Howa Mini Action__Replacement Stocks?

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It's ridiculously tempting to snatch up a mini action and turn it into a 6mm AR/6 Grendel...
That's exactly what I felt when Howa announced the Mini with the Grendel boltface. I'd already built a 6 RAT on a CZ 527 7.62x39 carbine, and as neat as the little 527 actions are, and as well as the 527 RAT turned out, I preferred Howa's push-feed action for shooting 105gr loads that are too long to fit into a magazine. At that time, I was able to buy bbl'd actions direct from LSI (importers of Howa), and the pricing was pretty decent. Cost aside, the biggest issue facing a prospective Mini owner is still the magazine. I'd hoped that by now, Howa would've seen fit to come up with a workable solution to the magazine issue, or that some other aftermarket company would've done so. I think if it weren't for that one issue, we'd have an even wider selection of custom stocks for the Mini. Not knocking B&C or Boyds - just saying that both companies have paid a price for making stocks with the Mini inlet, due to problems with those plastic magazines.
 
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That's exactly what I felt when Howa announced the Mini with the Grendel boltface. I'd already built a 6 RAT on a CZ 527 7.62x39 carbine, and as neat as the little 527 actions are, and as well as the 527 RAT turned out, I preferred Howa's push-feed action for shooting 105gr loads that are too long to fit into a magazine. At that time, I was able to buy bbl'd actions direct from LSI (importers of Howa), and the pricing was pretty decent. Cost aside, the biggest issue facing a prospective Mini owner is still the magazine. I'd hoped that by now, Howa would've seen fit to come up with a workable solution to the magazine issue, or that some other aftermarket company would've done so. I think if it weren't for that one issue, we'd have an even wider selection of custom stocks for the Mini. Not knocking B&C or Boyds - just saying that both companies have paid a price for making stocks with the Mini inlet, due to problems with those plastic magazines.
The other option is to run a regular short action and use .223 length MDT AICS mags.
 

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Has anyone used a Boyd's At-One stock for their Mini? Trying to outfit one for my 8 year old grandson and the 12.5 LOP and adjust ability looks like a very big plus...
 

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Has anyone used a Boyd's At-One stock for their Mini? Trying to outfit one for my 8 year old grandson and the 12.5 LOP and adjust ability looks like a very big plus...
There are people who have bought the AT-One and like them. I have read they are functional. Keep in mind you having to do a little fit and finish work with a Boyd’s stock can be likely.

Another option is to buy a chassis that has an adjustable buttstock. If you go this route you also eliminate the need for an aftermarket bottom metal. The OEM one is plastic.

IMO, a good looking chassis is the Sharps Bro’s Heatseeker.
 

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IMO, a good looking chassis is the Sharps Bro’s Heatseeker.
I really want to like it as well, but how the fuck do you swab the barrel? And I'm disappointed they haven't addressed that issue. It would be stupid-easy to redesign the buttstock feature with a folding hinge.
 

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I bought a Manners EH1A stock a few months ago to replace a Manners T3 on a M700 build in 6XC. I really like this stock - even with the adjustable cheekpiece, it's considerably lighter than a T4A, yet is comfortable in prone w/bipod. When I talked with Tom Manners about doing the Mini inlet 2-3yrs ago, the EH1 was the stock he referenced as the most likely model he'd choose for the Mini action. After shooting this EH1A on that M700 for the past few months, I'm really, really wishing he'd re-consider doing the Mini inlet for at least this one stock model....but the last time I spoke with one of the guys who works at MSC about them doing the Mini inlet, he said the only way for me to get a Manners with inlet for a Mini was to buy a flattop stock w/o inletting, and either doing it myself or sending it to someone who has the skills to do a good job. I guess that means that the folks at Manners who make these decisions have decided definitely not to do inlets for the Mini. So, the question becomes - is it worth $700+ to have LRI do the Mini inlet on a Manners EH1A flattop stock? I'm tempted, believe me. If Howa had made a good faith effort to replace their somewhat flimsy & problematic plastic mags with a much-improved magazine, I think it'd be worth it. As it is, there are a couple of companies making BDL-style hinged floorplate bottom metal for the Mini actions, which would get you away from the problems of reliable feeding with the detachable mags, and make for a rifle easier to carry due to the lack of the mag well being right at the balance point. Here's a photo of the M700 6XC that I mentioned, in its EH1A stock - what do the Howa Mini fans here think of being able to get a stock like this with the Mini inlet?
 

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I really want to like it as well, but how the fuck do you swab the barrel? And I'm disappointed they haven't addressed that issue. It would be stupid-easy to redesign the buttstock feature with a folding hinge.
I don’t know if there is enough clearance to remove the bolt. You would think they had enough sense to make it so... but one never knows. Email them to find out? Please share your findings if you do.
 

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Brownells has a pistol chassi inlet for the Mini on sale for $289.

This isn't final configuration, just a stock and scope I had on hand. The magazine seems to work well in the chassis, but haven't put any rounds through it at all.

I am building this out to be a 6BRA. 20200913_085014.jpg
 

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Brownells has a pistol chassi inlet for the Mini on sale for $289.

This isn't final configuration, just a stock and scope I had on hand. The magazine seems to work well in the chassis, but haven't put any rounds through it at all.

I am building this out to be a 6BRA. View attachment 7422834
I really like the little Chassis options and think they would be ideal for these guns but they get expensive quick. Even on sale at $289 by the time you add a $100+ dollar stock and a $50 grip you're still around $450. I wish there were better solutions for stocks or at a minimum more offered a rear picatinny attachment like the Pork Sword. I just think it's a shame a generic little folding stock can't be had for less than $100.
 

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24" would be good for the extra velocity but the mini action heavy barrel have all been 20" so far in the other calibers
 

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Grandson is of slight build but very athletic for his age. The standard measurement from crook of elbow to crooked finger is 8.5”. I think he can handle the recoil of the Grendel, but fitting a stock is being problematic.

I am considering a LSS Gen2 Pistol Chassis to replace the current plastic stock. Could one cut down a buffer tube and fit a minimal stock to get the needed length that way?
 

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Wayne York of Pendleton Stocks/Oregunsmithing builds a composite stock for the Howa Mini. Quoted me $400
 

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Grandson is of slight build but very athletic for his age. The standard measurement from crook of elbow to crooked finger is 8.5”. I think he can handle the recoil of the Grendel, but fitting a stock is being problematic.

I am considering a LSS Gen2 Pistol Chassis to replace the current plastic stock. Could one cut down a buffer tube and fit a minimal stock to get the needed length that way?
I think you could cut the tube and use some of the butts out there.
 

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rookie7 - Thanks for the complement. Since I posted that reply, I've bought another B&C #1003 stock, this one in gray w/black web, to replace the Boyds stock on the 22 Grendel. Kind of a messy photo, but the LED lights out in the shop are good for showing actual color. I need to list the royal jacaronda Boyds Prairie Hunter stock that was on that rifle for sale....
Which is #1003 stock?
 

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I bought a 6.5 Howa Mini a year ago and put in a Oryx chassis and I have since then put a MDT vertical grip on it and use as a poor mans bench rest rifle.
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