I Spy New Baby Razor G3 4-24

Then they should make this scope stand out from the crowd it's joining into. The easiest way would be it's weight class. The razor HD LHT 4.5-21 is 21oz, pretty decent glass, but turrets lack majorly, and they have zero retention issues. This scope will likely rectify those issue, but at a smaller objective(44mm correct?) and 11oz weight penalty. I guess I'm just disappointed hoping this scope was going to be something that vortex never planned it to turn out as.
If it's similar to the 6-36 won't it stand out based on FOV, eyebox, and easy to use controls?
 
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If it's similar to the 6-36 won't it stand out based on FOV, eyebox, and easy to use controls?
The fov on a 6-36 isn't any better than tangent 35X or NF 35X. I don't expect the eyebox to be great on a 12.5" long 6x erector 4-24, physics will not be in its favor. I don't think the gen3 has any easy to use controls that set it apart, do you? The turret locks sucked for the first year, plus the zeroing system is as out of norm as you can get.

I have 4 of the 6-36 gen3s. They're a good scope, I also have the $1300 delta 3.5-21 which is most likely the bones of this new vortex, as it's low japan made. I'll likely get this new gen3 4-24 and run it through it's paces, if it's not $1k better in my eyes over the Delta, it'll get passed onto someone else.
 
The fov on a 6-36 isn't any better than tangent 35X or NF 35X. I don't expect the eyebox to be great on a 12.5" long 6x erector 4-24, physics will not be in its favor. I don't think the gen3 has any easy to use controls that set it apart, do you? The turret locks sucked for the first year, plus the zeroing system is as out of norm as you can get.

I have 4 of the 6-36 gen3s. They're a good scope, I also have the $1300 delta 3.5-21 which is most likely the bones of this new vortex, as it's low japan made. I'll likely get this new gen3 4-24 and run it through it's paces, if it's not $1k better in my eyes over the Delta, it'll get passed onto someone else.

The Gen 3 controls are easy to use and zeroing is easy as well. Loosen one screw and adjust and then tighten it. Yeah out of the norm and that’s a good thing as it’s very easy to use. Turret locks were fixed after the first run years ago so not even worth bringing up. They learned from that so highly doubt the new 4-24 will have that issue.

Having used other 4-25s with good eye boxes I see no reason why this scope should be any difference being a 4-24.
 
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Pretty sure 31 ounces was the weight being talked about in this thread so 32 is not some huge difference. It’s 1 ounce. lol It’s still a good weight at 32 ounces for what most all will use it for. Let’s not get all worked up over an ounce. lol
Most folks don't realize it is much easier to loose an ounce or 2 in their gut then trying to squeeze an extra ounce out of their rifle system. Just food for thought.
 
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The fov on a 6-36 isn't any better than tangent 35X or NF 35X.
I think the R3's AFOV is only one degree better than the NF but is 2 degrees better than the TT. For whatever that's worth being a 5-10% difference.

I don't think the gen3 has any easy to use controls that set it apart, do you?
I think I'm a bit biased since I'm comparing my R3 to my NF 7-35. The magnification doesn't turn the whole eyepiece, the illumination isn't push button, and the zero-stop system is considerably more idiotproof/easy to use.
plus the zeroing system is as out of norm as you can get.
I REALLY like the R3 zeroing system though so I guess we just differ there. In fairness it doesn't help that my NF's zero-stop is non-functional right now since it came (new in box) with galling in the internal threads that prevent the clutch from rotating all the way down. I'm sending it to NF for repair after an important hunt I want to use the NF for in a few weeks.
 
Most folks don't realize it is much easier to loose an ounce or 2 in their gut then trying to squeeze an extra ounce out of their rifle system. Just food for thought.
My theory (and not pointing fingers at anyone specific) is deeeep down, some folks want an excuse to not buy X gear for some combo of:
  • Autistic fixation on specs
  • Not doing the thing (yet) that they want the scope for (like sheep hunting), and
  • Using the fact that X scope doesn’t exist as an excuse for not doing said activity (sheep hunting), because
  • They aren’t committed to said activity, and
  • Ultimately, irritatingly, confusingly, not wanting to spend the $ if X gear exists
If you literally cannot afford it, it get it. If you are cheap, I don’t get it, and the whole discussion quickly devolves into a whinge-fest.

Cue whinging…lol
 
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maybe we should all just wait to see the actual specifications (and verify them) before we get our pant!es in a twist.

I just want a nice optic for a gas gun. I was looking at the Steiner T6xi 3-18 and NF 4-16x42 but might wait a bit and throw some more money at one of these (after I wait and see what the actual street price and true specs are). I'd prefer it to be a 3x on the bottom end (or even a 2.5 if I'm being honest) but can probably figure out a way to make the 4-24 work.
 
maybe we should all just wait to see the actual specifications (and verify them) before we get our pant!es in a twist.

I just want a nice optic for a gas gun. I was looking at the Steiner T6xi 3-18 and NF 4-16x42 but might wait a bit and throw some more money at one of these (after I wait and see what the actual street price and true specs are). I'd prefer it to be a 3x on the bottom end (or even a 2.5 if I'm being honest) but can probably figure out a way to make the 4-24 work.
There are spec sheets floating around in the wild, I saw one yesterday. Everything already posted in this thread is pretty spot on. 32oz, 31' - 5ish' FOV at 100 yards, same xmas tree reticle.
 
maybe we should all just wait to see the actual specifications (and verify them) before we get our pant!es in a twist.

I just want a nice optic for a gas gun. I was looking at the Steiner T6xi 3-18 and NF 4-16x42 but might wait a bit and throw some more money at one of these (after I wait and see what the actual street price and true specs are). I'd prefer it to be a 3x on the bottom end (or even a 2.5 if I'm being honest) but can probably figure out a way to make the 4-24 work.
Yeah, after this one I'd love to see a G3 in the 3-18X range.