Rifle Scopes I need optics advice for latest rifle, please

lostangel

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Remington 700 5R in .308 (I took the 300 Win Mag back, for several reasons)
My eyesight isn't what it used to be.
I am very new to precision rifles and also to long range shooting. For years, my shooting consisted of killing Bambi every year and shooting at the 1-300 yard range we have here locally. Usually with AR15 or pistols. Rifle consisted of zero in my deer rifle (.308/243,270, etc) a few months before deer season.

So, I guess my question is, what magnification do I really need for long range (800-1000 yards) assuming I find someplace to shoot that far and I learn to shoot well enough to hit the paper at that range.

I would prefer the FFP, as I will assume (you know what happens when you do that) that since I will almost always be alone, I will have to call my own shots and ranges.

Or if I go with SFP, I can get more mag for less money. Also, NF only has the one FFP scope and it is 5-15X only.

If I go with the SFP, at what mag do NF callibrate their reticles?

Now the Leupold FFP scopes have more mag options, but it seems, from reading posts here for a while, that their quality isn't what it used to be?

Or I can keep saving my cash and maybe find a USO used for sale, here or elsewhere.

I know the 308 doesn't have the legs that the 300 winmag does. I also am not intending to do any long range competitive shooting. This is just for long range deer hunting and paper punching and setting off the little tubes of tannerite at 3-400 yards. I love to watch things go boom.

Thanks

Patrick
 
Re: I need optics advice for latest rifle, please

I prefer a bit more magnification than OutlawTen5. I run a NF 5.5-22. It is only SFP so if I do any ranging I have to set it at the highest magnification.

I couldn't be more pleased as I believe it offers the best performance for the money. And while I love the S&B or the Premier, it is my opinion that the law of diminishing returns has set in for me with those two brands.
 
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10X will get you out to 1000. 15X, 20X, and 25X are just a luxury.
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Take a pair of variable-power binoculars with you to the range. Make sure they have 10X, 15X, 20X, and 25X magnification. Set the binos on each power and see which one you like the most for your needs and level of eyesight.
 
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Here's what a 700 SS looks like with Seekins base & rings and a Premier 3-15X50 mounted on it. You've got a great rifle for the money and might well consider something like this. If cost is an issue also consider the upcoming Vortex PSTs.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: modifier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">10X will get you out to 1000. 15X, 20X, and 25X are just a luxury.
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Take a pair of variable-power binoculars with you to the range. Make sure they have 10X, 15X, 20X, and 25X magnification. Set the binos on each power and see which one you like the most for your needs and level of eyesight. </div></div>
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Keep in mind that high magnification narrows the field of view, dims the image, and makes mirage more of a problem. Point being high magnification can be good or bad depending on what you are looking for. People who prefer really high magnification are usually shooting at paper.

3.5-15x NF would be a fantastic choice.
 
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I went through the same decision process you're now going through. It was between the NF FFP scope and a USO SN-3 3.2-17x. I went with the USO. I'm waiting on the mount (which should be here today) so I have no impression of it mounted with use, but just the fit and finish is superb. I also like the fact USO is a smaller intimate company.
 
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No budget per se. I have $1000 in a saving account now for this purpose. I can put back about $800-1000 a month for this. Just a matter of patience.

TheSamurai, how long did the USO scope take to get in after you ordered it, or did you buy used? Once I have the money in hand, I won't have much patience left lol.

ETA USO is more money, seeing as how I like the $400 Horus reticle.

I wonder if Larue Tacticle mount will fit USO optics?

LT 113

with LT 104
 
Re: I need optics advice for latest rifle, please

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wild_Man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You mentioned looking for somewhere to shoot long-range. Did you know that the Rifles Only range outside of Kingsville is associated with Snipershide? </div></div>


Yeah, but that is about 2 hour drive for me. Long way to go for a day of shooting.
 
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I'm a big fan of USO's myself. One of the best things about USO is that if the scope is a USO, USO stands behind it, PERIOD.
I'd recommend getting a decent scope to be shooting now and save up for a USO. SWFA SS scopes are excellent scopes for those on a budget, and SWFA (riflescopes.com) will most likely take them back in on a trade towards a pricier scope if you take care of them.
In addition to used scopes coming up here frequently, SWFA also sells used scopes at www.samplelist.com
They just had a used SN3, but that's recently become unavailble
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It wouldn't do you much good to show up.

Rifles Only is not a range facility. There are neither range fees nor memberships.

It's a training facility. Shooting on Rifles Only is associated with classes or competitions.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lostangel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
TheSamurai, how long did the USO scope take to get in after you ordered it, or did you buy used? Once I have the money in hand, I won't have much patience left lol.

I wonder if Larue Tacticle mount will fit USO optics?

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A couple of days... I ordered it from Midwayusa. I also have the LaRue LT-158. It's designed for the "AR-10" type rifles. I couldn't be happier... oh, well, maybe if I was out shooting instead of heading to work.