How long before China / Russia attack

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Read Sun Tzu. Read Alinsky.

We have already been defeated by the Marxist/Leninists. It started a long time ago.

Sun Tzu will tell you how to take an enemy nation without a shot. Hint. Sun Tzu is Chinese.

It is going to be nigh impossible to defeat the Left at this point.
 
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    Read Sun Tzu. Read Alinsky.

    We have already been defeated by the Marxist/Leninists. It started a long time ago.

    Sun Tzu will tell you how to take an enemy nation without a shot. Hint. Sun Tzu is Chinese.

    It is going to be nigh impossible to defeat the Left at this point.

    the left is doing a great job of defeating its self.....all we need to do is keep exposing them.

    • pelosi forcing masks, then closing businesses....then getting her hair done without a mask......american people see this.
    • left claiming #BelieveAllWomen......then deciding not to believe all women when it comes to Biden....american people see this.
    • left claiming #WomenEmpowerment......then watch the left to stumble to define what a woman is.....american people see this.
    • left claiming susan b anthony was all of a sudden a massive racist....american people see this.
    • Rioting in every major democrat city....then try to blame republicans.....american people see this.
    • left propping up child rapists, woman abusers, and felons as martyrs and the new jesus.....american people see this.

    the lefts only power comes from being able to call people racist.....and it worked...for a while.

    then they started calling normal people, and normal actions racist.....and then claimed if you dont admit you are racist, then you are a racist......until everything has become racist and the word has no meaning.

    now people are getting fed up, and genuinely dont care about being called a racist anymore.....and once more people learn to not give a shit, they are going to be left powerless.

    then there were the protests....and your average american didnt really give it too much though......then they started to bring weapons to fight the "nazis"........then everyone who didnt support them was considered a "nazi".......until your average person walking down the street was a "nazi" and are being attacked.

    now we are seeing your average people fighting back......and look what happens, they run and flee and cry for the cops.

    the left is only in "power" when we let them get away with their bullshit.....the second you offer even the slightest resistance, they crumple.

    and the harder they push, they are only going to recieve more and more resistance to their bullshit.

    people are fine to let them have their way, until it starts to impact them personally......and what we are seeing is the left starting to push too far, to the point it impacts normal everyday people, and we are watching those people push back.
     

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    As we have just witnessed first hand that a few infected people can collapse any country , you really don't need bombs anymore for warfare. China's test run showed complete success next step to win would be to vaccinate your people and then release another virus into the system for which no other country can fend off before causing the collapse. The beauty of it is that it appears totally natural not that its an offensive weapon directed at anyone.

    They said some 25 years ago that Chinese was the language to learn for business in the future ..... How did they know ......

    How about WE develop a virus that is specific to the Chinese DNA and "Oops, slipsies. it got out." Then about the same time, the Three Rivers Gorge Dam has a massive accident.🤪
     

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    How about WE develop a virus that is specific to the Chinese DNA and "Oops, slipsies. it got out." Then about the same time, the Three Rivers Gorge Dam has a massive accident.🤪


    Its called a driving license......collateral damage is a concern though.
     
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    The Newfie Army would've invaded ya'll, long ago..... but the main reason they haven't is simply that Newfoundland just ain't big enough to house/contain all ya'll as prisoners!

    It's pure "logistics" ya know.
    One of my brothers catches a helicopter ride out of St Johns on a fairly regular basis and loves those fucking crazy Newfies so much that he has hosted some of them at his home in Louisiana for vacations. There are far worse people to be invaded by.
     
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    Everybody is still operating under mutual destruction dogma.
     

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    What's giving me momentary pause is I just talked to a good friend last night that is very connected in the LA apparel world in DT Los Angeles... He's part of brokering a deal for masks --5 billion N95's ordered for the US gov.

    Does make one wonder what's going on that we don't know about... I mean there's such a prudent thing as "being prepared" --but 5 billion?!

    At the very least --Masks look like they're here to stay.
    Oh and have I said.. FUCK CHINA lately?

     

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    they don't need to attack. the dems will destroy us all.

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    Its my understanding that only 15% +- of Walmart's products come from China and that Apple is moving iPhone production to Mexico.

    Can you vet that?
     

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    Can you vet that?
    percentage of products can be misleading. most of what they sell is domestic, because food and diapers and stuff like that are mostly made here.
    the difference are things that could be made here, but are made cheaper in places where labor is cheaper and pollution standards are lower.
    what makes the walmart more evil than just putting cheap chinese products on their shelves instead of american made ones is that when there is no foreign competing product, walmart will sell the american one (if there is enough demand), but if they can, they will force the manufacturer to lower the cost to keep the business, eventually causing the labor intensive operations to be moved offshore. i have seen this firsthand.
     

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    Now when do we start talking about taking the fight to China for killing Hundreds of thousand of Americans ?

    So you want to start talking about the war that could take millions of American lives instead? China is not your Taliban

    Photo before 'Popmpous' got on his knees and Goatfuckers dictated terms (irony Taliban are still listed as a terror group )
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    Avoiding these optics is what the talks are about.
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    Russia has exactly zero interest in attacking US. I would not be surprised to be on your side in a conflict with China.
     

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    Russia has exactly zero interest in attacking US. I would not be surprised to be on your side in a conflict with China.
    I agree!!! A lot of kids from top government officials, pop and movie stars and their families live in USA and Europe. And have double citizenship.
    In instance Medvedev(ex Russian president, and now prime minister) His son US citizen and he is running big business here that was finance by his papa.

    FYI.. if you’re in Massachusetts you might be filling up your car in one of his gas stations. Or feeding your family in one of franchises that he owns.
     
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    Russia has exactly zero interest in attacking US. I would not be surprised to be on your side in a conflict with China.
    I don’t agree about China. The might play tough. But dosent matter how powerful they claim their are. Their country only have 2 rivers left to nourish them. Imagine what can be happen with it if they piss US. I remember history and China never won any wars 😆 even small Japanise nation was fucking them hard for decades.
     

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    Realisticaly any shooting war could only be by proxy , all other options would end up Nuclear.

    Russians are quite wary of the Chinese, but they are literally being forced into an alliance with the Chinese by the Neocons..(Chinese still sometimes dream of territorial claims to Russian lands). Funny enough for over 100+ years west was preoccupied with containing rise of Germany by preventing German industrial and monetary might harnessing wast resources supply of Russia only to end up with Russian Chinese alliance. Mission accomplished.

    True Chinese were historically not much of a fighting force ever in the past couple hundred years, everyone and their aunt pasing by the neighborhood whooped their asses time and time again, but still i wouldn't bet on them being a pushover in any way.

    By the way things are going In a couple of years you will have a military manned according to diversity quotas, safe spaces on every level, and transexual top brass. any promotion will come with a list of diversity boxes to tick and only at the very end someone might look at merit. Standards will continue to drop to get the more inclusive force.
     
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    Until Putin steps down as their ruler and leader, My spidey sense are up and on guard with anything that has to do with the Ruskies.
    He newer step down. They just annulled constitution, so he can be president forever.
     

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    Well, Till he dies or something happens, I can't Trust the Russians. They happen to be in bed with Syria and China and other people who have openly stated their hate for America. Yet you think Russia can be trusted (y)
    Not trusted, not to worry about. Syria, Libya etc is army play ground for US an RU.
     

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    A digital ad released by a fundraising arm of the Trump campaign on Sept. 11 calling on people to “support our troops” uses a stock photo of Russian-made fighter jets and weapons.

    The ad, which was made by the Trump Make America Great Again Committee, features silhouettes of three soldiers walking as a fighter jet flies over them. The ad first appeared on Sept. 8 and ran until Sept. 12.



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    I could see them missing the ak74 brake, but those guys are too dainty too be American troops.
     

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    No need for China to attack...they own all the assets of the U.S.
    No need for Russia to attack...Putin has the tapes on Trump.
     

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    What's giving me momentary pause is I just talked to a good friend last night that is very connected in the LA apparel world in DT Los Angeles... He's part of brokering a deal for masks --5 billion N95's ordered for the US gov.

    Does make one wonder what's going on that we don't know about... I mean there's such a prudent thing as "being prepared" --but 5 billion?!

    At the very least --Masks look like they're here to stay.
    Oh and have I said.. FUCK CHINA lately?


    Still no n95s on the shelves for the plebs.

    The designer mask trend makes me want to vomit.

    And how quickly the origins of the virus has been memory holed in msm is also sickening.

    IHME now projecting over 400k deaths by Jan 1st.

    And lol at russia or china attacking the usa. Maybe one day (not) but nukes are a decent deterent ;)

    Much higer risk of a small nuke or bomb from "rouge" nations or groups. IMO. All will deny deny of course.

    As for left vs right. Lol..the right hasnt even joined the fray....yet. It may happen, but if it does govt hammer will fall hard...

    Remember:

    The right must be kept from organizing at all costs.

    Plus they do themselves no favors anyways, infighting over every small differences in ideology, plus the whole...i just want to be left alone mentality...

    Hard to say. Hope it doesnt come to that, because if it does it means things are REALLY fucked.
     

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    Still no n95s on the shelves for the plebs.

    The designer mask trend makes me want to vomit.

    And how quickly the origins of the virus has been memory holed in msm is also sickening.

    IHME now projecting over 400k deaths by Jan 1st.

    And lol at russia or china attacking the usa. Maybe one day (not) but nukes are a decent deterent ;)

    Much higer risk of a small nuke or bomb from "rouge" nations or groups. IMO. All will deny deny of course.

    As for left vs right. Lol..the right hasnt even joined the fray....yet. It may happen, but if it does govt hammer will fall hard...

    Remember:

    The right must be kept from organizing at all costs.

    Plus they do themselves no favors anyways, infighting over every small differences in ideology, plus the whole...i just want to be left alone mentality...

    Hard to say. Hope it doesnt come to that, because if it does it means things are REALLY fucked.
    Things are already really Fucked. Now it's just a matter of trying to be patient waiting for hunting season to start.
     
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    Things are already really Fucked. Now it's just a matter of trying to be patient waiting for hunting season to start.

    Maybe. Was talking to a more liberal friend the other day he said the EXACT same thing.

    And to be clear, hes more of the "classic" liberal which round these parts deviates feom the coastal liberals pretty drastically IMO.

    Anyways...he said the exact same thing. This after we were chatting about his several properties, including a very nice lake house. Boats, trucks, horses, ect. In other words, he has done really well for himself.

    My question - "yeah, just how fucked are YOU, really".

    The subject quickly changed.
     
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    I could see them missing the ak74 brake, but those guys are too dainty too be American troops.

    Looks like some B rated movie props mix bag of airsoft guns chicom optic :poop:

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    all this chest puffing and dick measuring makes me yawn.

    no I'm not sorry if your feelings are hurt :ROFLMAO:
     

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    Hmmm..... And here we are 6 months after the last comment (above).... Conservatives have abandoned the West coast and moved inland. Could be a cake walk.
     

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    lol taken over by russia or china that almost funny why take over when you allow the puppet government to take all the heat . joe only ever was a scape goat the man hardly a day without forgetting how to talk or what he was supposed to talk about .
     

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    The Newfie Army would've invaded ya'll, long ago..... but the main reason they haven't is simply that Newfoundland just ain't big enough to house/contain all ya'll as prisoners!

    It's pure "logistics" ya know.
    Be truthful, as long as the Newfoundland army has Labatt's, goats and goat boots, they aren't going anywhere
     

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    Pretty sure China has already attacked via a big ass INVITATION from the citizens of the USA when everyone decided to stop shopping the local stores and fled to walmart.
    Besides controlling an entire election including the judicial process, they have taken over everything from entertainment (AMC) to significant amount of farming land, pharmaceutical industry, private energy industry. Do the searches on China CCP purchases of US. Imagine, Trump wanted to hold the CCP responsible for the financial damage caused but the virus, including individuals. That would have literally erased our entire debt to China. X iden gave China a free pass, for the lowly price of 4.5B + change. Everything horrible we have accused China of, this admin. has already done.
     
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    You're already being subjugated through subversion through your Lib candidate Sleepy Joe, watch ride the dragon
    That documentary "Ride the Dragon" came out in August 2020 before the election; documenting how Biden "family" along with Harris & John Kerry family got over 4B. Writing was on the wall, no one looked. And our tax dollars paid all Hunter's expenses..
     
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    They don’t need to, unfortunately. Cyber warfare has proven more than effective at inciting insurrection.

    /Thread.

    While our academic campuses are busy trying to adjudicate Title 9 and Title 10 issues, and offering fucking meaningless degrees that will contribute fuck all to society, China is pumping out more PhDs in the physical and computer scientists than we could ever forecast 20+ years ago.

    And these people are simply fucking light years ahead of us on the new battlefield of cyber war.
     

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    I have this nagging, F'n, monkey on my back, that keeps telling me, we're watching this tyrannical admin. hanging themselves, more and more each day. Invasion on our southern border, E.O.'s being pencil whipped, riots burning our cities down, tax $$ just being hemorrhaged in all directions, etc., etc.,
    This is the WORST admin. of our entire existence as a Republic, and I went through the Carter and Clinton eras. Plus, when was the last time, you seen a leader, especially one from a communist country, laugh, poke fun, of one of our Presidents, so publicly, for the whole world to see?? I still have this dream, of a Military takeover of this fraudulent Gov.. I just can't believe this is happening in real time. Every morning, I hope to turn on the news and see these traitors being marched out in chains. I really hate what I'm witnessing, at this moment in my life. Mac😠
     
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    Nah. They NEED us to buy their goods so they can feed their people. China will invade Taiwan though and Biden won't do anything about it.
     

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    They do not need or want war , ''Sun Tzu argues that war shouldn't be taken lightly, that the highest form of warfare is defeating the enemy without fighting'' . while US is spending $$ to play regime change or terrorist whack-a-mole around the globe and fighting woke wars at home , Chinese are building the largest project in history Belt and Road Initiative that spans half the globe. While some point at predatory lending practices of this project, it's not much different to IMF or World Bank loans .

    Rona gave them a half a decade worth of economic boost vs the US date where they overtake US in GDP is close while in PPP they are already ahead. They are also a big enough market where global corporations see China as important or in some sectors more important than US market.

    Some Rona perspective whole WW2 project in todays $ cost US cca 3.5tn$ , rona spending pork is already at 6tn$ and they are only getting started.
    Chinese are winning big time.

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    India and China don't get along at all and they have a mountain range dividing the 2

    North Korea is being used as a proxy aggressor

    Russia is sitting by watching the cat and mouse in the south china sea

    Africa is easing pickings and easily corruptible because 3rd world country

    Europe is inept to a degree because of Questionable leadership

    America has questionable leadership

    If Russia is producing that much wheat i don't think they are selling all of it, it is to sustain a long term destabilization period possibly

    The UN was to watch between the powers at the end of world war 2 to make sure things didn't escalate (now it just works like a bouncer at the pub, the angst is still there and a world court means what nowadays?)

    The world used to rely on MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction)

    There are Hyper sonic Missiles now that can and will be armed with nuclear or MOAB styled munitions (thus MAD means nothing if Hyper sonic munitions are used)

    China has a lot of people to feed. I recall years ago u could march them seven abreast into the ocean and it wouldn't diminish their numbers (that number is probably worse since the one baby rule got axed)

    Finances hmmm

    The entire world has been sucked dry trying to fix a problem with a virus (no i don't wanna debate it's abilities etc)

    Back during other major conflicts it was all about bonds

    If i wanted a country to go backwards and commit to using money and waste what would I do?

    Destroy manufacturing capability (make it too expensive to run in that country, business people move plant to cheaper place to manufacture)

    Purchase via proxy all the land and ship the goods out of said land to my country. (and in regard's to metal keep the high grade and sell it back as low grade expensive tools)

    this list goes on and on sorry bout the book and i don't want too much of my opinion in there if it is my bad.
     

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    Already in the white house, so why worry? If an internal take over doesn't work fast enough for the chinese, then what the hell, just do an emp and in 2-3 months they have what they want. "One Second After", by Forstchen gives the picture of what and how an emp attack will purify.

    The chicoms are already flexing their muscle with incursions thru-out the world to see what they can get away with. Wuhan flu (biggest bio-weapon experiment to date). How many 100's of thousands, if not millions off'ed with no consequences? Silk road project, fishing where ever they please. The list goes on and on and it's on our doorsteps now.

    I don't think they will have to fire a single shot, if what I see from the "free world" continues and how they are allow it to continue. Look for the rioting to ramp up again in the U.S. as l.e. stands by and lets the cities burn.
     
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    Rady i like how your looking at the current state of affairs but I worry of the events of 911

    see what was done to another country for X amount of people dead

    what would be done once X times a factor i don't know is happening daily (yes incorrect reporting and reasons of death numbers are hard with a fog)

    Honestly I really really hope they don't have orbital nukes that can EMP
     

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    Rady i like how your looking at the current state of affairs but I worry of the events of 911

    see what was done to another country for X amount of people dead

    what would be done once X times a factor i don't know is happening daily (yes incorrect reporting and reasons of death numbers are hard with a fog)

    Honestly I really really hope they don't have orbital nukes that can EMP
    They do. Though the book is a fictionalized look at such a scenario, it is well sourced. They have already threatened the use of such a weapon:
     

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    If that's the case (no i dont want fearmongering i want ppl safe regardless of issue)

    food water shelter

    and ways to replenish

    lived in my shed for a while over lock downs imagine never walking up to a shop for months/years without electricity