Sidearms & Scatterguns Im such a gear whore

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captain Moroni</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He never quite says what the "pretravel reduction modification" does.</div></div>

The way I understood it is that it takes all the pre-travle out of the trigger. So as soon as your booger hooker is on the bang switch its ready to rock, with an 1/8th inch travel and an 1/8th inch reset, which is where the 1911 comparison comes into play.
You get a bunch of new parts in the trigger pack, I wonder if they are spec'd out differently to allow such an improvement.
 
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I am interested and skeptical about it. There are a couple guys out there manufacturers know that if they put their name on it the "cult" will buy it. My thing is if he didn't get paid by them would he use it??
 
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I have nothing to contribute here, I'm not a glock fan.
It is the name of the thread that brought me here.

"Gear Whore" doesn't sound right.

It is "Gadget Whore", I'm a gadget whore. Gadget whore, say it 5 times.
All my friends are gadget whores, I am not.
I hope you get some new gadgets for Christmas.
Merry Christmas.
 
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I got a trigger from Glocktriggers.com- the "Edge" trigger- It has about half the pre-travel of a normal trigger, less overtravel and half the reset travel. That's all nice but I found the lighter springs had a bit of a smushy feel, so I ended up using a shortened factory striker spring to bring the snappy feel back.

It's a very nice trigger for Glock- not as good as a good 2.25 lb 1911, but not far off- I wonder if the haley model is different or better?

I think the trigger is actually chrome plated for lubricity- It is shiny, but steel doesn't polish that color and stay corrosion free.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: IdahoMike</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captain Moroni</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He never quite says what the "pretravel reduction modification" does.</div></div>

The way I understood it is that it takes all the pre-travle out of the trigger. So as soon as your booger hooker is on the bang switch its ready to rock, with an 1/8th inch travel and an 1/8th inch reset, which is where the 1911 comparison comes into play.
You get a bunch of new parts in the trigger pack, I wonder if they are spec'd out differently to allow such an improvement. </div></div>

In a glock trigger the pre-travel is actually cocking the striker. If you take out the pre-travel you are basically taking a super safe double action and making it a mostly safe almost single action.

The firing pin block is still there so if something goes wrong with the trigger you still have a fail safe. It is probably a good trigger and when I get it I'll post some pics and a review.
 
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My curiosity is on a couple levels- first, what makes up this kit?

Second, is the trigger modified to such an extent that holstering could prove hazardous? 1911 you have a manual safety, which is one of the only times I feel they are of benefit- BECAUSE of the short trigger pull. Otherwise, I do prefer the lack of manual safety due to the long trigger pull of DA's and striker guns like the glock
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My curiosity is on a couple levels- first, what makes up this kit?

Second, is the trigger modified to such an extent that holstering could prove hazardous? 1911 you have a manual safety, which is one of the only times I feel they are of benefit- BECAUSE of the short trigger pull. Otherwise, I do prefer the lack of manual safety due to the long trigger pull of DA's and striker guns like the glock </div></div>

Short answer (I don't think so).

I can only speak for the "edge" trigger from the same company. It was a complete trigger system swap including striker and safety springs. I swapped the lighter mainspring, for a 3 coils shortened factory spring because the light pull also resulted in a faint squishy trigger reset which to me was not desired. I want the trigger to snap and pop like OEM. I shortened it a couple coils because it was simply resulting a trigger too heavy for something I paid $154 for. I cut 1/2 a coil at a time, reassembling to test subjective feel- wanting to strike a balance between crisp action and excessive pull weight.

Once I did that, the trigger feels like OEM Glock, but has a short reset, short pre-travel, and a overtravel stop and a lighter pull that doesn't at all feel "too light for duty use". I adjusted the over travel stop from where it came stock. I put it together dry fired 10-15 times, and experienced a failure to fire with normal trigger pressure. I backed it off 1/4 turn. I tested it again- 30-40 dry fires it happened again, another 1/4 turn. Now I couldn't get it to fail, so I backed it off another 1/4 turn and called it good- this was less over travel than as it came from glocktriggers.com, which IMO was enough it was only marginally better than OEM Glock.

This resultant trigger IMO is about as safe as OEM glock. The trigger safety is still functional, the firing pin drop safety is functional etc. All it accomplished was a reduction of pre-travel/overtravel/and about 16 ounces of trigger pull weight. (This sounds like I'm marginalizing- in reality this is about all that you can hope to do with the Glock system). Think Glock meets cool Sig short reset trigger.

In order to get the glock to fire when holstering you would need to pull the trigger [and disengage the trigger safety]- so maybe your shirt enters the trigger well and you seat the pistol and the shirt pulls the trigger-

In don't think a pound of pressure is going to make the difference between safe and not safe. What will, is making sure your T shirt is clear of the holster.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Looking at the website it appears the difference between the "Edge" and "Haley skimmer" is that the Edge uses reduced power springs, while the Haley model uses standard springs- also the Haley model does not have adjustable overtravel.

So maybe Haley had the same observation I did- the reduced power springs make the trigger squishy and reduce the reset feel.

I think most of that is the firing pin spring which drives the feel of the system more than any other spring.</span>

Haley talks about it for 12 minutes here:

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