Rifle Scopes If you could only have one
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Can I come too?
im so glad we don't have to have only one!
Are you a socal local too Dave??
Better to have it and not need it, than to not have it and say oh shit.....
Never been to burro, but I'm at Angeles a decent bit.
Now if you could only keep 1 of your scopes Dave which would you keep?
Better to have it and not need it, than to not have it and say oh shit.....
I have spent some time behind one of those and it is a great scope, but it does not do anything my PM2 can't do.
The PM2 is priced better and it's easier to mount and is available with the MSR reticle, which makes the choice easy.
Never been to burro, but I'm at Angeles a decent bit.
Now if you could only keep 1 of your scopes Dave which would you keep?
Better to have it and not need it, than to not have it and say oh shit.....
Burro is only good for the private ranges for running and gunning. If your mostly long range, you're not missing anything.
if I could only keep one... it would be the one with the best tracking record and my favorite reticle.
not discounting other brands as I am a great lover of optics, but as a whole, the only brand that has never given me trouble or failed in any way has been nightforce. But they also have my least favorite reticles.
Easy , something very nice and expensive from FLIR . I've never been fortunate
enough to own their really high end stuff , only to have used it at work , awesome gear !
enough to own their really high end stuff , only to have used it at work , awesome gear !
My choice for 1 scope is my NF ATACR 4~16x42F1 MOAR reticle. Reasons are bullet proof, repeatable tracking, excellent glass and good power range for hunting and some long range steel practice.
Right now my dream scope is NF ATACR 4~16x42F1 TreMor3 reticle for my new JP 6 creed to pair up with my 6 creed precision rifle with ATACR 5~25x56F1 TreMor3.
Right now my dream scope is NF ATACR 4~16x42F1 TreMor3 reticle for my new JP 6 creed to pair up with my 6 creed precision rifle with ATACR 5~25x56F1 TreMor3.
I think the 4-16 F1 might be most commonly mentioned scope so far. Interesting that with all the mid power choices, no one has mentioned a S&B Ultra short.
Better to have it and not need it, than to not have it and say oh shit.....
Better to have it and not need it, than to not have it and say oh shit.....
That's cause it's an awesome scope, I love mine, perfect for crossover rig for hunting and plinking..
When I think on such questions as "...only one (insert item name here)...", I try to reduce my goals down to the irreducible; as in, I can do without that, but not without this.
The first thing I can do without is higher magnification. For me, a scope is an aiming device first. Some magnification is why we use a scope in the first place, as opposed to 'metallic' sights. But the ability to put the Aim in Point of Aim is the bare acceptable minimum.
Hunting scopes tend to provide a pretty good minimum common magnification denominator; and they most commonly use a 3-9x power range. I have, and really like, a relatively cheap Tasco 2.5-10x42 MilDot Varmint Target. It's cheap enough to have spares, which is probably a good idea with cheaper scopes, but hasn't turned out to be an imperative with these Tasco Varmint/Target Scopes. They keep on tickin'..
The 6-24x42 version has proved to be quite adequate for 1000yd Competition, but has been upgraded to the 8-32x44 Mueller on my actual comp rifles. Those previously in inventory have ended up gracing the 'Varminty' rifles I have gifted to the next generation of our family. The Bushnell 4-12x40 scopes from the Savage 11VT package rifles have graced the hunters I pass on down. Everything has a purpose and a use.
Why not a costly scope? Because they tend to be coveted, and to generate hesitation (in my instance, anyway) before grab-n-go applications get grabbed and gone. If it causes me even a moment's hesitation, it's too cool for school. This consideration (even though I am a cheapskate at heart), is the actual reason why I do not own, or covet, really pricey optics. I need to shoot now, and not when I can (gulp!) afford to. I need to use something that I would not miss greatly if it happened to intersect with cruel fate. If I can buy one, great; if I can buy several (as I tend to do), even greater.
I do not lack for a spare scope or two, and I have never had a scope fail on me. I have had a few fail to make muster in the first place. These have pretty much all turned out to be cheapo Chinese LER (Long Eye Relief) scopes that were enlisted in a semi-vain attempt to mount 'an optic' on several Mosin-Nagant 91/30's, which not even under the wildest of circumstances were ever going to rate an optic with a price all the way up there in the 3-digit dollar range. They are 'functional', most I can say on the matter. But 'functional' tends to mean that the rifle harvests an average of three deer a year. No despair required.
But this"'There can be only one, Highlander..." mantra is not realistic, at least not within my own narrow universe. I will always have a spare rifle, usually being packed about by a spare family member. Us Elder Farts tend to attract helpers, and as much as I hesitate to admit, the really precision shooting tends to get done (in our family, anyway) by the younger generations these days. At 71, one no longer gets to say "Uncle", one is "uncle".
'S only fair, I say...
Greg
PS, final thought...; NO BATTERIES! I intend to outlive any battery on Earth...
The first thing I can do without is higher magnification. For me, a scope is an aiming device first. Some magnification is why we use a scope in the first place, as opposed to 'metallic' sights. But the ability to put the Aim in Point of Aim is the bare acceptable minimum.
Hunting scopes tend to provide a pretty good minimum common magnification denominator; and they most commonly use a 3-9x power range. I have, and really like, a relatively cheap Tasco 2.5-10x42 MilDot Varmint Target. It's cheap enough to have spares, which is probably a good idea with cheaper scopes, but hasn't turned out to be an imperative with these Tasco Varmint/Target Scopes. They keep on tickin'..
The 6-24x42 version has proved to be quite adequate for 1000yd Competition, but has been upgraded to the 8-32x44 Mueller on my actual comp rifles. Those previously in inventory have ended up gracing the 'Varminty' rifles I have gifted to the next generation of our family. The Bushnell 4-12x40 scopes from the Savage 11VT package rifles have graced the hunters I pass on down. Everything has a purpose and a use.
Why not a costly scope? Because they tend to be coveted, and to generate hesitation (in my instance, anyway) before grab-n-go applications get grabbed and gone. If it causes me even a moment's hesitation, it's too cool for school. This consideration (even though I am a cheapskate at heart), is the actual reason why I do not own, or covet, really pricey optics. I need to shoot now, and not when I can (gulp!) afford to. I need to use something that I would not miss greatly if it happened to intersect with cruel fate. If I can buy one, great; if I can buy several (as I tend to do), even greater.
I do not lack for a spare scope or two, and I have never had a scope fail on me. I have had a few fail to make muster in the first place. These have pretty much all turned out to be cheapo Chinese LER (Long Eye Relief) scopes that were enlisted in a semi-vain attempt to mount 'an optic' on several Mosin-Nagant 91/30's, which not even under the wildest of circumstances were ever going to rate an optic with a price all the way up there in the 3-digit dollar range. They are 'functional', most I can say on the matter. But 'functional' tends to mean that the rifle harvests an average of three deer a year. No despair required.
But this"'There can be only one, Highlander..." mantra is not realistic, at least not within my own narrow universe. I will always have a spare rifle, usually being packed about by a spare family member. Us Elder Farts tend to attract helpers, and as much as I hesitate to admit, the really precision shooting tends to get done (in our family, anyway) by the younger generations these days. At 71, one no longer gets to say "Uncle", one is "uncle".
'S only fair, I say...
Greg
PS, final thought...; NO BATTERIES! I intend to outlive any battery on Earth...
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When you start sending a lot of bullets down range, and need to trust that every adjustment is dead on, you will get away from disposable scopes.
A lot of money is wasted downrange when a scope doesn't do what it's supposed to.
