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I'm willing to bet its a political stall tactic.

Agree with them a little and take the air out of their balloon before it pops. Instead of full speed ahead, they start to deter and time passes, things come up, the emotional bullshit is over.

Then by the time things are 'worked out' in our snails pace political theater, more time will have passed and just like every other disaster, people move on.

Then you're too busy, or 'we tried' or it just didn't happen. Sorry.
 
I'm willing to bet its a political stall tactic.

Agree with them a little and take the air out of their balloon before it pops. Instead of full speed ahead, they start to deter and time passes, things come up, the emotional bullshit is over.

Then by the time things are 'worked out' in our snails pace political theater, more time will have passed and just like every other disaster, people move on.

Then you're too busy, or 'we tried' or it just didn't happen. Sorry.
i dont buy it. Trumps ego makes him want to be loved by everyone. i think he would do anything to get the praise he so desperately needs.
 
I'm willing to bet its a political stall tactic.

Agree with them a little and take the air out of their balloon before it pops. Instead of full speed ahead, they start to deter and time passes, things come up, the emotional bullshit is over.

Then by the time things are 'worked out' in our snails pace political theater, more time will have passed and just like every other disaster, people move on.

Then you're too busy, or 'we tried' or it just didn't happen. Sorry.
theres only so long yall can play the "hes playing chess" excuse

the constitution isnt a pawn......its the fucking king, and you dont win chess by sacrificing your king
 
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It's a guess but I'm thinking it looks something like this:

- Blah blah yeah sure we can look at some stuff

- Stuff is written in Congress where 90% of it doesn't leave committee because its that retarded

- Other 10% has to pass a republican house/senate and fails

- Trump: 'we tried, sorry'

While this what I hope is happening, I'm actually really disappointed in him right now regardless.
 
It's a guess but I'm thinking it looks something like this:

- Blah blah yeah sure we can look at some stuff

- Stuff is written in Congress where 90% of it doesn't leave committee because its that retarded

- Other 10% has to pass a republican house/senate and fails

- Trump: 'we tried, sorry'

While this what I hope is happening, I'm actually really disappointed in him right now regardless.

Look at Framkensteins face. Thats all you need to know.

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here you guys go flying off the handle...yet again. come on.
It's a guess but I'm thinking it looks something like this:

- Blah blah yeah sure we can look at some stuff

- Stuff is written in Congress where 90% of it doesn't leave committee because its that retarded

- Other 10% has to pass a republican house/senate and fails

- Trump: 'we tried, sorry'

While this what I hope is happening, I'm actually really disappointed in him right now regardless.

^ this.
i dont know that i have it in me to talk you guys off the ledge....i am doubting it would do any good for your dispostions anyway.

i aint getting excited about much of anything until i see a reason to. and people running around like chicken little doesnt quite qualify as legit reason to me.
 
here you guys go flying off the handle...yet again. come on.


^ this.
i dont know that i have it in me to talk you guys off the ledge....i am doubting it would do any good for your dispostions anyway.

i aint getting excited about much of anything until i see a reason to. and people running around like chicken little doesnt quite qualify as legit reason to me.

I would agree with this. I recently saw a story where he supposedly said confiscate them and worry about the due process later. To me that screams chess move. Just the kind of thing that will have the other side frothing at the mouth. But last I checked the due process clause is still in the constitution and while the courts might have a tendency to infringe on the second the fifth doesn't get that treatment. No way something like that happens without the court laughing it out of the chambers. Maybe, just maybe they let it slide if it's some extreme case of the dangerous behavior. But even then after you take them they will be in court defending that action.

He likes to hear himself talk. I've come to learn it's better to watch what he does not what he says.

Maybe I'm wrong but I'm not ganna start panicking just yet.
 
starting to wonder if theres any real difference between the two now.....

if hes going to fold like a wet noodle.....what difference does it make?

I'll start by saying I was a Cruz guy...

I'm sure you're saying this tongue and cheek, but Trumps Judge appointments alone is enough to put that shit to bed. Trump is a non-idealistic ego maniac. He isn't grounded in left or right BUT he has gotten a lot of movement in the agenda. Not perfect implementation, but the enemy of good is perfect. The bleeding is slowly stopping. I dispise the deficit spending, and disagree with any path to citizenship for "dreamers " but I do think the tax cuts will raise tax revenue and I think people who really were dragged here when they were little kids should have a way to stay legally. (maybe I'm getting soft)

IMO, a lot of what Trump does is diversionary. "let's talk about my retarded tweet instead of my gutting the EPAs bullshit policy". I can't tell if he is a dip shit, lead to the right path or if he's fucking brilliant, leading the press around by the nose.
 
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Funny how so many fools out there were shitting their pants in fear for 8 years of Obama's presidency that guns were gonna be taken away. Did any major gun laws get sign in? Nope. Trump been Prez for only a year and we are already getting the rifle age raised to 21 and ban on certain stocks. Bet Trump lovers have enough egg on their faces now to make an omelette.
 
...... "let's talk about my retarded tweet instead of my gutting the EPAs bullshit policy". I can't tell if he is a dip shit, lead to the right path or if he's fucking brilliant, leading the press around by the nose.

time will tell. to date, it's been him being brilliant and leading them around by the nose. and in light of that, i am just going to relax and keep a watchful eye.
 
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As a former Trump supporter, I'm done. Fuck Trump. The man has reverted to his New York liberal roots, including his lifelong support of gun control.

I hope Mueller brings the hammer down on this piece of shit. I'd rather a real, genuine conservative like Pence.
 
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Nothing these politicians do surprises me . They all lie, say whatever they can to got the votes and do whatever they choose regardless of what they have promised. To say I told you so about people supporting trump is pointless. Of the roughly 325 million people in the United States we were given the choice of eating a round turd and a square turd without knowing what was eaten to produce the turd. Most people just picked the turd that didn't smell as bad and looked slightly less grotesque. Additionally the nutritional content of the one turd seemed like a slightly healthier option.
 
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When we live in a Kingdom, I will care about Trump's ranting and tweeting til then, we may be in fear of losing our rights, but ask yourself this.... What have we lost? SCOTUS has taken nada, yes I know it may sound naive, but hyperbole produces nothing but emotions.
When we “live in a kingdom”.....it’s already too late to give a shit.

NOW is when you need to give a shit.....so stop making excuses and get off your ass
 
This needs to play out.

I dont think Trump is the ninja master strategic thinker multi level chess player but he has been good at exposing he can say "Yes" to the Democrats and the next minute they expose their obstructionist selves by saying "Yes isnt good enough" and nothing changes but people see Chuck Schumer with his glasses sliding down his nose looking like an ass saying "Getting what we wanted isnt good enough".

Schumer has already made a statement that the proposed gun control isnt enough even though it includes increased background checks, bump stock bans and age limitations.

Reasonable people, ie people that are on neither side of the issue and dont realize the danger of losing rights, see Schumers act and start to get turned off.

It happened after Trump offered amnesty to 1.8 million dreamers. Schumer said not good enough even though it doubles the people Obam protected. Next thing you know dreamer spokespeople are saying Trump is a good guy and the DACA debate has died and gone away. Hopefully deportations start soon.
 
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Guys, I am as concerned as you are. Time will tell where Trump really stands.
In the meantime, let's focus on the first box, the soap box, that stands in the court of public opinion.
We are losing badly there because where we "preach" nobody but our choir hears us.
So let's get out there, call our senators/representatives and join the ranks and actions of a pro 2A organization.
Don't sit idle if the actions of the NRA disappointed you.
ANY pro 2A organization needs our money and activism right NOW.
 
while a bit true, my rights are not subject to public opinion, they are rights not privileges after all.
Agree. I did not suggest to throw the other boxes away.
Just do NOW what matters NOW.
And with all the federal grandstanding, do not forget your local issues. A lot of this shit will happen on the state level if we stay lazy and uninvolved.
 
Since when has anything said in these meetings been so publicized? Am I surprised a New York politician said something like this while talking to crazy crow bag? Not really. Just because the president said it doesn't make it happen. Keep sending your letters to your reps, just like when Obama was in office, they should hold the line. Maybe GOA and the NRA need to add the president to their mailing list for everyone. I am sure he is getting plenty of hash tag retadery.
 
When we “live in a kingdom”.....it’s already too late to give a shit.

NOW is when you need to give a shit.....so stop making excuses and get off your ass
Oh, I am not advocating sitting on our asses at all, I was simply pointing out that Trump is not the Emperor and due process takes a minute to complete. I strongly support the engagement of our politicians through calls and emails. I also strongly ($$$) support the NRA and their lobbying efforts. I apologise if it came across as a lethargic response.
 
Due process does not exist anymore, the law has been usurped by the parties and the deep state, there is no "Justice" anymore. Prepare yourself for the worst because that is becoming a reality forced upon us by this unconstitutional, unlawful government. They will over play their hand and its happening right now.
 
Due process does not exist anymore, the law has been usurped by the parties and the deep state, there is no "Justice" anymore. Prepare yourself for the worst because that is becoming a reality forced upon us by this unconstitutional, unlawful government. They will over play their hand and its happening right now.

Make sure you put on your protective helmet and go to your bunker in the woods.