I'm in a similar position, well said.
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I'm in a similar position, well said.
My wife and I each own a rental property and it is not a good experience whatsoever. My first tenant had to be evicted after about 2 years due to him threatening the HOA lady and the police being sent to the house several times. He left without me having to get a lawyer involved but he did $9,000 in damage to the house, left a $9,000 utility bill that I had to pay to keep the house from getting a lien from the HOA (the HOA claimed they couldn't cut only his utilities off), and I spent $5,000 to sue him. I won the lawsuit but he was kicked out of the military prior to completion of the lawsuit and then he quit every job he had when the Sheriff came with wage garnishment notices. He eventually fled to New York to live with his mom and left his wife and 4 children to fend for themselves in California. Absolute POS.
Second tenant paid for the first 6 months in advance and never paid again. Had to evict them and the judge ordered them to pay me $4,300 and gave them 2 months to leave my house. They left but of course did not pay. The air conditioning went out while they were on squatter status and they actually had the audacity to want me to pay to fix it so they could continue to run up the electric bill.
Currently I am having issues with the house as the hot water heater started leaking and the repair company botched the repair.
In the end the house has cost me a bit over $30,000 in repairs and financial loss in the last 3 years. Only reason I could afford it is I lost my entire re-enlistment bonus and a large chunk of the money I had saved on my 16 month deployment. Go ahead and say I am crying but those piece of shit tenants took over $30,000 away from my family and I that they didn't deserve or earn in any way, shape, or form. That is the problem with losing money to piece of shit tenants. It isn't that they are poor and they are taking from the rich like Robin Hood. They are scumbags robbing other people and have no honor or integrity. Go ahead and defend them all you wish.
By the way, my wife and I are both NCO's in the Army so it isn't like we are affluent and part of high society. We make ends meet and when shitbag tenants screw us over it hurts pretty bad. Spending 16 months in a combat zone and promising another 10 years of military service just to have my financial compensation be stolen away from me was bullshit.
Second tenant paid for the first 6 months in advance and never paid again. Had to evict them and the judge ordered them to pay me $4,300 and gave them 2 months to leave my house. They left but of course did not pay. The air conditioning went out while they were on squatter status and they actually had the audacity to want me to pay to fix it so they could continue to run up the electric bill.
Currently I am having issues with the house as the hot water heater started leaking and the repair company botched the repair.
In the end the house has cost me a bit over $30,000 in repairs and financial loss in the last 3 years. Only reason I could afford it is I lost my entire re-enlistment bonus and a large chunk of the money I had saved on my 16 month deployment. Go ahead and say I am crying but those piece of shit tenants took over $30,000 away from my family and I that they didn't deserve or earn in any way, shape, or form. That is the problem with losing money to piece of shit tenants. It isn't that they are poor and they are taking from the rich like Robin Hood. They are scumbags robbing other people and have no honor or integrity. Go ahead and defend them all you wish.
By the way, my wife and I are both NCO's in the Army so it isn't like we are affluent and part of high society. We make ends meet and when shitbag tenants screw us over it hurts pretty bad. Spending 16 months in a combat zone and promising another 10 years of military service just to have my financial compensation be stolen away from me was bullshit.
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I don't think he is whining about working hard, it sounds like he is doing the work. He is sharing the humorous applicants he gets with us and how he feels about the quality of some renters.
sounds like a funny story to me.
That's a far cry from the way you sounded earlier. It's one thing if someone bitches that they have nothing, and another when someone tells someone they should be grateful for what they have. A lot of people here were quick to throw out names at the opposing commenter for essentially telling a guy to quit bitching, which I find ironic as those same members are the types to say shit like that themselves but think it's different if they do it because they've been on the board longer. People here talk about entitlement a lot, but maybe they should start reflecting on their own actions and opinions within the forum which have become somewhat entitled themselves.
I know... I was pointing out that the comment regarding socialism if applied was more towards the OP than the commenter.
That would be valid except for the fact that I actively chose to pursue this venture firsthand rather than just hand it off to someone else as you had suggested I do in the first page. I'm not against work and the context of my original post mentions nothing of any form of whining/complaining when I had to get up at whatever time and lay tile in the hallway or landscape the back yard/deck in 100 degree weather or bitch that I'm too tired/good/privileged/whatever to hang that new front door or do one of the thousand tedious tasks that took to get this house ready. That's right; all the upgrades in the house were done by or in part by me dependent on what skill level was required (sorry, I have no idea about electronic wiring).
Not quite sure on how reporting what has happened so far amounts to me being lazy or utilizing FSA level antics. Rather this is as simple as me relaying the unbelievable level of stupid that I have encountered in a very short time that had taken me by surprise to the point I considered I was being professionally trolled by a friend.
I don't really care what people do/don't have. I'm much more interested in who they actually are and how they present themselves; notice, this is normally what excluded them from being able to rent the home instead of things like level of income or some nitpicky bullshit. I've been dirt poor, I've lived in a mud trench for a year and I've also been fortunate enough to go to college and get a few lucky breaks early in life to allow me to no longer need to work as of earlier this year. With everything said, all I expect from people is the same that was always expected of me.
P.S. - Lady from the rental side of the local agent came by to go over paperwork. Who cares about that; shes HOT AS FUCK. Mid/late 30s, 100lbs, Japanese with the accent with some form fitting dress and what had to be 5 inch heels on.
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I wasn't saying you're against work or any of that dude. Again... I was pointing out that in the context used if it was going to apply more towards anyone between the 2 parties it would be more towards you for the whining. No one said you didn't work... lol...
"Fucking Problems"
Yeah I know. My life is such a troubled tale of woe.
99 problems and that would end up making 101... Lmao
Mo money, mo problems. J
I feel your pain!
Finally sold my house in Wisconsin at a $250K loss!!!! Pain trying to get renters!
Unfortunately I'm too small to fail to qualify for any type of bailout....worse check I ever had to write! Took me a decade to save, will probably take a decade and a half to make up.
Thanks Obama (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkQxHlr2fXM)
Finally sold my house in Wisconsin at a $250K loss!!!! Pain trying to get renters!
Unfortunately I'm too small to fail to qualify for any type of bailout....worse check I ever had to write! Took me a decade to save, will probably take a decade and a half to make up.
Thanks Obama (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkQxHlr2fXM)
I left the last farmhouse I rented, and the landlord told me not to worry about paying my last month, He never said a word about his 23 yr old daughter staying over all the time either. I installed a wood burning furnace directly Into the hvac, and left it for the next renter. I also tailgated over 30 tons of 57 limestone and graded out the 1/2 mile drive. Renters aren't all bad, and then again, maybe those previously mentioned things I did might be what kept him from evicting me the first morning he saw her car there as he rolled up towing a bean planter....oh good times.
And here comes the political posts...
Yeah, because it's not like the bailout had anything to do with the ENTIRE House & Senate including some well noted Republicans who voted for it as well. Reminds me of just about every Foreclosure I had to deal with where the previous Owner wants to blame the Bank and the Government for not "bailing" them out of a CONTRACT THAT THEY VOLUNTARILY AGREED TO. If you don't want to pay it then don't fucking sign the Purchase & Sale AGREEMENT and don't fucking agree to the loan terms or sign any of the loan CONTRACT.
My post was sarcasm, not political....That is why I posted the youtube video. I believe her point is sarcasm....everybody blaming EVERYTHING on Obama. My point was also that business should be allowed to fail like everyone else...they also should not be making deals that they cannot afford.
I didn't even click on the video cause frankly I'm just tired of seeing the same crap over and over, so I apologize. I thought you were being serious.
Add: And I just watched the video... lmfao...
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I had to rent my house a couple of yrs back. A middle eastern gentleman turned up and said he's got 4-boys that run riot and his wife cooks Arabic all the time....done deal. I leased to him there and then. That really taught my neighbours not to fuck with me ! They've been exceptionally nice since i've moved back in !!!
PS he was a perfect tenant for me...paid on time, never called me once and completely re-painted and decorated when his lease ended.
PS he was a perfect tenant for me...paid on time, never called me once and completely re-painted and decorated when his lease ended.
HAHAHA!!! Get out whore!! LMAO!! Good read, I enjoyed it.
I will take it, If ?
I am able to raise chickens in the Garage because we do love our farm fresh eggs ?, & you DO allow pets also ??? I do need a place to house & train my prize fighting roosters in fully landscaped back yard with my pedigree papered breeding Rottweiler . I also got a few Vehicles & need ample parking for my investment collection, but at least 6 or 7 are for sale in the Nickle Adds so I don't expect to occupy much of the street in front of the home to park the rest .
Please return my Application w/approval ASAP.
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I am able to raise chickens in the Garage because we do love our farm fresh eggs ?, & you DO allow pets also ??? I do need a place to house & train my prize fighting roosters in fully landscaped back yard with my pedigree papered breeding Rottweiler . I also got a few Vehicles & need ample parking for my investment collection, but at least 6 or 7 are for sale in the Nickle Adds so I don't expect to occupy much of the street in front of the home to park the rest .
Please return my Application w/approval ASAP.
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Pics or it didn't happen.
I've found over the years that problems are inversely proportional to the price of the rent. The higher the rent, the fewer the problems!
One suggestion if you're looking for normal people to rent a house: Find the nearest hospital with a residency program. I've no idea where you're at in Utah, but there are a good number of them. Ask to post it to their website. New physicians start their gigs in July. Unless they're a total and complete fuck-up, they're guaranteed to stay in the area for at least 3 years with a stable income, and be too fucking busy to actually ever stay in the place. Most, like me, are near-obsessive clean freaks. Most have excellent credit. None will have outstanding warrants.
Renting openly is a bitch. Tailor your pool at the start.
Renting openly is a bitch. Tailor your pool at the start.
We have a second home and friends always make me feel like I'm mentally handicapped when they ask why we don't rent it out. Maybe I should print this out and have them read it the next time I'm asked.
Everyone around me has at least one acre yet I still have a fucktard neighbour who has made life difficult. Finally he moves out. But I find out he couldn't sell for what he wanted so he rented his place out. The police are out there weekly and the renters are worse than him -- which is like saying "oh, you thought Stalin was bad, wait 'til you meet the new guy!"
I'm so used to people who lie, cheat, steal, disrespect other peoples property, privacy, and generally fuck with other people simply because it gives them a power trip, that I'm down right shocked whenever I meet someone who is even remotely a decent person and straight shooter.
Everyone around me has at least one acre yet I still have a fucktard neighbour who has made life difficult. Finally he moves out. But I find out he couldn't sell for what he wanted so he rented his place out. The police are out there weekly and the renters are worse than him -- which is like saying "oh, you thought Stalin was bad, wait 'til you meet the new guy!"
I'm so used to people who lie, cheat, steal, disrespect other peoples property, privacy, and generally fuck with other people simply because it gives them a power trip, that I'm down right shocked whenever I meet someone who is even remotely a decent person and straight shooter.
I didn't sell my first house when I moved but have had very good luck renting it. It can be hard to evict before the end of a lease so I always opted for a month to month lease. You sign it once and it continues in force until either party ends it. Here in Delaware you give written 60 days notice (60 days from the 1st of the month coming up) I've found that the renters appreciate the flexibility as much as I like the ability to move them quickly (fairly quickly) Its easier to get them out because the lease is up. I've had tenants who needed a place to live because their house sold before the new one was finished, I've had divorced guys looking for a place to land and have had good luck renting to police officers. I don't advertise so its pretty much word of mouth that it is open. I know my experience is vastly different than others but I attribute the lack of hassle to the short term lease.
My father, a retired firemen has a lot of rentals and as I grew up, my job was to clean and paint them. Most people leave the rentals a wreak, I spent hours cussing them out in my mind as I cleaned. However, my wife and I, both civil servants now have some rental properties of our own, and most people still trash them, but there are some good renters. My wife's from a military family and what we now do is list them on the base web site. We have had several military families as renters and they have all been outstanding renters! I am sure if you had young guys parting all the time, they would trash the place, that's why we go with families. Its worked out great for us.
ill take it...it is properly plumbed for ceiling to floor wal to wall aquaponics tho rite? anyway assuming it is i will want to pay at least $200 less than yer asking and you to send me your background check information so i know you wont break in and steal my stuff(fish and veggies.) also is there a pet deposit because my great danes will guard the place while im making deliveries. i may need to take down a few walls/remodel too, hopefully that wont bother you. cant wait to meet you in person,
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For anyone that thinks they've had really BAD tenants... lol... Could always be worse...
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And here's one that they kindly converted the crawl space into a Marijuana growing operation. They went so far as to sweat in copper plumbing, connected into the HVAC for heat, and added electrical throughout. The plants were removed already, but roughly 70+...
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Wow...Some people are worse than animals.
I just had to move apartments so I could get a puppy and it was a BITCH trying to find a place because so many people get burned by bad tenants. There was one place I was really interested in, good price, location, size, but the landlord had to cancel the showing because the previous tenants had so trashed the place, it was going to take them 3 weeks to get it all cleaned up again.
So, it REALLY sucks for the landlords, but it also kinda sucks for those of us that rent that AREN'T assholes because we have to put up with the fallout from landlords getting burned.
I just had to move apartments so I could get a puppy and it was a BITCH trying to find a place because so many people get burned by bad tenants. There was one place I was really interested in, good price, location, size, but the landlord had to cancel the showing because the previous tenants had so trashed the place, it was going to take them 3 weeks to get it all cleaned up again.
So, it REALLY sucks for the landlords, but it also kinda sucks for those of us that rent that AREN'T assholes because we have to put up with the fallout from landlords getting burned.
Not exactly the same, but it reminds me of the several times a week domestic calls we get. Goes like this: Man or Woman allows girlfriend/boyfriend to move in. A month later, what seemed like a good idea goes to shit. The owner of the residence calls the police and says "I want her/him out!". The look on their face when we tell them that allowing someone to move in gives them rights, and we can't force them out is priceless. Long story short: If you let ANYONE (in Illinois anyway) move into your home, you will likely need to hire an attorney to get them back out. I would think long and hard before doing this...
I had a rental, actually rented it to the guy and his wife who I hired to paint it. They paid rent on time for the most part and didn't cause any trouble. Then they had a kid and stopped paying rent and eventually moved out before I had to evict them.
Total damage to the house? $25k, plus a fuck ton of work on mine and my dad's part, and dozens of favors pulled in from his friends to do electrical, tile and other repairs beyond our abilities.
Did you know if you flush diapers down the toilet they can ruin the septic system? $10k
Did you know if you have 5 dogs in the house (on a no-pets lease) and let them piss and shit in every room you have to pull out all the subflooring to get the urine smell out? $8k
Did you know that if you get drunk and kick the dishwasher it will eventually stop working? or get drunk and punch holes in the walls that you might not get your deposit back?
Never again for me.
Total damage to the house? $25k, plus a fuck ton of work on mine and my dad's part, and dozens of favors pulled in from his friends to do electrical, tile and other repairs beyond our abilities.
Did you know if you flush diapers down the toilet they can ruin the septic system? $10k
Did you know if you have 5 dogs in the house (on a no-pets lease) and let them piss and shit in every room you have to pull out all the subflooring to get the urine smell out? $8k
Did you know that if you get drunk and kick the dishwasher it will eventually stop working? or get drunk and punch holes in the walls that you might not get your deposit back?
Never again for me.
Not all of us that rent are dead beat ass hats that will destroy your shit. Some of us actually take care of the place like its our own, just please dont bitch when we charge you for the new water heater parts, or kitchen sink parts, or other minor maintenance items that we procure and install and provide you with the receipts for the amount deducted from that months rent.
The only trouble I've had with renters is from living beside a rental.
Not a very good neighborhood It was when I moved there but in the 40 years I was there, it deteriorated. Mostly trash now.
I had several renters living beside me, and most of them convinced me to keep everything locked up. I had one jailed because of her Pit being so obnoxious.
I moved about 6 years ago into a small house I had built way back in the woods. No neighbors that I can see. None can see me. Quiet, except when I am on the range, and playing with Tannerite. LOL....
Not a very good neighborhood It was when I moved there but in the 40 years I was there, it deteriorated. Mostly trash now.
I had several renters living beside me, and most of them convinced me to keep everything locked up. I had one jailed because of her Pit being so obnoxious.
I moved about 6 years ago into a small house I had built way back in the woods. No neighbors that I can see. None can see me. Quiet, except when I am on the range, and playing with Tannerite. LOL....
This thread is demonstrates a lot of what is wrong with America. Bunch of assholes with no integrity waste a man's time and when he complains the response is he is a whiner who just ought to be glad he has a house to rent. That lowlife class warfare envious attitude is exactly why others in the thread have so much evidence of the deadbeats they have rented to. I really wish we as a country would go back to debtors prison. You don't pay, you go to jail.
Jayne and Nick, that is some of the worse damage I have ever seen or heard of!
.22 base of skull. Long drive to swamp in other state. New renters. NO problem.
Family had several residential rentals up until my dad had a coupel of strokes back in 2004. When I had to take over the estate the rents on these houeses were mostly severly over due or the properties were total shit from years of scum renting them. I sold most all of them off ASAP and scraped three off the lots they were on and built entry level spec homes for sale. Best thing I did for the family as the headache was gone from these nightmare rentals and we made a few $$$ with this action. Now aside from running my own telecom business we buy houses from time to time to fix and sell and ocasionally buy lots and build spec homes to sell. Nothing for rent.
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Wife and I bought a house in a new sub-development back in '93. All the houses were comparable and most of the owners were senior NCOs, officers or civil service. Great neighborhood. Six or seven years later the developer decided to build on the remaining lots. For whatever reason he built small, low cost houses. Many were rented. We began to see the cops on a more frequent basis. Our 10 year old began to pick up some less than desirable habits. We bought another home in an established neighborhood (no empty lots). Sold the first and haven't looked back.
from what I see with friends, acquaintances and family is that most people who have rental properties want an easy buck. Having rental properties is a business and should be treated as such, not as a hobby. If you take the easy buck, hobby route, you'll lose.
At one time a family, individual etc could have a couple rental properties, have decent renters and make a buck...times have changed. Gone are the times when you respected another person's property. Gone are the days where you were grateful for what you have...people feel entitled. Gone are the days where if you broke something you fixed it or paid to fix it. It's just the world we live in now. Take this into consideration when renting property.
I like the idea of going to the hospital to find tenants. Maybe consider college too...rent to the parents and hold them financially responsible for the damage.
Another thing to consider is corporate housing.
At one time a family, individual etc could have a couple rental properties, have decent renters and make a buck...times have changed. Gone are the times when you respected another person's property. Gone are the days where you were grateful for what you have...people feel entitled. Gone are the days where if you broke something you fixed it or paid to fix it. It's just the world we live in now. Take this into consideration when renting property.
I like the idea of going to the hospital to find tenants. Maybe consider college too...rent to the parents and hold them financially responsible for the damage.
Another thing to consider is corporate housing.
Compound this with a 400lbs, 2 week old dead body in mid summer on the tenth floor with the elevator out of service! Good times.
The chair in the wall was a nice touch....I wonder how they really felt?
The black pieces below imbedded in the wall are vinyl records...
Man that brings back some bad memories of the animals my father had in some of his rentals. We used to have residential rentals before my dad had a couple of strokes and then I had to deal with them. Most were pretty good but some of the older houese were fucked up so bad we had them demolished which at the time actually increased the value of the lots they were on. I sold all 19 remaining of them in 2005 and had new spec homes built on the lots that we domolished the old wrecks off of. It worked out pretty good for us as the headaches were gone and we were able to sell the new spec houses at the height of the housing market. From time to time we buy a fixer upper, renovate it, and put it back on the market or have a spec home built to sell when we can find a lot at a reasonable price. Needless to say, we don't rent houses anymore.
How does that even happen? Who the hell says, hey...lets stick this chair in a wall.
I can understand people that are just dirty and don't clean often, or people that are semi hoarders and get overwhelmed by the sheer volume of stuff and literally have rooms with piles of it in there. But I can't see to understand how people will just consciously destroy stuff, just because. Stealing pipe or fixtures, ok, I can sort of see that. Sticking a chair in the wall or ripping parts of the wall out for no apparent reason; why?
Happens all the time. Usually it's kitchen knives and hammers. They all think it's the banks fault that they couldn't make their payments and it's like a car that's getting repossessed... they beat the shit out of it because they figure "Fuck them" even though it's not the fault of "them". The same mentality by these idiots cost me my job when one saw me approaching and decided I was "them" and therefore thought they could put their hands on me. Didn't workout as he expected and ended even worse for me because the Banks just don't understand these morons and they couldn't fathom why I didn't just turn my back on a guy trying to get physical. I've seen these ass clowns even go as far as having neighbors try to pick fights. Usually though the neighbors for some inexplicable reason are happy when the home is getting foreclosed... hmmm... lol
You might want to reconsider using your investment as rental property. If you are this frustrated in the showing/qualifying stage, having and actually dealing with tenants and the wear and tear that will develop on your "2nd home" will probably kill you. I'd recommend a "Plan B" that would be more in line with your temperament and realistic to your expectations. Even though most renters are responsible and dependable your newly remodeled home will of course gain some nicks, bangs, dings, and dirt over time and when you sell it in two years you'll have to do some of it again. If you end up with a poor tenant it could be much worse. While lucrative, the rental property does have challenges. Good luck!
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