I am shooting IMR-4895 out of my .308, people on here tell me to use Hodgdon (varget or H4895). My question is my load shoots .500 MOA or less, why is Hodgdon better?
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IMR vs Hodgdon
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Re: IMR vs Hodgdon
If it works for you then stick with it. Hodgdon extreme powders tend to be rather temperature insensitive and thus alot of people like them (including me). However I have also used Alliant and IMR powders and had very good luck with those also.
If it works for you then stick with it. Hodgdon extreme powders tend to be rather temperature insensitive and thus alot of people like them (including me). However I have also used Alliant and IMR powders and had very good luck with those also.
Re: IMR vs Hodgdon
Might take a look at the new IMR 8208 xbr powder, burns about like 4895, and is reported to be insensitive to temp to 160F. Well taks what they claim, I just started shooting it meters as smooth as ball powder no bridging. Ran OCW on my AI 24" 45.3 gr 2.8 Oal .010 jump over 2950 Fps 155L bullet Lapua case. In my DTA SRS 22" 2885fps no pressure sign. I will bring the DTA load up a bit to see what velocity node I find. This might be my new powder for mid weight bullets 155-180 still working on it.
Might take a look at the new IMR 8208 xbr powder, burns about like 4895, and is reported to be insensitive to temp to 160F. Well taks what they claim, I just started shooting it meters as smooth as ball powder no bridging. Ran OCW on my AI 24" 45.3 gr 2.8 Oal .010 jump over 2950 Fps 155L bullet Lapua case. In my DTA SRS 22" 2885fps no pressure sign. I will bring the DTA load up a bit to see what velocity node I find. This might be my new powder for mid weight bullets 155-180 still working on it.
Re: IMR vs Hodgdon
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Longshot38</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it works for you then stick with it. Hodgdon extreme powders tend to be rather temperature insensitive and thus alot of people like them (including me). However I have also used Alliant and IMR powders and had very good luck with those also. </div></div>
+1...I can't agree more. While the IMR-4895 was initially designed for the 308 and for many years was the primary powder the US military used in the 7.62 X 51 NATO round, I have and use several different powders for specific applications. But the IMR 4895 is still the powder I use most.
Here again, use the powder that works best in your rifle / bullet combination.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Longshot38</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it works for you then stick with it. Hodgdon extreme powders tend to be rather temperature insensitive and thus alot of people like them (including me). However I have also used Alliant and IMR powders and had very good luck with those also. </div></div>
+1...I can't agree more. While the IMR-4895 was initially designed for the 308 and for many years was the primary powder the US military used in the 7.62 X 51 NATO round, I have and use several different powders for specific applications. But the IMR 4895 is still the powder I use most.
Here again, use the powder that works best in your rifle / bullet combination.
Re: IMR vs Hodgdon
Use what works for you but the Varget is less temp sensative
Bill
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Longshot38</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it works for you then stick with it. Hodgdon extreme powders tend to be rather temperature insensitive and thus alot of people like them (including me). However I have also used Alliant and IMR powders and had very good luck with those also. </div></div>
Use what works for you but the Varget is less temp sensative
Bill
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Longshot38</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it works for you then stick with it. Hodgdon extreme powders tend to be rather temperature insensitive and thus alot of people like them (including me). However I have also used Alliant and IMR powders and had very good luck with those also. </div></div>
Re: IMR vs Hodgdon
If it is not broke, don't fix it. I like to use Alliant powders for all my pistol loads. It is a few dollars less per pound and usually in stock where hodgdon stuff is more expensive and hit or miss on availability.
If it is not broke, don't fix it. I like to use Alliant powders for all my pistol loads. It is a few dollars less per pound and usually in stock where hodgdon stuff is more expensive and hit or miss on availability.
Re: IMR vs Hodgdon
1/2 inch load and your asking for what? Stay with your load and shoot.
Good Luck
Jerry
1/2 inch load and your asking for what? Stay with your load and shoot.
Good Luck
Jerry
Re: IMR vs Hodgdon
How so? I have shot both H4985 and IMR4895 in a .308 from 30 degrees to 90+ degrees and not had a problem. What am I missing?
Jerry
How so? I have shot both H4985 and IMR4895 in a .308 from 30 degrees to 90+ degrees and not had a problem. What am I missing?
Jerry
Re: IMR vs Hodgdon
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jerry M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1/2 inch load and your asking for what? Stay with your load and shoot.
Good Luck
Jerry </div></div>
Thats what I'm saying, I showed my loads to some people and they said "Thats a really nice load you built, but maybe you should try varget"
This is my very first load I have build.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jerry M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1/2 inch load and your asking for what? Stay with your load and shoot.
Good Luck
Jerry </div></div>
Thats what I'm saying, I showed my loads to some people and they said "Thats a really nice load you built, but maybe you should try varget"
This is my very first load I have build.
Re: IMR vs Hodgdon
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shooting4life</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it is not broke, don't fix it. I like to use Alliant powders for all my pistol loads. It is a few dollars less per pound and usually in stock where hodgdon stuff is more expensive and hit or miss on availability. </div></div>
For most of my handgun loads I use HP-38, have 8 pounds so I gotta use it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shooting4life</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If it is not broke, don't fix it. I like to use Alliant powders for all my pistol loads. It is a few dollars less per pound and usually in stock where hodgdon stuff is more expensive and hit or miss on availability. </div></div>
For most of my handgun loads I use HP-38, have 8 pounds so I gotta use it.
Re: IMR vs Hodgdon
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jerry M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How so? I have shot both H4985 and IMR4895 in a .308 from 30 degrees to 90+ degrees and not had a problem. What am I missing?
Jerry </div></div>
JerryM; Just saw your reply. I'm not saying anything but be careful w/ max loads in the heat until you have done the proper load work which apparantly you have done with your load. I'll be doing exactly that with a new batch of H-4350 and IMR 4350 to see for myself what the difference is. Good luck at the spring match
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jerry M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How so? I have shot both H4985 and IMR4895 in a .308 from 30 degrees to 90+ degrees and not had a problem. What am I missing?
Jerry </div></div>
JerryM; Just saw your reply. I'm not saying anything but be careful w/ max loads in the heat until you have done the proper load work which apparantly you have done with your load. I'll be doing exactly that with a new batch of H-4350 and IMR 4350 to see for myself what the difference is. Good luck at the spring match
Re: IMR vs Hodgdon
Hodgdon began business by buying several barrels of Pulldown/Surplus IMR-4895. Since then, many of their propellants have been purchased in bulk from foreign manufacturers, which is a common practice among domestic propellant wholesalers.
Subsequently, Hodgdon has acquired the IMR product line (within the past few years).
Sources change, quality control drifts, and wholesalers say very little on the matter. I would caution strongly against assuming H-4895 and IMR-4895 are the same in any significant way.
Greg
Hodgdon began business by buying several barrels of Pulldown/Surplus IMR-4895. Since then, many of their propellants have been purchased in bulk from foreign manufacturers, which is a common practice among domestic propellant wholesalers.
Subsequently, Hodgdon has acquired the IMR product line (within the past few years).
Sources change, quality control drifts, and wholesalers say very little on the matter. I would caution strongly against assuming H-4895 and IMR-4895 are the same in any significant way.
Greg
