Gunsmithing how much weight can you remove from a action
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Re: how much weight can you remove from a action
Like sorta fluttings on the sides of the action. There is athread somewhere on here that a guy did that.
Like sorta fluttings on the sides of the action. There is athread somewhere on here that a guy did that.
Re: how much weight can you remove from a action
There are so many other options that affect the carry weight of a rifle, why mess with the action? Just saying. More details of what you hope to accomplish would be cool.
Kelly
There are so many other options that affect the carry weight of a rifle, why mess with the action? Just saying. More details of what you hope to accomplish would be cool.
Kelly
Re: how much weight can you remove from a action
this build is for hunting in the hills. i am builting this on a remington 700 short action and since i cant find a titanium action i am considering a CM or stainless and modifying it. this will be in a mcmillan classic with edge tech.jewell trigger set at 2lbs. it will also spot a carbonfiber ABS barrel. on top is dual dovetail low rings with a 2.5x10x32NF.
I know that i can save weight other places like my scope and a lighter barrel BUT i want this barrel and scope and as for the stock im not sure you can get much lighter. just wanting to see if anyone has had success and how much weight they lost.
this build is for hunting in the hills. i am builting this on a remington 700 short action and since i cant find a titanium action i am considering a CM or stainless and modifying it. this will be in a mcmillan classic with edge tech.jewell trigger set at 2lbs. it will also spot a carbonfiber ABS barrel. on top is dual dovetail low rings with a 2.5x10x32NF.
I know that i can save weight other places like my scope and a lighter barrel BUT i want this barrel and scope and as for the stock im not sure you can get much lighter. just wanting to see if anyone has had success and how much weight they lost.
Re: how much weight can you remove from a action
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cinch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/index_018.htm </div></div>
this is exactly what i was looking for thanks cinch
toby
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cinch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.kampfeldcustom.com/index_018.htm </div></div>
this is exactly what i was looking for thanks cinch
toby
Re: how much weight can you remove from a action
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.brownprecision.com/SelectingComponents.htm
The following weights of full actions (bolt, guard screws, trigger guard
magazine liner, trigger assembly, recoil lugs, follower and spring) -
everything except the barrel, stock, scope and mounts.
Remington 700 short ADL .............2 lbs. 3 1/2 oz.
Remington 700 short BDL .............2 lbs. 4 oz.
Remington 700 long ADL ..............2 lbs. 6 1/2 oz.
Remington 700 long BDL ..............2 lbs. 7 oz.
Remington 600 .............................1 lb. 15 oz.
Remington 788 long (.243, .308) ....2 lbs. 11 oz.
Remington 7..................................2 lbs. 2 oz.
Mauser Mark X .............................2 lbs. 15 oz.
Sako medium (current production) ..2 lbs. 5 oz.
Sako long ......................................2 lbs. 13 oz.
Ruger short dovetail receiver ...........2 lbs. 6 oz.
Ruger long dovetail receiver .............2 lbs. 8 1/2 oz.
Weatherby Model 70 post-64 ...........2 lbs. 13 oz.
Weatherby Mark V ...........................3 lbs. 3 oz
Barrels ...
Contour............Length...Weight.........Barrel Diameter @ 20"
A ,,#1................22"...........1 lb. 13 oz...... .550"
B ..#3................22"...........2 lbs. 10 oz..... .625"
C ..#5................22"...........3 lbs. 3 oz....... .700"
D ..#10...............24"..........5 lbs. 5 oz...... 1.450"
E ..Rem. factory......22"......2 lbs. 7 1/4 oz.. .580"
F ..Rem. factory mag..24"....2 lbs. 14 oz..... .595 </div></div>
I have built some light rifles.
The 20 ounce stock, #1 profile barrel, Leupold 2x7 scope, Aluminum bottom metal, Aluminum rings and mount, etc also figure in.
If you can get a gunsmith discount at Brownells, you can get a deal on these stocks:
http://www.hightech-specialties.com/
They cost less than McMillan stocks, but take more work.
Here I am epoxying a wooden plug in the butt of the stock, so I can screw the recoil pad into the wood.
Here is a 7mmMag rifle made with one of those stocks that weighs 9 pounds with scope and sling.
You can work you ass off building a light rifle, and then be disappointed when you compare it to a Kimber:
http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/rifles/84m/84m_montana/
At least when you start with Bansner High Tech Specialties stock, you have the same STOCK as a Kimber.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.brownprecision.com/SelectingComponents.htm
The following weights of full actions (bolt, guard screws, trigger guard
magazine liner, trigger assembly, recoil lugs, follower and spring) -
everything except the barrel, stock, scope and mounts.
Remington 700 short ADL .............2 lbs. 3 1/2 oz.
Remington 700 short BDL .............2 lbs. 4 oz.
Remington 700 long ADL ..............2 lbs. 6 1/2 oz.
Remington 700 long BDL ..............2 lbs. 7 oz.
Remington 600 .............................1 lb. 15 oz.
Remington 788 long (.243, .308) ....2 lbs. 11 oz.
Remington 7..................................2 lbs. 2 oz.
Mauser Mark X .............................2 lbs. 15 oz.
Sako medium (current production) ..2 lbs. 5 oz.
Sako long ......................................2 lbs. 13 oz.
Ruger short dovetail receiver ...........2 lbs. 6 oz.
Ruger long dovetail receiver .............2 lbs. 8 1/2 oz.
Weatherby Model 70 post-64 ...........2 lbs. 13 oz.
Weatherby Mark V ...........................3 lbs. 3 oz
Barrels ...
Contour............Length...Weight.........Barrel Diameter @ 20"
A ,,#1................22"...........1 lb. 13 oz...... .550"
B ..#3................22"...........2 lbs. 10 oz..... .625"
C ..#5................22"...........3 lbs. 3 oz....... .700"
D ..#10...............24"..........5 lbs. 5 oz...... 1.450"
E ..Rem. factory......22"......2 lbs. 7 1/4 oz.. .580"
F ..Rem. factory mag..24"....2 lbs. 14 oz..... .595 </div></div>
I have built some light rifles.
The 20 ounce stock, #1 profile barrel, Leupold 2x7 scope, Aluminum bottom metal, Aluminum rings and mount, etc also figure in.
If you can get a gunsmith discount at Brownells, you can get a deal on these stocks:
http://www.hightech-specialties.com/
They cost less than McMillan stocks, but take more work.
Here I am epoxying a wooden plug in the butt of the stock, so I can screw the recoil pad into the wood.
Here is a 7mmMag rifle made with one of those stocks that weighs 9 pounds with scope and sling.
You can work you ass off building a light rifle, and then be disappointed when you compare it to a Kimber:
http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/rifles/84m/84m_montana/
At least when you start with Bansner High Tech Specialties stock, you have the same STOCK as a Kimber.
Re: how much weight can you remove from a action
http://weaverrifles.com/RMBS/2007/RMBS2007.htm
scroll down to the second rifle
http://weaverrifles.com/Rifles/30-378/30-378.htm
not a Rem, but you get idea
http://weaverrifles.com/RMBS/2007/RMBS2007.htm
scroll down to the second rifle
http://weaverrifles.com/Rifles/30-378/30-378.htm
not a Rem, but you get idea
Re: how much weight can you remove from a action
Made a very light stock for myself on my remmy 243 that i'm testing to see if all holds up, weighs 670grams as it is on the rifle. All carbon fiber. The Roedale steel moderator will soon be replaced with a light 220gram roedale delta in aluminium.
edi
Made a very light stock for myself on my remmy 243 that i'm testing to see if all holds up, weighs 670grams as it is on the rifle. All carbon fiber. The Roedale steel moderator will soon be replaced with a light 220gram roedale delta in aluminium.
edi
Re: how much weight can you remove from a action
Most of the time, If you remove 10 to 15 pounds off the waist of the hunter, the pound or two left on the stock won't matter. JMHO
Most of the time, If you remove 10 to 15 pounds off the waist of the hunter, the pound or two left on the stock won't matter. JMHO
Re: how much weight can you remove from a action
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: former naval person</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most of the time, If you remove 10 to 15 pounds off the waist of the hunter, the pound or two left on the stock won't matter. JMHO </div></div>
Now that is where a lot of weight can be saved.
A Remington short action is pretty darned light. But if you flute the bolt and use a lightweight firing pin assembly with aluminum shroud, you can shave another 6 oz or so. That's about as far as I'd go with the action. Get a composite stock with a sporter barrel. Use a BDL floorplate and you will have a rifle that weighs about 7 1/4 lbs. That's pretty darned light.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: former naval person</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most of the time, If you remove 10 to 15 pounds off the waist of the hunter, the pound or two left on the stock won't matter. JMHO </div></div>
Now that is where a lot of weight can be saved.
Re: how much weight can you remove from a action
You can remove metal from the sides of the magazine box to save an ounce or two. Other than the things you mentioned, it will be difficult to shave much more weight. A 2.5-8x32 Ziess Conquest will save 5 ounces on the scope and a few on the rings as well (1" vs. 30mm).
You can remove metal from the sides of the magazine box to save an ounce or two. Other than the things you mentioned, it will be difficult to shave much more weight. A 2.5-8x32 Ziess Conquest will save 5 ounces on the scope and a few on the rings as well (1" vs. 30mm).
