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How dare you!

Yes, indeed. Fossil fuel was not imported from another low-wage planet by evil capitalists.

It came out of the atmosphere as predominantly CO2 during the Carboniferous period that we estimate to have lasted from 359 - 298 million years ago (MYA) based on carbon dating of fossils found.

Roughly 182 million years before that (541 MYA) the Cambrian explosion occurred where "DNA got its act together" and life took off from simple single-cell stuff to the complex organisms of our ancestors. There was an explosion in complexity, diversity, and volume of life on this planet - while the carbon of fossil fuel was still in the atmosphere as CO2.

Can someone other than a teenage sock puppet please explain to me in scientific terms how releasing a fraction of that carbon(dioxide) back into the atmosphere will force life to call it quits on this planet.

Lol, it won’t, hence the big lie...250MYA, the Permian Triassic mass extinction nearly ended life on earth...causes were many but primarily the release of incomprehensible amounts of CO2 and methane over a 100,000 year period from basalt flood vulcanism in present day Siberia (see Siberian Traps). It would take humans literally 10’s of millions of years to even come close to emitting those quantities (and hundreds of times more fossils fuel reserves then we actually have).

Even with that much greenhouse gas forcing, Earth still did not enter a “moist greenhouse” which is the precursor to a run away (the thing leftists keep screaming about)

Appx 750MM - 1B YFN we will likely enter a moist greenhouse due to the evolution of the sun (it’s expected to be 10% brighter at a +1% per increase in luminosity per every 100MM years ). The moist greenhouse will likely end all complex life on earth but microbes will remain for prob another billion years until a runaway happens and earth essentially turns into Venus (all co2 locked up in crustal rocks gets released)

This puts into perspective the extent the left will go to bullshit the population.

Unfortunately all too many are willing to swallow it whole and wash it down with a full glass of population control.
 
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You may want to look up how fuel/oil/gas was named/classified a "fossil fuel".
I've lived long enough to see predictions of ice ages and now "run away greenhouse effect".
I wonder why most are neglecting to realize their predictions are failing?
Only constant in this game is a money stream.
See ozone depletion.

R

as you say, only constant in this game is the money stream, yep, sho nuff
 
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Lol, it won’t, hence the big lie...250MYA, the Permian Triassic mass extinction nearly ended life on earth...causes were many but primarily the release of incomprehensible amounts of CO2 and methane over a 100,000 year period from basalt flood vulcanism in present day Siberia (see Siberian Traps). It would take humans literally 10’s of millions of years to even come close to emitting those quantities (and hundreds of times more fossils fuel reserves then we actually have).

Even with that much greenhouse gas forcing, Earth still did not enter a “moist greenhouse” which is the precursor to a run away (the thing leftists keep screaming about)

Appx 750MM - 1B YFN we will likely enter a moist greenhouse due to the evolution of the sun (it’s expected to be 10% brighter at a +1% per increase in luminosity per every 100MM years ). The moist greenhouse will likely end all complex life on earth but microbes will remain for prob another billion years until a runaway happens and earth essentially turns into Venus (all co2 locked up in crustal rocks gets released)

This puts into perspective the extent the left will go to bullshit the population.

Unfortunately all too many are willing to swallow it whole and wash it down with a full glass of population control.
I purposely did not get into other reservoirs of greenhouse gases that have nothing to do with fossil fuel burning or not. We have no control over those, so why bother.

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Appx 750MM - 1B YFN we will likely enter a moist greenhouse due to the evolution of the sun (it’s expected to be 10% brighter at a +1% per increase in luminosity per every 100MM years ). The moist greenhouse will likely end all complex life on earth but microbes will remain for prob another billion years until a runaway happens and earth essentially turns into Venus (all co2 locked up in crustal rocks gets released)
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In the long run, this planet and the solar system is fucked because of the sun's journey.

However, 750 million years is plenty of time to miniaturize the sun's principle of energy generation (fusion), find a wormhole, and head off to other beaches.

Unfortunately, the Left is not only against fossil fuel but also against nuclear fission (admittedly a temporary, unsustainable hack) and fusion. Why would anyone sane be content with capturing a fraction of the sun's energy with panels and blades if you could replicate/own the source of the sun's energy. This would be like living on welfare vs. making it on your own. Just another example of how deeply flawed and evil their ideology is.

Trigger warning! The following science brush-up contains small doses of geek stuff. It may blow up your head. You have been warned

Fission: Big, heavy atoms like Uranium-235 are unstable and release thermal energy and neutrons when they fall apart. The neutrons can be used to cause other U-235 atoms to break apart, cause other U-235 atoms to break apart and so on in a chain reaction. Every breakup of any heavy atom into several lighter atoms releases energy that we capture in conventional nuclear fission reactors. Problem is that you have to control the vigor of the chain reaction and -here's the real bitch- that the neutrons whizzing around create a slew of other radioactive isotopes (unstable atoms). Those will continue to decay (break apart) and release energy long after the chain reaction has stopped. This 'post chain reaction' energy release blew Fukushima apart. Chernobyl was an excursion where the chain reaction ran away for fractions of seconds. Three Mile Island was an issue similar to Fukushima that was stopped early enough.

Fusion: You start with very light atoms like Hydrogen and force them close enough together that they combine to heavier atoms like Helium. This fusion of atoms also releases energy. That's where the sun's light and all its other energy comes from. We have already replicated this process in labs. What we are currently figuring out is to make this self-sustaining so that the amount of energy released is larger than the insane amount of energy you need to initiate atomic fusion. The sun uses the gravitational forces resulting from its huge mass to compress the atoms, we have to use other methods that consume energy. But we are getting closer to reaching break-even on a large prototype scale. The advantage here is that this process is self-extinguishing. Not entirely harmless in terms of radiation but at least not the dance with the devil that fission is.
 
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Trigger warning! The following science brush-up contains small doses of geek stuff. It may blow up your head. You have been warned

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“I purposely did not get into other reservoirs of greenhouse gases that have nothing to do with fossil fuel burning or not. We have no control over those, so why bother.”

Think you missed the point with that...Point was that, even when you DO account for all other sources of greenhouse gases released at that time, you still don’t get anywhere near a runaway condition, which is what the left would have everyone believe will happen with fossil fuel emissions alone.

No matter. As to your other points:
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“I purposely did not get into other reservoirs of greenhouse gases that have nothing to do with fossil fuel burning or not. We have no control over those, so why bother.”

Think you missed the point with that...Point was that, even when you DO account for all other sources of fossil fuels released at that time, you still don’t get anywhere near a runaway condition, which is what the left would have everyone believe will happen with fossil fuel emissions alone.

No matter. As to your other points:
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No worries, we are on the same page.

I just wanted to point out another insanity in the Left's 'energy policy' by bringing up fission and fusion.

My suggestion would be:
Business as usual with fossil plus use of solar and wind where it makes sense and does not cost too much. Keep the nukes running and maybe even deploy new, more modern ones if needed. Solar, wind, and nukes should be seen as ways to save oil for applications where it is currently irreplaceable like propelling large airplanes and ships, production of polymers/ pharmaceuticals, etc.

Every other penny and brain cycle should go into fusion as this the only sustainable option. Once we have fusion here on earth we can synthesize anything we need (like earth did over millions of years via solar energy) and if oil runs out one day, so what. With cheap, abundant energy we could literally make gold from lead if needed. Energy is the mother of all resources.

The argument that there is 'enough' energy coming from the sun which we should just capture and distribute more fairly is just as flawed as the promise that handouts to everyone could be financed by taxing the upper 1%. Ain't going to happen in a world of competing self-interest and will also not fix the problem of finite oil-based precursors for our industry. We need and deserve a whole lot more than hand-outs. Whether these hand-outs come from the sun or the elitists does not matter.
 
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Magnetosphere is exponentially weakening, minor solar winds and coronal mass ejections having more impact where as before they were largely shielded.

Cant pin that to carbon credits though so its not mainstreamed.

Get a lot of headaches, irrationally irritable episodes since 2011?

Well look up.
 
Get a lot of headaches, irrationally irritable episodes since 2011?

Well look up.

My headaches and above symptoms occurred more frequently between nov 2008-nov 2016 as well as now, given all the fucking attacks on our rights and political charades driven by less than worthless politicians and Marxist interests.

To your point, the earth’s magnetic pole is in the process of flipping, wreaking the overall field strength. Occurs every few hundred thousand years but doesn’t seem to have a significant impact on the biosphere.

That won’t stop the left from trying to spin it otherwise, telling us we need to ban the sun due to all those scary flares.
 
Yes, indeed. Fossil fuel was not imported from another low-wage planet by evil capitalists.

It originated from the atmosphere's CO2 during the Carboniferous period that we estimate to have lasted from 359 - 298 million years ago (MYA) based on carbon dating of fossils found.

Roughly 182 million years before that (541 MYA) the Cambrian explosion occurred where "DNA got its act together" and life took off from simple single-cell stuff to the complex organisms of our ancestors. There was an explosion in complexity, diversity, and volume of life on this planet - while the carbon of the future fossil fuel was still in the atmosphere as CO2.

Can someone other than a teenage sock puppet please explain to me - in scientific terms - how releasing a fraction of that carbon(dioxide) back into the atmosphere will force life to call it quits on this planet.

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I've lived long enough to see predictions of ice ages and now "run away greenhouse effect".
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Yes, the terms 'anthropogenic (i.e. man-made) global warming' and 'green house effect' appeared when we were concerned about a little ice age we might be in.

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See ozone depletion.
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Ozone depletion from CFCs is a different beast. There is no natural process like photosynthesis that can sequester these chemicals. Chlorinated Fluorocarbons never existed before we cooked them up in a lab. Stuff like this CAN wipe us out if used carelessly. Ionizing radiation, like UV not filtered out by Ozone, is a long-term bitch for life. Organisms can adapt to all sorts of environmental changes but once the DNA is attacked, you are in a different pickle.

After the entire CFC debacle was another bs scheme to move over to R143a. After years of much hand wringing they finally admitted
that the hole in the ozone was naturally occuring. I've noticed we haven't burned up yet.
While there are fossil fuels I don't include oil as one of them. The presence of oil much deeper than fossils leaves much
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R
 
Getting lectured on American fossil fuels by Sleepy and Alpine is like getting muscle car advice from Greta Thunberg – “How dare you not select the Dodge Charger with the 440 hemi! How dare you!”

her idea of a muscle car
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id stop making fun of her for a day if I learned she even knows what a Hemi is.
 
Getting lectured on American fossil fuels by Sleepy and Alpine is like getting muscle car advice from Greta Thunberg – “How dare you not select the Dodge Charger with the 440 hemi! How dare you!”
WTF? Please re-read what I posted. I tried to educate you guys about the geological and physical/chemical facts so you know when the Left is trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

My guilt-free carbon footprint is easily twice as big as yours with boats and until recently airplanes. The fun was/is worth every gallon. I silently thank every Prius driver for leaving more in the pump for me. But I do heat my house with 'renewable' wood because otherwise I would have to burn even more of the stuff in piles. I hope that's excusable.
 
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WTF? Please re-read what I posted. I tried to educate you guys about the geological and physical/chemical facts so you know when the Left is trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

My guilt-free carbon footprint is easily twice as big as yours with boats and until recently airplanes. The fun was/is worth every gallon. I silently thank every Prius driver for leaving more in the pump for me. But I do heat my house with 'renewable' wood because otherwise I would have to burn even more of the stuff in piles. I hope that's excusable.

You should know then that the "geologic record" is not confirmed by carbon dating.
We know the fossils are dated by rock layer in which they reside, and the layer is dated by the fossils that reside in that layer.
Carbon dating has never passed scientific method muster. It only works when theoretic assumptions are made about carbon 14 degradation.
 
Lol, it won’t, hence the big lie...250MYA, the Permian Triassic mass extinction nearly ended life on earth...causes were many but primarily the release of incomprehensible amounts of CO2 and methane over a 100,000 year period from basalt flood vulcanism in present day Siberia (see Siberian Traps). It would take humans literally 10’s of millions of years to even come close to emitting those quantities (and hundreds of times more fossils fuel reserves then we actually have).

Even with that much greenhouse gas forcing, Earth still did not enter a “moist greenhouse” which is the precursor to a run away (the thing leftists keep screaming about)

Appx 750MM - 1B YFN we will likely enter a moist greenhouse due to the evolution of the sun (it’s expected to be 10% brighter at a +1% per increase in luminosity per every 100MM years ). The moist greenhouse will likely end all complex life on earth but microbes will remain for prob another billion years until a runaway happens and earth essentially turns into Venus (all co2 locked up in crustal rocks gets released)

This puts into perspective the extent the left will go to bullshit the population.

Unfortunately all too many are willing to swallow it whole and wash it down with a full glass of population control.


But but but......the earth is less than 10,000 years old and will end any day now.:p
 
Ironic. The environmentalist she is having her picture on the front of thousands of copies of TIME magazine....printed from countless trees.
 
Nasty looking bananas! :sick:
As she sits stuffing her fat smug little proselytizing face on a train.... with more food than one person needs in 2 days...

Bet these kids are really upset that someone is stealing 'her' childhood by driving pickup trucks and running smelly diesel tractors instead of solar cars and ox-plows.

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You know how these kids... the ones that survive to age 12, that is... will get food? They will get fed by picking up an AK-47 and working for the local warlord for food and drugs... protecting a diamond mine or an illegal dump where they are recycling electronics by fire.



Why isn't this smug little puppet down in Africa lecturing them? Oh, yeah, because that will get her shot! And, besides, noone is going to put her up in the Four Seasons and feed her fat little face with organic filet mignon flown in from Argentina.

She is such an amazingly perfect representation of the hypocrisy of the so-called Green Movement. Because the reality is that they simply want to limit your opportunity... while making their own positions that much more cushy and rewarding. Ask Al Gore... is he a billionaire yet?

In disgust,

Sirhr
 
.......And the volcano that just recently erupted in New Zealand??? How can we put an end to volcanic pollution, Greta???

Also, will someone please make a Hansel and Greta meme, with Soros (or other appropriate financial backer) as Hansel?
 
As she sits stuffing her fat smug little proselytizing face on a train.... with more food than one person needs in 2 days...

Bet these kids are really upset that someone is stealing 'her' childhood by driving pickup trucks and running smelly diesel tractors instead of solar cars and ox-plows.

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You know how these kids... the ones that survive to age 12, that is... will get food? They will get fed by picking up an AK-47 and working for the local warlord for food and drugs... protecting a diamond mine or an illegal dump where they are recycling electronics by fire.



Why isn't this smug little puppet down in Africa lecturing them? Oh, yeah, because that will get her shot! And, besides, noone is going to put her up in the Four Seasons and feed her fat little face with organic filet mignon flown in from Argentina.

She is such an amazingly perfect representation of the hypocrisy of the so-called Green Movement. Because the reality is that they simply want to limit your opportunity... while making their own positions that much more cushy and rewarding. Ask Al Gore... is he a billionaire yet?

In disgust,

Sirhr

Wow,that video is an eye opener
 
These anthropogenic climate change, religious fanatics are nothing but ignorant fools. You can obliterate their religious convictions with simple scientific facts. Next time you run into one of these, “‘cuz science” retards ask them a few simple questions about their BELIEFS:
Do you know the composition of the atmosphere? How much CO2 do you believe is in it? What gas in our atmosphere traps the most heat? Which one the least?

Of course, they have no idea what even the most basic facts behind their preposterous hypothesis even are. Neither priests nor parishioners Can explain why a trace gas, that is at best a mediocre greenhouse gas, is controlling the largest, most complex, observable natural system possible. The premise is absurd, but they really had no other choice, because the real greenhouse gas (water vapor) has NOTHING to do with man’s activity, and cannot be an excuse for totalitarianism.

Make no mistake. AGCC is about misanthropy plain and simple. If you hate mankind already, blaming us for destroying the surface of this rock, and wanting us to implement a totalitarian system on humans to make them suffer for it is all part of the same mental pathology.

The Earth may be warming a bit, but the odds that CO2 is causing it (and not that nearby star putting out 3.8 x 10 to the 26th Joules per second) is zero. It simply defies the basic facts of the premise.

isn’t it ironic that those who hate humanity the most, and most want to rule and control people, also place man at the center of the universe?

You will never convince someone who holds deep religious beliefs. It’s best just to demonstrate what an assclown they are, and then shoot them in the face when the time comes...and it will come. Totalitarians ALLWAYS resort to violence. That is indeed the point of their ideology and philosophy....violence and misanthropy.
 
I would say it’s 50/50 that in 5 years she is a tiddy bar dancer.

That will be her green new deal. 1’s and 5’s. Maybe Soros will even slip her a 20.
 
And the Mongoloid little meat puppet is at it again... calling politicians to be shot!


Of course, she doesn’t mean the socialist woke ones... And naturally she said it was only a translation error... she meant to say they should be ‘held accountable.’

Come to think of it... not a bad idea. Let’s start with the ‘woke’ ones!

On the bright side, this little twat is the gift that keeps on giving. Like Ocasio-Cortez without the Carmen Miranda hat... a kind of Hitler-jungen for sea turtles... she is showing what eco-socialism and tree-hugger terrorism looks like in the brainwashed and easily-led.

Sirhr
 
And the Mongoloid little meat puppet is at it again... calling politicians to be shot!


Of course, she doesn’t mean the socialist woke ones... And naturally she said it was only a translation error... she meant to say they should be ‘held accountable.’

Come to think of it... not a bad idea. Let’s start with the ‘woke’ ones!

On the bright side, this little twat is the gift that keeps on giving. Like Ocasio-Cortez without the Carmen Miranda hat... a kind of Hitler-jungen for sea turtles... she is showing what eco-socialism and tree-hugger terrorism looks like in the brainwashed and easily-led.

Sirhr
If putting world leaders that don't agree with her politics [up against the wall] was a translation error why was she speaking in English? I'm not buying it.
 
I honestly hope this girl is just a troll. So much of the shit she's been saying just screams of it!
Hummm.... Say, what if we bought Maser a sailboat and sent him around the world screaming Bloomberg slogans and calling for all AK’s to be turned into Priuses and ukuleles....

It would be like this big black eye for gun control!!!

I think he could pull that off brilliantly!

“Snipers stole my childhood!!! AR owners are going to kill every person on the planet by 2024!!!!! How dare you!”

whatcha say, Maser? How about trolling for the good guys? There is a Free Scarf and a case of Spin-D in it for you!

Can’t promise a 49 foot catamaran, but I have this old kayak and it’s yours if you have a paddle and a pair of rubber shoes...

‘Merika!!

Cheers, Sirhr

PS. If you can get Biden to sniff your neck, we will all chip in and buy you a car!
 
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