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Gunsmithing Installing M5/pillars in a Manners T4 ??

sobrbiker883

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I've got a Manners T4 coming that I need to install pillars for a Badger M5 in.

I've seen the posts with bedding the pillars at the same time as the acion, and I've read Hateca's DIY that says to install pillars, then skim bed stock. What is the consensus on ease of installation, with the action or prior to?

Also are the Badger pillars as they come the right height for spacing the M5? I also saw on Manners' site "Install Badger 9/16" pillars--- ( <span style="color: #3366FF">cut to length </span>/ marine-tex into stock--"-is this just for installing pillars for factory or other than M5 bottom metal?

I'm inclined to bed the pillars into the stock using the bottom metal as a height reference and then making the cation rest on the pillars when I bed action (wouldn't that be the way to go if the Badger pillars are the right length for their magazine setup??).

I searched already, and even with the Google engine, couldn't find info specific to the M5 and T4......
 
Re: Installing M5/pillars in a Manners T4 ??

The M5 pillars are cut to the length that they need to be. You can play with thins just a little but not much. Wait until you have all the parts to do a dry fit. I have seen stocks that the bottom metal inlet was not deep enough or was too deep. Once you have all the parts and can check them you should be GTG.

If you don't get the clearance right between the action and the bottom metal you will have feeding issues.

How you bed is up to you, some will do pillars first some will do the pillars with the action. I've done it both ways and doing the pillars first is seems to be easier for guys that don't do a lot of bedding.
 
Re: Installing M5/pillars in a Manners T4 ??

Thanks Randy.
Once the stock gets here I'll do a dry fit as you suggest.
I'm hoping that the bottom inlet is nice and flush and the pillars wind up a hair proud in the action area, that way I can bed the pillars to the stock using the bottom metal as a reference, then bed the action to sit on the pillars (two step).
I'm fully comfortable with bedding, just haven't done pillars and BM where the clearance between action and BM is critical.

The pillars Terry sent me with the BM are 1.068" and 0.718", does that sound right?