernatural/spiritual/religious event seem to downplay or outright deny the existance or reality of these things.

I can't prove that God/Jesus/the Holy Spirit/angels/Satan/demons etc. exist, and nobody can prove they don't. Same for space aliens. Science acknowledges (as above) that things exist that humans can't see, hear, perceive, etc. Yet people REFUSE to even consider that God is real.

Again, in my opinion, I think that having a free will, they just choose not to submit to Him. (Shrugs shoulders)

 

[Ronws]

Speaking of paranormal, I knew this thread would arise.

You are welcome interwebs.

FWIW, and having been a sci-fi fan since the mid-70s, I think most UFOs are experimental aircraft. Having grown up around the military, I got to know about the SR-71 Blackbird before public information release which, of course, does not detail all the capabilities of the aircraft.

So, also, look at drones. Or even Harrier craft. Those didn't just jump off the line ready to go. I am not against the idea of aliens surveiling us and they may very well be doing that.

But I also know that humans are sneaky bastards.

Ghosts do exist. At a time in my life when I did not have any room for religion or thoughts of faith, I have been visited by people close to me who were deceased. One was a friend who was murdered. The other one was my first wife. And these were singular visits. They visited to comfort me and to say goodbye and then left, never to return, on to the next stage of whatever.

If it happened all the time, I would consider it to be a recurring hallucination.

 

[MWAlex2]

We like to think that our perception encompasses all of reality, hence the phrase "perception is reality", but perception is also a matter of exposure and acceptance. If there is a God and Satan and a hereafter there must be a paranormal. Because we do not see something does not mean that is does not exist. As far as aliens are concerned, with all of the planets in the universe I think it is statistically impossible that we are the only sentient species. If we are I think that is sad.

 

[Redlion]

 

[Maggot]

Speaking of paranormal, I knew this thread would arise.

You are welcome interwebs.

FWIW, and having been a sci-fi fan since the mid-70s, I think most UFOs are experimental aircraft. Having grown up around the military, I got to know about the SR-71 Blackbird before public information release which, of course, does not detail all the capabilities of the aircraft.

So, also, look at drones. Or even Harrier craft. Those didn't just jump off the line ready to go. I am not against the idea of aliens surveiling us and they may very well be doing that.

But I also know that humans are sneaky bastards.

Ghosts do exist. At a time in my life when I did not have any room for religion or thoughts of faith, I have been visited by people close to me who were deceased. One was a friend who was murdered. The other one was my first wife. And these were singular visits. They visited to comfort me and to say goodbye and then left, never to return, on to the next stage of whatever.

If it happened all the time, I would consider it to be a recurring hallucination.

I've had several of those visits. My father, grandmother, and an old friend.

I usually dont talk about them because those who havent had them are unable to accept the truth.

 

[232593]

light spectrum

Don’t forget polarization & spectral resolution.

 

[232593]

but I still find those stories fascinating

Same

 

[79steeler]

Speaking of paranormal, I knew this thread would arise.

You are welcome interwebs.

FWIW, and having been a sci-fi fan since the mid-70s, I think most UFOs are experimental aircraft. Having grown up around the military, I got to know about the SR-71 Blackbird before public information release which, of course, does not detail all the capabilities of the aircraft.

So, also, look at drones. Or even Harrier craft. Those didn't just jump off the line ready to go. I am not against the idea of aliens surveiling us and they may very well be doing that.

But I also know that humans are sneaky bastards.

Ghosts do exist. At a time in my life when I did not have any room for religion or thoughts of faith, I have been visited by people close to me who were deceased. One was a friend who was murdered. The other one was my first wife. And these were singular visits. They visited to comfort me and to say goodbye and then left, never to return, on to the next stage of whatever.

If it happened all the time, I would consider it to be a recurring hallucination.

My Dad was visited by his parents on a horseback ride one time. He said they appeared and were floating along side of him as he road thru the forest. He was able to comunicate with them, they said they always wanted to see what he experianced while riding his horse thru the woods and they said they were allowed this visit to see him, say goodbye. They had been deceased for years. The entire thing lasted less than 5 min. His friend Mickey who was riding behind my Dad kept trying to get his attention, but during this time my Dad would not acknowledge him. Then my Dad told Mickey what happened in great detail. My Dad is the most sane person Ive ever known.

 

[mtwarych]

The evening of my Mom's burial, my Mom returned to tell me that I need to take care of my Dad. I was surprised at the emotion in her voice. There is no doubt, in my experiance, that it was my Mother talking to me.

I have an older gentleman who has followed me from my high school house to my house in Montana. I have a rocker that rocks by itself. He has been with my family for 45 years. My wife and kids have seen the old man and they saw the rocker rocking by itself. I believe he is somehow connected to an Oak rocker that came from my Dad. My Dad is not the old man who rocks the rocking chair in my house. I know this because my Dad was allive when the "Old man" started visiting. I believe it may be my Grandfather from my Dad's side of the family.

As for miracles, I was driving home after work one day when a black labrador ran out in front of me and I had to brake hard to miss it. The split second I stopped, a young lady riding a bike that was too big for her, ran straight across the road in front of me. I know that if that dog didn't run across the road, I would have hit and run over the young lady. I had driven the same road for 3 years straight and never saw a dog or a little girl on that part of the road.

 

[JJMoody]

Be careful. The spirit world is just as, if not more real than the physical world we are able to experience. For those who believe the Bible, it is well documented (at least in a few affirmative passages and many negative passages) that mediums etc…. Exist and are operative, albeit strictly forbidden. Some who study demonology will tell you that spirits of loved ones returning aren’t the spirits of them, but of a “Familiar Spirit “. One who was associated/ assigned to that particular person, knows them well and are able to “know things that only that person would know”. Those spirits can start out “benevolent” and “kind”, playing a long game to eventually lead the person they’re appearing to/influencing astray. It’s extremely cruel and honestly best to not mess around with regardless of how comforting it feels at the time.

 

[MO Fugga]

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How tiring.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

That being said now- I suppose I've always had an interest in the 'paranormal' but almost always from a curiosity point of view rather than from personal experiences. The closest I can relate to would be frequent deja vu experiences. But this topic has always been of interest to me-



BUT- on the topic, it's said that there's more stars in the sky than grains of sand on Earth. So, in my minds eye, it would be more than plausible to believe that each of those stars a multitude of planets in their orbit/solar system. And each of those planets likely has moons. The vastness of this rabbit hole is just mind boggling for a simpleton such as myself. But the numbers are just... astronomical and to believe that life exists ONLY here... on Earth alone, in our solar system, I just can't help but find that mathematically implausible.

I was skeptical until I experienced it my self.

Yes, it's highly probable, than not, there is life out out side of our atmosphere, solar system, galaxy and potentially into other unknowns. We are no where near fully understanding this place in which we exist and what lies beyond in places we can not perceive

 

[mtwarych]

When everything rots away and returns to basic elements, the only thing left is that bit of electricity that made us function. You know, heartbeat, muscle movement etc. etc.

I truly believe there is a Supreme Being.

I believe our soul is made from that electricty and that is what we "see" when a ghost or goblin goes scurrying by.

 

[Maggot]

The evening of my Mom's burial, my Mom returned to tell me that I need to take care of my Dad. I was surprised at the emotion in her voice. There is no doubt, in my experiance, that it was my Mother talking to me.

I have an older gentleman who has followed me from my high school house to my house in Montana. I have a rocker that rocks by itself. He has been with my family for 45 years. My wife and kids have seen the old man and they saw the rocker rocking by itself. I believe he is somehow connected to an Oak rocker that came from my Dad. My Dad is not the old man who rocks the rocking chair in my house. I know this because my Dad was allive when the "Old man" started visiting. I believe it may be my Grandfather from my Dad's side of the family.

As for miracles, I was driving home after work one day when a black labrador ran out in front of me and I had to brake hard to miss it. The split second I stopped, a young lady riding a bike that was too big for her, ran straight across the road in front of me. I know that if that dog didn't run across the road, I would have hit and run over the young lady. I had driven the same road for 3 years straight and never saw a dog or a little girl on that part of the road.

When my maternal grandmother passed I felt all this grief start to well up inside so I stepped outside for a breath of fresh air. Just as I got outside she appeared to me, her torso surrounded by this golden light. She looked at me and said clearly, "Dont grieve, its so much better here, so much better, dont grieve." Then the vision faded. Since then I've not feared death...the pain an suffering that often lead to it, yes, but leaving this world, not for a second.

A buddy committed suicide, and I started feeling like I should visit his son, so I did. I took him to another friend's place, the guy who ah introduced Jimmy and I. We grilled some burgers and drank some beer. I had to piss and stepped behind a bush. Just as I did I caught a sparkle on a drop of dew on the grass and Jimmy was there. He just looked at me and said "Thanks." then that was the end of it.

 

[Maggot]

Be careful. The spirit world is just as, if not more real than the physical world we are able to experience. For those who believe the Bible, it is well documented (at least in a few affirmative passages and many negative passages) that mediums etc…. Exist and are operative, albeit strictly forbidden. Some who study demonology will tell you that spirits of loved ones returning aren’t the spirits of them, but of a “Familiar Spirit “. One who was associated/ assigned to that particular person, knows them well and are able to “know things that only that person would know”. Those spirits can start out “benevolent” and “kind”, playing a long game to eventually lead the person they’re appearing to/influencing astray. It’s extremely cruel and honestly best to not mess around with regardless of how comforting it feels at the time.

I've read about all that, but when you have a true experience you know that you know that you know. See mine in another post.

 

[Maggot]

When everything rots away and returns to basic elements, the only thing left is that bit of electricity that made us function. You know, heartbeat, muscle movement etc. etc.

I truly believe there is a Supreme Being.

I believe our soul is made from that electricty and that is what we "see" when a ghost or goblin goes scurrying by.

The soul is far more than just electricity.

 

[JJMoody]

I've read about all that, but when you have a true experience you know that you know that you know. See mine in another post.

Yessir. Saw your other post. I’d rather stay out of these types of conversations while typing on a phone. More often than not, especially amongst believers for “some reason”, there’s just division that gets slung around and someone outside the body of Christ watching gets turned way off seeing Christians arguing like a bunch of children (with the greatest of intentions). I certainly don’t know much about it other than;
It’s real
It exists and
It’s not always as benevolent as it comes across as.

 

[LuckyDuck]

When you consider the light spectrum our eyes can see, the frequency our ears can hear, the odor our nose can smell, and the things our brain can process, it probably leaves a lot of paranormal activity to be seen, heard, smelled, etc.

For something slightly more advanced than humans, the paranormal is probably normal.

That's an excellent point and on of which I completely agree with.

 

[BurtG]

I owned a house that had things going on for sure.

Never believed in that stuff till I experienced it

 

[ironpony52]

I was still born and passed once after that, not looking for a third time. My paranormal started about 5 years old and was fairly well documented by my parents. There always was way to much factual detail which was verifiable to be a boy telling stories. I still have regular encounters only one of which has ever been negative.
They are pretty long stories and I am not much of a typer so when I get some time I will try to tell a few of the better ones.

 

[Makinchips208]

A few years after my dad passed away, my an aunt was walking through the store and a head of cabbage fell of the produce stand and rolled in front of her. She swears that my dad talked to her out of the head of cabbage, and told her to tell us that he is ok and looking out for us.



This aunt is certifiably crazy. One son was taken by the state, another is in a mental institute, etc.

But yeah i do believe that weird unexplainable things do happen.