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If Trump signs this Bill the USA is done forever

I remember when we first started stopping Uhauls loaded with Illegals the most in Arkansas in the late 80's and 90's for chicken factory production. Then when Clinton got in the Border Patrol would not come and pick them up anymore. Clinton was buds with Don Tyson and the flood of Tyson workers came. You think the Nationwide ID by ICE has issues, you try to ID and put them in Prison when they have six or so AKA's and fake SS #'s. We found the only to ID them was to keep what we called a "File" and fingerprint records. This was before we got online with the National database of electronic fingerprinting. Now the Feds have facial recog and I will leave it to your imagination what else they have but I do know there is tech ongoing for phone ID fingerprinting too. Basically, if you go anywhere they can see you, especially in larger Cities with intersection cameras etc. Satellite Tech is amazing too and any Soldier veteran who was in recent Wars know that. Bill Clinton really opened the can of works and little George let them all come in too. Sometimes I wonder if little George was from Kenya too. lol
 
Something to consider about the wall:
Why was it only an emergency when the blue team had some wins at midterms?

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How the fuck does the red team negotiate this abortion of a bill?

The poison pills within it are atrocious.

Orange fuck should have vetoed it and let them over ride than declared an emergency anyway.

I think the only way to get Mitch the bitch to go along with the Emergency declaration was to sign the bill.

I get it Trump is swimming in a sea of enemies but if he thinks anyone is going to go Kumbaya and make peace with him he is nuts.

He might as well do like the Brits did and burn Washington to the foundations out of spite.
 
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I remember when we first started stopping Uhauls loaded with Illegals the most in Arkansas in the late 80's and 90's for chicken factory production. Then when Clinton got in the Border Patrol would not come and pick them up anymore. Clinton was buds with Don Tyson and the flood of Tyson workers came. You think the Nationwide ID by ICE has issues, you try to ID and put them in Prison when they have six or so AKA's and fake SS #'s. We found the only to ID them was to keep what we called a "File" and fingerprint records. This was before we got online with the National database of electronic fingerprinting. Now the Feds have facial recog and I will leave it to your imagination what else they have but I do know there is tech ongoing for phone ID fingerprinting too. Basically, if you go anywhere they can see you, especially in larger Cities with intersection cameras etc. Satellite Tech is amazing too and any Soldier veteran who was in recent Wars know that. Bill Clinton really opened the can of works and little George let them all come in too. Sometimes I wonder if little George was from Kenya too. lol

Ron Brown thinks your nuts....
 
How the fuck does the red team negotiate this abortion of a bill?

The poison pills within it are atrocious.

Orange fuck should have vetoed it and let them over ride than declared an emergency anyway.

I think the only way to get Mitch the bitch to go along with the Emergency declaration was to sign the bill.

I get it Trump is swimming in a sea of enemies but if he thinks anyone is going to go Kumbaya and make peace with him he is nuts.

He might as well do like the Brits did and burn Washington to the foundations out of spite.
1. Understatment of this year
2. Yep, put it back in their laps and Mitch the bitch eat the shit sandwich.
3. Fuck Mitch and the rest of those Rhino cocksuckers, they've been selling our asses out since ever...
4. Only the President can declare an emergency and he should know by now they hate his guts.
5. Good idea, but it will be up to us when we've had enough.

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The government shut down for 35 days under Trump. That's a win. And the fear that illegals will cause some tidal wave of blue votes can be argued. Most of the illegals folks are worried about are hispanic, those hispanics are Catholic and largely more conservative than people who currently occupy our cities.
Oh, and they can't vote. (People will argue that voting rules are not being enforced which is a valid concern but statistically insignificant)
 
The government shut down for 35 days under Trump. That's a win. And the fear that illegals will cause some tidal wave of blue votes can be argued. Most of the illegals folks are worried about are hispanic, those hispanics are Catholic and largely more conservative than people who currently occupy our cities.
Oh, and they can't vote. (People will argue that voting rules are not being enforced which is a valid concern but statistically insignificant)
Cite your info on insignificance on illegal/voter fraud.

R
 
Cite your info on insignificance on illegal/voter fraud.

R
Which experts are you willing to listen to? You have the right to ignore all evidence put in front of you.
I don't want to post a bunch of investigatory links from the DOJ if all you believe is Mother or Alex Jones.
 
Which experts are you willing to listen to? You have the right to ignore all evidence put in front of you.
I don't want to post a bunch of investigatory links from the DOJ if all you believe is Mother or Alex Jones.
Go troll somewhere else . Bottom line is you would lick a boot before hang your ass out in the cool breezy for God , Country and Family . Why would you frequent a gun forum if you support the illegal seeding of the voter base . Dems equal anti IIA . I am really surprised that you've lasted this long here .
 
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Which experts are you willing to listen to? You have the right to ignore all evidence put in front of you.
I don't want to post a bunch of investigatory links from the DOJ if all you believe is Mother or Alex Jones.


Sriki,

If the dems were not using the presence of the illegals to their advantage than why fight to prevent having a question on the census to wit "Are you a citizen?"

These liberal shitholes are using the non citizens to gain representation in congress.

I dont want non citizens cancelling out any citizens vote or representation.

If 100K non citizens in California mean another congressional representative at the cost of one in Wyoming or some such place than I want them excluded from the process.

Its getting to the point that the Communists consider the USA such that the whole world has voting rights. Like everyone in China should be able to decide how our country should be run to atone for our sins.
 
@Alphatreedog Well you're basically being riled up for nothing. If you enjoy it by all means. I don't get why people refuse to look at the evidence that shows why it's not happening (in the massive scales that could actually affect a vote). Could it happen in the future? Sure. Are we working on ways to prevent it? Yes, to the point where real Americans are being prevented from voting. Is it something we should monitor? Hell yes. But to the point where we spend money on an inneffective fence? You can decide.
 
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Sriki,

If the dems were not using the presence of the illegals to their advantage than why fight to prevent having a question on the census to wit "Are you a citizen?"

These liberal shitholes are using the non citizens to gain representation in congress.

I dont want non citizens cancelling out any citizens vote or representation.

Its getting to the point that the Communists consider the USA such that the whole world has voting rights. Like everyone in China should be able to decide how our country should be run to atone for our sins.
This is a great point. I naively thought the purpose of a census is just to have a great survey of the American populace (whether citizens or no) and that's it. But the results of the census are being applied to predict how to redistrict Congress, distribute resources, etc.

We are in agreement that only citizens of the U.S.A. should have the right to vote.

We are in disagreement about the CURRENT severity of the problem.

Asking "are you a U.S. citizen" seems counterproductive on the census, ESPECIALLY if you want to find out how many non-citizens are in this country.

Simple solution: U.S. passport or birth certificate when you vote for the U.S.A., state credentials for state elections. Why are we overcomplicating this?
 
Watching different news outlets and seeing the left turn up the noise about the porn star and Russia . And if I heard right a blurb about a shooting . They're going full bullshit agenda press .. Ha CNN special report President under fire , the impeachment of Trump . Here we fuckin go .
 
This is a great point. I naively thought the purpose of a census is just to have a great survey of the American populace (whether citizens or no) and that's it. But the results of the census are being applied to predict how to redistrict Congress, distribute resources, etc.

We are in agreement that only citizens of the U.S.A. should have the right to vote.

We are in disagreement about the CURRENT severity of the problem.

Asking "are you a U.S. citizen" seems counterproductive on the census, ESPECIALLY if you want to find out how many non-citizens are in this country.

Simple solution: U.S. passport or birth certificate when you vote for the U.S.A., state credentials for state elections. Why are we overcomplicating this?

Its not complicated. Anytime someone even whispers about implementing new, common sense voting regulations, the democrats cry "racism". Illegals voting beneifits the democrats 100%. If not, why do they fight new voting regs ideas tooth and nail?
 
Yea just saw that, asshole went postal. Aside from the real victims, the rest is just noise.
Voting numbers in districts.
Let's start in Kali, seems for years many are over 100% registration.
Let that last number sink in.
When have you heard of 100% of the voters showning up in any election?
On a post in the pit recently there were shown 55kish illegal votes in Texas.
Add these up across the country and it's not a stretch to watch the pop vote fall back into Trumps side.
As mentioned above, if you don't think illegals are voting explain the completely one sided results in Kali for the last couple of decades.
In their desire for power they'll sell even grandma to attain more.

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My concern is with the national emergency declaration, what stops the next dem president from declaring gun violence a national emergency? Or health care?

Id like to see a dem president declare a national emergency over "gun violence". Then youll really see gun violence. As in 2A guys mopping the floor with all these POS politicians, skinny jean wearing nutless douche bags and their pussy hat wearing sisters. They dont have a big enough security force to save their ass. We know who they are. And where they live.


As i said before. I dare them.
 
Declaring an executive order over guns would be a constitutional infringement. But declaring one over American security is not. Granted the aclu has already filed suit against the wall and the dems don’t seem to give a shit about the constitution anyway.
 
Id like to see a dem president declare a national emergency over "gun violence". Then youll really see gun violence. As in 2A guys mopping the floor with all these POS politicians, skinny jean wearing nutless douche bags and their pussy hat wearing sisters. They dont have a big enough security force to save their ass. We know who they are. And where they live.


As i said before. I dare them.
You are singin ma fuckin song Brother .
 
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I mean, a Dem POTUS declaring a gun violence national emergency would quickly become a racist proposal. The facts will come out quickly about actual rates of violence. And it won't paint a pretty picture for Dems and their voter base.
 
I mean, a Dem POTUS declaring a gun violence national emergency would quickly become a racist proposal. The facts will come out quickly about actual rates of violence. And it won't paint a pretty picture for Dems and their voter base.
Facts have never mattered to the Dems . In fact qith their ability to spin and dazzle I'm surprized that Nancy , Chuck and a few others don't comprise the Harlem Globetrotters .
 
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Repubs are just as bad,,, remember who the members are of these two enemy groups... never forget .... they are the enemies of our republic

Facts have never mattered to the Dems . In fact qith their ability to spin and dazzle I'm surprized that Nancy , Chuck and a few others don't comprise the Harlem Globetrotters .
 
This is a great point. I naively thought the purpose of a census is just to have a great survey of the American populace (whether citizens or no) and that's it. But the results of the census are being applied to predict how to redistrict Congress, distribute resources, etc.

We are in agreement that only citizens of the U.S.A. should have the right to vote.

We are in disagreement about the CURRENT severity of the problem.

Asking "are you a U.S. citizen" seems counterproductive on the census, ESPECIALLY if you want to find out how many non-citizens are in this country.

Simple solution: U.S. passport or birth certificate when you vote for the U.S.A., state credentials for state elections. Why are we overcomplicating this?


Thats one side of the coin.

If liberal shot hole California boosts its population by counting citizens than maybe some small conservative state with 4 reps loses one.

Thats taking away from the representation of the smaller state in error.

Base representation off citizens only than the question becomes harmless.

The Dems no that the non citizens count that is why they are fighting the question.

and I agree with ID to vote.

We are overcomplicating thsi because the political parties are gaming the system to the advantage of party at the cost to the People's desire for fair elections.
 
@Alphatreedog Well you're basically being riled up for nothing. If you enjoy it by all means. I don't get why people refuse to look at the evidence that shows why it's not happening (in the massive scales that could actually affect a vote). Could it happen in the future? Sure. Are we working on ways to prevent it? Yes, to the point where real Americans are being prevented from voting. Is it something we should monitor? Hell yes. But to the point where we spend money on an inneffective fence? You can decide.
if fences don't work, how come everyone that want's to keep folks off their property has one?
 
if fences don't work, how come everyone that want's to keep folks off their property has one?
Israel is currently adding to theirs which is quoted as being 99% effective, ( i believe congress just voted to send them 50 billion to help with it) The great wall of china is effective and has lasted how long? , i think there was a wall called the Berlin wall that lasted 28 years and was basically 100% effective. Every high ranking Dem condeming this wall including the last POS that occupied the white house, have walls surrouding their homes. If u would like a "stupid" sign to put on your back, i think i can find one.
 
I don't get it, Trump did not have to sign this POS bill, The treasonous congress and house had a veto proof vote so why not let them own it and still declare an emergency? why put your signature on it when you don't have to? specially on something like this...

His fucking libtard son in law has to go. and there is no excuse for taking his advise I hold Trump responsible for this one.
 
Everyone needs to go back to post #3 and reread it. BOTH repubs and dems came up with this garbage. It's kind of like trump got told he got his 1.63 bil then signed off on it.....without reading any of the rest of it.

Vote him out.
 
The swamp is mighty deep. We just had a top level FBI agent admit to a soft coup of the president of the United States and he is not in handcuffs.
The swamp includes the repukians as well as the democrap. He will still need some help to get things done in the next two years. If elected again in 2020. He may let the chips fall and burn down the repukians also. But for now it's politics. They have enough votes to overcome the veto.
 
There is this where the WH tells the congress on a couple points in the new law to piss off. I don't see any piss off points on immigration policy though. Maybe its more a placating smokescreen for his base to ignore the more damaging points still in the bill?

Statement by the President - Immigration

Edit: Why we (the nation) let them pack so many unrelated items into bills, or pass things that no one has fully reviewed is beyond me. When Nancy said they didnt have time to fully review obomacare and the rest still passed it, they should have all been immediately recalled.
 
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I'm voting democrat this time around...its all the same in the end. It's just about time for them to start telling their lies again. Not one of them will have a real meeting with citizens. They will all be plants and ask pre-qualified questions.

The last 2 years have been a real let down from trump and congress.
 
I wrote a scathing email to my senator. Basically telling her what a POS she is and that I would vote against her in the primary and if she was on the ballot I will vote democrat.
No sense in delaying the inevitable.
I'm voting democrat this time around...its all the same in the end. It's just about time for them to start telling their lies again. Not one of them will have a real meeting with citizens. They will all be plants and ask pre-qualified questions.

The last 2 years have been a real let down from trump and congress.