I wish I could fabricate better. Not my strong point (better at it than language though).
Maggie’s I am pretty smart but some people are just on another level.
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as cool as that is fabrication wise, when thinking of new ideas like this think digital not mechanical (always going through my brain as well)
my industry is almost all electronic now, you cant even auction off older yet working piece of mechanical production equipment anymore
i was actually told by a auction house to throw out 3 machines that currently manufacture capsules (multi vits etc), because there is no market for them. it was running 6 months ago, and making money to boot.
the last 5 years or so cameras and sensors have gotten so small and cheap with prepackaged software from a company like banner or keyance, i dont even think mechanical for small one off projects or add on pieces.
i (told my guys as well) always stayed away from sensors and cameras because it was hard to "teach" but now they are set up with integrated touch screens with battery powered sensors.
you take a pic
its on the screen outline/choose target area
set your criteria threshold 50% likeness etc
if it doesnt match the photo it gives you the output signal
send that to a blow off station and you literally have almost 0 moving parts
the whole set up i just explained is less than $2000 with a 24v dc supply and enclosure.
not as fun to tinker with but they work great, and the learning curve is real fast (i spaz out at low voltage electronics... by no means a electrical engineer)
my industry is almost all electronic now, you cant even auction off older yet working piece of mechanical production equipment anymore
i was actually told by a auction house to throw out 3 machines that currently manufacture capsules (multi vits etc), because there is no market for them. it was running 6 months ago, and making money to boot.
the last 5 years or so cameras and sensors have gotten so small and cheap with prepackaged software from a company like banner or keyance, i dont even think mechanical for small one off projects or add on pieces.
i (told my guys as well) always stayed away from sensors and cameras because it was hard to "teach" but now they are set up with integrated touch screens with battery powered sensors.
you take a pic
its on the screen outline/choose target area
set your criteria threshold 50% likeness etc
if it doesnt match the photo it gives you the output signal
send that to a blow off station and you literally have almost 0 moving parts
the whole set up i just explained is less than $2000 with a 24v dc supply and enclosure.
not as fun to tinker with but they work great, and the learning curve is real fast (i spaz out at low voltage electronics... by no means a electrical engineer)
I’m in the process of building and programming a machine that will check headspace and/ or trim length of sized cases. I find the process tedious when I have 1300 cases to load up for Prairie dog hunting. Plus i just love to tinker.
It's on my list to do with a decapper like that, then dump into the SS tumbler that is built like a mini cement mixer, can wash, rinse, separate pins, shake out on drying grating without touching it. I have been contemplating height gauge in there also.
@2ndamendfan that's well done and he's onto a good track there. Similar to the CH Auto press that we have here. I've got a few ideas I'm tinkering with here, too. Necessity being the mother of invention, right?
And while I will say that there are some definite "differences" to sensors and digitization, the replacement of connecting rods, pistons, and crankshafts in vehicles to electric motors and batteries hasn't exactly been the greatest/smoothest transition.
There are MANY bazillions of instances where a simple machine does the job. In actuality, not theoretically.
And while I will say that there are some definite "differences" to sensors and digitization, the replacement of connecting rods, pistons, and crankshafts in vehicles to electric motors and batteries hasn't exactly been the greatest/smoothest transition.
There are MANY bazillions of instances where a simple machine does the job. In actuality, not theoretically.
You'd be amazed what you can do with an Arduino or Raspberry Pi these days. This machine shown in the video by the OP could be accomplished with an Arduino for instance.
You'd also be amazed at how much effort can go into such a simple device. For instance, here is an industrial digital thermometer with a color LCD panel that I breadboarded together and was testing. It uses a local and remote sensor. (Most of the jumpers are for the LCD). So much work for such a simple item that goes for $1.99 on Amazon.
You'd also be amazed at how much effort can go into such a simple device. For instance, here is an industrial digital thermometer with a color LCD panel that I breadboarded together and was testing. It uses a local and remote sensor. (Most of the jumpers are for the LCD). So much work for such a simple item that goes for $1.99 on Amazon.
This is the truth! Finding an idea that works, making prints, machining parts, and the fine tuning take a considerable amount of time and effort for even simple bench-top machines.
That is cool and all, help me work through this please.
In the video above I can see the mechanical primer pocket check device being replaced with a camera but you would still need a feed device and a mechanical decapper device would you not?
How are you making pills (vitamins) without any mechanical mechanisms?
You still need mechanical elements but instead of having everything cammed together and powered from a single source you power each operation with an individual axis.
At least that’s how my industry would do it. Servos for the win.
At least that’s how my industry would do it. Servos for the win.
different wording...
there are still multiple devices like the one needed for decapping (lets say putting cotton in the bottle before the cap goes on) but they are all separate pieces of equipment all running off the same plc.
20-25 years ago it was all linkage and recovering compressed air for efficiency
now there are a bunch of stand alone items servo driven doing one operation at a time, not a main motor with a big gearbox running 10 operations
its more of a divide and concur with smaller stuff now
a machine that puts caps on bottles:
grippers grab the bottle on the side where the labels is, and drag it through several horizontal rubber wheels that spin the cap on.
those would have a small air/spring clutch that would would set to make sure the cap is on tight enough
one motor usually ran 3-4 sets of wheels so your not trying to spin it on all the way the first shot.
get it started... down to the bottom ... and then torque it
now you can get machines that have sensors that you can set the torque like a stepper motor.
no more springs, clutch wearing out, screws that can fall in a bottle
the operation is still a physical operation but the amount of "pieces" that are used to get that done are vanishing fast.
no linkage to PM, shit to fall off etc..
servo beat me to it, i was still writing
there are still multiple devices like the one needed for decapping (lets say putting cotton in the bottle before the cap goes on) but they are all separate pieces of equipment all running off the same plc.
20-25 years ago it was all linkage and recovering compressed air for efficiency
now there are a bunch of stand alone items servo driven doing one operation at a time, not a main motor with a big gearbox running 10 operations
its more of a divide and concur with smaller stuff now
a machine that puts caps on bottles:
grippers grab the bottle on the side where the labels is, and drag it through several horizontal rubber wheels that spin the cap on.
those would have a small air/spring clutch that would would set to make sure the cap is on tight enough
one motor usually ran 3-4 sets of wheels so your not trying to spin it on all the way the first shot.
get it started... down to the bottom ... and then torque it
now you can get machines that have sensors that you can set the torque like a stepper motor.
no more springs, clutch wearing out, screws that can fall in a bottle
the operation is still a physical operation but the amount of "pieces" that are used to get that done are vanishing fast.
no linkage to PM, shit to fall off etc..
servo beat me to it, i was still writing
The automobile did not replace the horse overnight. The automobile itself had lots of hic-ups along the way. Electric is coming. Do not digress, but enjoy as you will get to see the "industrial revolution" part 2. It may not fully happen in your life, but it will happen.
I would digress about intrusion into personal life, not sure how to stop that. But that is a seperate issue.
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