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I just cant let this guy s comments go without a deeper discussion on the threat posed

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This congress-critter threatened nuke weapons against resisters of unconstitutional gun bans, I take leftists at their word. they are that evil in nature and only speak the truth when talking about intentions. The tactic to counter such a threat of attack ??????

http://www.mssblog.com/2018/11/29/a...on-against-resistors-of-firearm-confiscation/




Whoa… If he didn’t mean it he shouldn’t have said it. Read about Swalwell’s “Armageddon Confiscation” threat HERE



SOURCE: NRA-ILA

Well, it’s just before Thanksgiving, and nothing gets you into the holiday spirit like a U.S. Congressman who raises the specter of unleashing a nuclear attack against fellow Americans to demonstrate just how darned committed he is to mass firearm confiscation.

For those who were looking for yet another reason to purchase modern semiautomatic firearms and extra magazines for yourselves and your loved ones this holiday sales season, we give you the comments of Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA).

Swalwell, you may recall, gained some headlines for himself earlier this year when he proposed banning various semiautomatic firearms, forcing current owners to surrender them to the government, and “go[ing] after” resisters.

Last week, he made it clear in a Twitter exchange that he meant what he said.

Responding to another Twitter user who commented that an attempt to repeal the Second Amendment and ban and seize guns would provoke a war, Swallwell stated: “And it would be a short war my friend. The government has nukes. Too many of them. But they’re legit.” He added, “I’m sure if we talked we could find common ground to protect our families and communities.”

When confronted with the obvious import of his words — that he was suggesting nuclear weapons could be used on American soil against resisters of firearm confiscation — Swalwell backpedaled and tried to reframe his comments.

“Don’t be so dramatic,” he tweeted. “No one is nuking anyone or threatening that. I’m telling you this is not the 18th Century. The argument that you would go to war with your government if an assault weapons ban was in place is ludicrous and inflames the gun debate. Which is what you want.”

Later, as backlash continued to mount, Swalwell changed his story again and claimed his reference to America’s nuclear arsenal was merely a “joke” and “sarcasm.”

So which Swalwell story are we supposed to believe?

If it’s the first one, there’s apparently no option that he would consider off the table for enforcing firearm confiscation. This includes destroying entire communities, killing untold numbers of innocent bystanders, rendering large areas of land uninhabitable, all to annihilate (and presumably make an example of) anyone who stood in the way of his plans.

If it’s the second one, he’s pointing out that the idea of resisting a federal firearm confiscation order is “ludicrous” because the 18th Century’s relative parity between the unorganized militia and the then-recognized government no longer exists, even if the nuclear option is off the table. Yet this also implies that he could foresee using sophisticated military technology other than nuclear weapons against resistors.

If we’re to believe the third story, we’re all just too stuffy and serious to recognize the obvious comedic intent the U.S. Congressman had when he referenced nuclear weapons in describing the futility of anyone resisting the government’s attempt to violate their fundamental constitutional rights. The historical basis of the Second Amendment, in other words, is but a joke to Eric Swalwell.

Whichever option you choose, it is incredible even by the low standards of modern political rhetoric that Swalwell would be the one accusing others of being “dramatic” and “inflam[ing] the gun debate. We just don’t see anything funny about politicians and reporters whose idea of a joke is threatening to bomb fellow Americans or slandering law-abiding Americans for exercising their constitutional rights.

And even if he didn’t mean what he actually said (always a possibility with anti-gun politicians), we can still give thanks that Eric Swalwell is not and almost certainly never will be trusted with the launch codes for America’s nuclear arsenal.

But it’s perhaps not surprising that he could be so cavalier about subjects many gun-owning Americans take very seriously. Despite the political left’s mantras of tolerance, diversity, and inclusion, many are proudly ignorant of and indifferent to the types of lives led by millions of ordinary Americans who happen not to inhabit America’s largest coastal cities.

Also weighing into Swalwell’s Twitter debacle this week was Nina Burleigh, Newsweek’s national politics correspondent and, according to her official Newsweek bio, “an award-winning journalist and the author of five books.”

With such impressive journalistic credentials covering U.S. politics, you would think that Ms. Burleigh would have at least caught on that AR-15s and similar guns are common and popular firearms in America, even if she didn’t know that they are in fact America’s most popular class of rifles.

But to think so would be overestimating Nina Burleigh.

As Swalwell attempted to reframe his initial tweet, Burleigh leapt to his defense with a tweet of her own aimed at the NRA’s Dana Loesch: “Almost every single person I’ve ever heard of with an AR-15 has been a mass murderer. Based on Twitter sample the rest of them are scarily paranoid. Get on the right side of history.”

And even if it’s possible that Burleigh herself doesn’t personally know a single one of the many, many millions of Americans who own and lawfully use AR-15s and other semiautomatic rifles, you might think she would have at least read about some of them, again considering she works in the media.

For example, she might have read about Stephen Willeford, who used his AR-15 to end a mass shooting in a Texas church and to prevent the perpetrator from escaping.

There’s also Sarah Merkle, who as a 15-year-old testified against the then-pending ban in Maryland on AR-15s and similar semiautomatic rifles. She explained that the AR-15 was the type of rifle she used as a member of the Maryland State Rifle Team and that her competitive accomplishments provided her with college scholarship opportunities she otherwise would not have had. She also explained that rifles of any type are used in only a very small percentage of firearm-related homicides in the U.S.

Also making the news as an AR-15 owner was U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), who during the debate over the Democrats’ proposed “assault weapons” ban in 2013 noted that “I own an AR-15 and I have done nothing wrong by owning the gun.”

Of course, we cannot rule out the possibility that Burleigh was also joking and that we just aren’t sophisticated to understand her rapier-like wit.

Call us party poopers, but we just don’t see anything funny about politicians and reporters whose idea of a joke is threatening to bomb fellow Americans or slandering law-abiding Americans for exercising their constitutional rights.
 
He’s not the first to recommend extermination of those that oppose the citified agenda of those that would crush our rights in a moment just as long as their own purposes were served.

The bottom line is that they rightfully fear the idea of an armed populace that could resist the destruction of this republic. They feel that they are so close to accomplishing this nepharious mission that it is now safe to begin tendering the idea of removal of a certain portion of the populace in order to complete the task.
 
If they don't kill us, this is how gun owners would look in Smallballs' utopia:

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He is but he is revealing what he and DC think about flyover USA.
They are the omnipotent shits that destroy states like CA and eventually the US. They do not want anyone with the ability to hold them accountable, especially by a bullet. This is not about concern for the people or “Kids”. If they were concerned they’d talk about banning pools and stopping an average 10 drownings a day - 2 a day are under 14years old.

Three population centers, San Francisco Area, Sac and LA control every political move. As such it easy to motor over everyone. As population centers grow like Austin other states will suffer the same fucked up shit CA has sunk to.

These guys don’t want our guns, they want everything. Complete control and unimpeded with Natzi like power.
 
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Indeed. "Jungle Primaries" and "Ballot Harvesting" have ruined any chance us conservatives have in these blue leaning states. The electoral college process is needed at the state level to turn this around (IMHO), and that is what the libs are frightened of; conservatives having a voice.

While OC and other "traditionally red" counties went blue this last election, I'd wager any gun confiscation would meet an armed insurrection pretty quickly. Even here in liberal southern California.
 
how is it that Iraq has more transparent elections than the USA?

QUOTE="MarinePMI, post: 7368980, member: 39164"]Indeed. "Jungle Primaries" and "Ballot Harvesting" have ruined any chance us conservatives have in these blue leaning states. The electoral college process is needed at the state level to turn this around (IMHO), and that is what the libs are frightened of; conservatives having a voice.

While OC and other "traditionally red" counties went blue this last election, I'd wager any gun confiscation would meet an armed insurrection pretty quickly. Even here in liberal southern California.[/QUOTE]
 
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It wasn't said in jest it was put out there as a prelude for what the government wants to do. My biggest fear is that the gun owning populists will in fact turn over their guns rather then fight. Case in point look at the amount of gun control that has been implemented since the civil war, removal of your second amendment piece by piece.Government is not working for the people but against them, your duty as a American is to remove the government when it stops working for the people.Shall not be infringed is pretty clear, to date ZERO action from gun owing American Patriots. When politicians push gun control their against the constitution which they took a oath to protect, that should be a hangable offense.Short trial to prove they said gun control and then out to the public gallows which would be broadcasted live on TV.
 
He is but he is revealing what he and DC think about flyover USA.

Something interesting that perhaps the idiot level Communists like this congress critter haven't thought about...
So you are going to nuke fly over country to get rid of the resisters....
Actually that would be a perfect help for the resisters HA!

Because where are they going to drop the nukes (which are hugely expensive and comparatively rare)?
Big population centers...... Not farms and vastly spread out counties and suburbs where the nukes would have little net effect.
So... in every state the big population centers are almost always rotten to the core with Communists.......
Considering that without building a bunch of stuff, most of the nukes we currently have ready to go are in the low megaton range, they can nuke away all the big cities in resistive states they want and it will just make it all the easier for the freedom loving type... no more need to worry about the cities..

It's the one interesting part about how the geographic map of hard core Communist "blue" voters are congregated vs. the rest of the landmass of the country that votes red. Everywhere that somebody would think worth nuking (outside of military installations) is their own Communist team.
 
But how does Free America react to these threats? I know what needs to be done, we planned for these eventualities when the enemy was the soviets, many millions of others know what needs to be done when threatened like this, all trained buy the same uncle that this shitferbrains critter thinks he will control... This guy could have already set in motion a series of reactions that nobody can stop or control and none of us would know it until you see it on Fox News. This congress critter is a clear threat to the USA, California's finest..
 
Their worst fear is a person with a gun and the conviction to use it for what is right. That is why they are becoming more vocal and aggressive and why red flag laws are becoming so popular.

The one thing to remember is that as they become more vocal it is easier to put a name with a face.
 
Their worst fear is a person with a gun and the conviction to use it for what is right. That is why they are becoming more vocal and aggressive and why red flag laws are becoming so popular.

The other fear, along the same lines, is a population that will not follow their edicts. Everything in the school system for the past 20+ years is to generate a population who is accustomed to take all rules from the government without hesitation and blindly follow their rules. They are generating a population that will tell the government about those that are non-compliant and act as if they are doing good.

In the Bible it talks about the end times and says that people will think what is right is wrong and what wrong is right. The moral fabric of a any society is that they have to agree on what the societal mores will be. And that is no longer the case. We are rubbing against people who try to tell us their version of right/wrong and it conflicts with what we think societal mores should be. In other words, they are trying to tell us what right is and we are looking at them and think, no, that is wrong. It is a clash of beliefs.

The reason socialism must have the state as God is we have to follow the government rules without hesitation. Government must replace God. They tell us a man can become a woman and a woman can become a man and we have to accept it. I look at them like my dog looks at me when I am talking, my head is cocked sideways as if that makes no sense.
 
The other fear, along the same lines, is a population that will not follow their edicts. Everything in the school system for the past 20+ years is to generate a population who is accustomed to take all rules from the government without hesitation and blindly follow their rules.

The problem is when the government tells said population that past rules no longer have to be abided by (which is happening now with sanctuary cities and such), throwing into question which rules/laws are needed to be adhered to and which do not. I think most fail to realize that law (civilization), is based on a social contract. A contract between the individual (who willing agreed to follow said laws for the sake of the common good) and the government/state (who enforces said laws). If a person breaks that contract, they go to jail. If the state breaks that contract....then the whole thing falls apart. Since it is inherently based on trust, there is no other alternative.

With today's media, and literally hundreds of thousands of thousands of cameras in open society, the ability for the government to hide these breaches of trust is rapidly dwindling. A correction or destruction point is coming, and society has yet to determine which it will be.

Meanwhile the wolves are at the gate, waiting for us to be weak enough to attack....
 
As long as Hilary is not in jail we have no law. The wolves are DC, there is only one wolf and its is DC.
You are correct. However, nothing would please me more than to see the bitch in a pant suit behind bars.

The sad fact is that she will probably never go to trial. The reason is because a precedent will have been set. There are plenty of other swamp creatures on both sides of the political aisle who are afraid that the next media firestorm about corruption will involve them.

If I recall my history correctly, that's why Queen Elizabeth did not want to initially have her cousin beheaded. She was afraid that would set a precedent and the ax would fall on her next. Elizabeth eventually acquiesced to Parliament's wishes.

I hope I'm wrong, I'd love to see her behind bars.
 
Yes I only used her as an obvious example, the levy will break and there will be shit tons of hangings for sure, but contained to DC mostly, if that does not happen the big levy will break and many millions across the country will be caught up in the re imposition of Constitutional Law.

It will be bad for the USA at first but disastrous for the world once out attention is 100% focused inwards, look for war between China India or Russia.
 
Yes I only used her as an obvious example, the levy will break and there will be shit tons of hangings for sure, but contained to DC mostly, if that does not happen the big levy will break and many millions across the country will be caught up in the re imposition of Constitutional Law.

It will be bad for the USA at first but disastrous for the world once out attention is 100% focused inwards, look for war between China India or Russia.
Levy ain't goin nowhere . The National Red Flag Law will pass and so will the ability to own firearms in this Country . This qill be the equivalent of the Nazis disarming the Jews . Oh maybe a bit more subtle and with better coverage a blessing from the MSM . Make no mistake this is the line in the sand .
"When they came for the Jews I said nothing ".
 
Now he threatens me with nukes, it's okay. If I threaten to shoot his ass to shut him up, it's a big deal and a crime. But this shows a difference between us: they make threats like this. The average sensible gun owner does not. We are by far the more reserved and less likely to escalate an event based on emotion.

When the war starts, if it happens on my watch, I fully expect to be called a terrorist and a enemy of the state and I will wear that with pride when the time comes. Because a man like that simply cannot denigrate me.

No, he's gonna have to take 'em, and after I repel the first group of thieves with badges, I'll go on the offensive. I prefer peace, but if you bring war to my doorstep, I'll take it back to yours. And you will not be violating the BOR on my property, I don't give a fuck who you are.
 
Yall might want to feign compliance and work on justice on the back end. If you don't want to store good stuff off site you could buy a insurance plan for around $1000
Those 700s are $359 when in stock and the frontier ammo is pretty good stuff. Easy to hit 10" plates at 500
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They like to focus on guns

If it really comes to killing time, there is going to be a lot of people using a lot more effective things in addition to using guns.
If you take a look at our recent experiences in the eternal sandbox combat zone, or other things like Ireland, you see the most effective actions by small groups being done with things other than guns.

We've got a whole advanced civilization worth of stuff to play with.

While you are buying guns and ammo, you might want to work on ideas for how to do things without guns using technology.

To a large extent the effectiveness of your enemy is down to their communication systems, computer software, computer systems and programs. Those fail them and it's a whole new ballgame. They may be rolling up to your house in their brand spanking new battle wagon... but if it just so happens to have it's brakes lock up and run off the road on the way to your house...... (Already a proven attack vector on some vehicles).
 
They like to focus on guns

If it really comes to killing time, there is going to be a lot of people using a lot more effective things in addition to using guns.
If you take a look at our recent experiences in the eternal sandbox combat zone, or other things like Ireland, you see the most effective actions by small groups being done with things other than guns.

We've got a whole advanced civilization worth of stuff to play with.

While you are buying guns and ammo, you might want to work on ideas for how to do things without guns using technology.

To a large extent the effectiveness of your enemy is down to their communication systems, computer software, computer systems and programs. Those fail them and it's a whole new ballgame. They may be rolling up to your house in their brand spanking new battle wagon... but if it just so happens to have it's brakes lock up and run off the road on the way to your house...... (Already a proven attack vector on some vehicles).

An EMP strike would hurt their side 10x more than ours.
 
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They like to focus on guns

If it really comes to killing time, there is going to be a lot of people using a lot more effective things in addition to using guns.
If you take a look at our recent experiences in the eternal sandbox combat zone, or other things like Ireland, you see the most effective actions by small groups being done with things other than guns.

We've got a whole advanced civilization worth of stuff to play with.

While you are buying guns and ammo, you might want to work on ideas for how to do things without guns using technology.

To a large extent the effectiveness of your enemy is down to their communication systems, computer software, computer systems and programs. Those fail them and it's a whole new ballgame. They may be rolling up to your house in their brand spanking new battle wagon... but if it just so happens to have it's brakes lock up and run off the road on the way to your house...... (Already a proven attack vector on some vehicles).
Everyone seems to forget the IRA. Good work.
 
IMHO, we, as gun owners, need to be more proactive rather than reactive.

In simpler terms, we need to go on the offensive. How we do that, I don't know. But playing zone prevent is yielding the same results it usually does on the gridiron.
 
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What never ceases to amaze me is the amount of hubris these jag-offs operate with. All the while, with (probable) skeletons in their closet....:rolleyes:
It obviously has gone over many of their heads that these kinds of things always come out, sooner or later. There is no way in this day and age to keep things like sexual harassment and associated lawsuits buried forever. Bill Clinton is the poster boy for that. Just what the hell did you think was going to happen bubber ?......
 
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What never ceases to amaze me is the amount of hubris these jag-offs operate with. All the while, with (probable) skeletons in their closet....:rolleyes:
It obviously has gone over many of their heads that these kinds of things always come out, sooner or later. There is no way in this day and age to keep things like sexual harassment and associated lawsuits buried forever. Bill Clinton is the poster boy for that. Just what the hell did you think was going to happen bubber ?......
It would seem to be a dose of child psychology.
Trouble makers are always screaming about what others are doing to keep the focus off their transgressions.

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that pic is not needed in this thread, the 90s weer the apex of gov overreach but the response by Mcveigh was not right either.
It gets the point across well.

Besides, that's what war looks like. Isn't it?
 
yeah but we are not discussing that here we are discussing the threat by a shitbird congress critter who should be removed from office for threatening Americans with deadly force, putting anything up there that distracts from his offense is not helpful. a bit of psyop here, let the enemy fail and dont help them out with counterarguments, keep that argument for the right time.