Iran Deal (Fiasco) Done

[ArmyJerry]

Let the hair on fire melt downs start.

I cant believe what the swamp is saying hhahahahhah, they are in disbelief, "Trump cant do that" hahahhahha. Shep bitch is saying that there is no way to pull out of a deal hahhahhahhahhahahhah. What a douche
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...om-iran-nuclear-agreement-ap-sources-say.html

 

[pmclaine]

This will bring the swamp creatures into the light.

 

[Redmanss]

Pelosi during the announcement. Swamp creature indeed.

 

[Fig]

Pull out? It was never a real treaty or international agreement in the first place. Read the Constitution! The Senate must ratify treaties. Obama can’t unilaterally make them, so it was all bullshit from the beginning.

Make Obama pay back all the money he gave our worst enemies! Treason.

 

[ArmyJerry]

keep in mind and don forget, the republicans held the house and senate and let hi give away that money, didn't say a goddamn thing,, because they were in on it with Obama. The swamp is a Bipartisan threat, they all hate trump equally. This makes them hate him even more if that is possible.

 

[pmclaine]

Pull out? It was never a real treaty or international agreement in the first place. Read the Constitution! The Senate must ratify treaties. Obama can’t unilaterally make them, so it was all bullshit from the beginning.

Make Obama pay back all the money he gave our worst enemies! Treason.

Obama can apparently do anything and everything.

Up until the administration of Obama Presidential orders were temporary and typically repealed at teh start of the following administration. Now they carry more weight than the Bill of Rights.

You listen the swamp is just coming to the plate. Trump will have to fight to actually end this thing.

Im sure the 9th Circuit is already representing Iran with a stay of the order and forced compliance with this bullshit.

 

[Fig]

I would love to say that is insane...because it is. But, it's also probably true. I'm sure there are some lawfare lawyers working on it right now.

 

[Dewey7271]

I'm glad he did it.
Another campaign promise kept. Some of the crap he does pisses me off (the omnibus deal...but today there's a thing about rescinding part of the money so maybe I'm not as pissed about that) but I have to respect a president that keeps promises.

And Obama called it a "serious mistake" which means I'm all for it.

 

[pmclaine]

I love how Obama stated that our allies can not trust us.

He fucked our allies at every opportunity.

 

[Redmanss]

Obama was there at the inauguration. What part of "America First" didn't he understand? It was even in all the papers.

 

[...]

Trump meeting with Lil' Kim to negotiate a deal with N.korea....

Trump taking measures to ensure Iran cannot build a Nuclear weapon....

huh.....and here i thought trump was going to start a nuclear war.......looks like hes busy putting the fires out to me.....

liberals heads must be exploding

 

[pmclaine]

Trump meeting with Lil' Kim to negotiate a deal with N.korea....

Trump taking measures to ensure Iran cannot build a Nuclear weapon....

huh.....and here i thought trump was going to start a nuclear war.......looks like hes busy putting the fires out to me.....

liberals heads must be exploding

Wait until he wins a Nobel for something that isnt arbitrary.

The Nobel Commitee has itself in a pickle.

There is serious scheming going on to make sure he fails and it will not be to the benefit of our country.

 

[Threadcutter308]

I love how Obama stated that our allies can not trust us.

He fucked our allies at every opportunity.

Yep......just ask Israel who they trust more.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and WWIII will kick off and the opening act can be finally making the middle east silent and peaceful after thousands of years of being the favourite war starting spot on earth. All we really care about is the oil and that's too far down to be bothered by making the desert into a nice silent smooth glass lake.

I'm fairly sure if we wake up and the entire middle east from the west shores of north Africa to the east border of Pakistan was no longer populated, the rest of the world would get along just fine.

I'm sure Israel would be rather happy to wind up surrounded by empty rather than people that want to kill them.

 

[MtnCreek]

I was on board till Israel somehow got excluded from the Middle East.

 

[W54/XM-388]

I was on board till Israel somehow got excluded from the Middle East.

Well final list hasn't been decided... you know accidents happen...

 

[Nik H]

Listening to the "EXPERTS" on the BBC stating that Trump is jeopardizing world peace. Stating that it will undermine North Korean talks. Listened to Jug Ears and his sidekick Biden say the same.

Hmmmmm

"Jeopardizing world peace"? What peace did they negotiate?

Then the Iran spokesman got up there and said they will buy their time, develop peaceful nuclear energy and come back to the table and get a better deal....LMAO. Translation, the Iranians will be back to the table before Trump meets with little Kim

 

[ArmyJerry]

there is no deal to be had, no nukes or we nuke them. europe should be kissing trumps ass, they are within range already.

 

[whatsupdoc]

Most likely all of these assholes have made underhanded deals with Iran and Trump just pissed in their corn flakes.

All you have to do is look for all the ones that are now gagging.

 

[Nik H]

there is no deal to be had, no nukes or we nuke them. europe should be kissing trumps ass, they are within range already.

I agree about the Europeans...but they won't and we know why. An undiplomatic, aggressive outsider has trumped all of the "gentlemen" and "diplomats". A freaking riot.

I think some deal will be reached. Your no nukes or get nuked position is one I would like to see driven but it won't, even by Trump.

 

[Fig]

Iran’s economy is the size of Maryland’s even with their meager oil extraction. They’re an economic basket case. Sanctions really hurt them when Europe was their only trading partner. They don’t trade with most of the Arab World (they hate them for being Shiite and Persian). I’m sure China will still trade with them, so Trump has to make them choose. Trade with the Mulahas and we’ll cut you off.

 

[ArmyJerry]

I think it might. Mattis needs to send in the Special Forces to start eliminating all Iranian formations in the Levant proper, we owe them at least 5k KIA x10 and another 200K WIA x 10. Do them like that Russian "probing" force., just keep the pressure on until the reset is pushed and then move over to eliminating them in the Arabian peninsula. SF op only, small ground footprint and a very deep air footprint.

No permission should be asked and no "allies" need be involved.

 

[MtnCreek]

Everything was given away on the front end. Europe wanted to feed their economy with sales to Iran; that’s happened and still happening and also funds whatever Iran wants to spend it on in addition to our reimbursement of their pay,ent for US jets from Seventy whatever,,, plus interest. If pressure is to be put back n them, US banking has to cut the nuts on Europe, other transactions with Iran. That’s a hell of a lot tougher now that the market has been opened. US only, not much deals going on with them. If fully enforced, may get somewhere, otherwise not much difference.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Just a FYI, Europe investment is only $30 bil, that is not the problem, its even worse, up to 20% of their populations, who also have a vote, support the Iran revolution which they see as the take over of christian Europe. Its not money they are worried about its votes from the Muslim population of Europe that they are worried about. Europe is dying and the pace is quickening.

 

[Nik H]

I know this will sound kind of whacked but I don't think Trump gives a rat's ass about Iran. This is a lever he can use to strong-arm other countries to play ball. The real advantage of him doing this is to threaten sanctions on any country doing business with Iran and do it under the guise of of preventing Iran from becoming a nuclear state.

He can really stand to gain some economic advantage through this approach.

I think it is pretty brilliant...

 

[MtnCreek]

I hope you’re right.

 

[Threadcutter308]

I know this will sound kind of whacked but I don't think Trump gives a rat's ass about Iran. This is a lever he can use to strong-arm other countries to play ball. The real advantage of him doing this is to threaten sanctions on any country doing business with Iran and do it under the guise of of preventing Iran from becoming a nuclear state.

He can really stand to gain some economic advantage through this approach.

I think it is pretty brilliant...

I think you are spot on. The territory up the west side of the Caspian Sea toward (and including) Baku is quite "rich in natural resources".......

 

[pmclaine]

Most likely all of these assholes have made underhanded deals with Iran and Trump just pissed in their corn flakes.

All you have to do is look for all the ones that are now gagging.

Yes Trump should just publish the deal in full.

Remember there were parts of it Congress creatures were not even permitted to read before voting on it.

I thinks its time we all read what is being done in our names.

 

[Mr.BR]

Back in a day 2002 a similar but much worse deal that actualy cost US billions in $$ (Iran deal doesnt cost US a penny )with the Norks was bemoaned by more or less same crowd that axed it (things more or less boil down to partisan politics that seems to revolve around breaking things other party made), , with US reneging the deal norks restarted nuclear program ,4y later Norks had a nuke ,now they have nukes and ICBMs that can reach DC so axing the deal turned out to be not so smart.

In this case you are more or less being puled back into ME (note every time Trump anounced pull out of Syria some shit got staged) for Sauds (the original jihadis of 9/11 , AQ and ISIS ,financiers of +95% of worlds terror groups ) and Israel that would like US to deal with Iran ,because they can't/won't themselves ,incompetent Sauds are having ther asses whopped by the bare footed Huthis (https://rare.us/rare-politics/issue...-latest-intervention-in-yemen-makes-no-sense/) in Yemen where best the can do is bomb wedding parties and starve population (now with US boots on the ground to better starve the Yemenis) , while Israel is busy running open air prisons of Gaza and West Bank , so these things are best paid with US blood and treasure ....... that worked so well so far.

Much the same crew of pundits sent thousands of US servicemen and contractors to die into Iraq (on bogus WMDs and fabricated AQ links) that was till then a great bulwark against Iran, Now more or less Irans satelite. But yes 'freedom fries' all the way. winning so much it hurts

 

[Fig]

Total bullshit. You are completely misinformed, and should henceforth stop getting your news from MSNBC, NYT, and The Nation. Either that or you're younger than 25 and didn't live through the absurd cat and mouse with the IAEA in North Korea, which was a farce that would be funny if it wasn't nuclearfuckingwar we're talking about.

I was in Former Yugoslavia and I consider it one of Bush Sr.'s major foreign policy mistakes to not intervene BEFORE the major genocides took place. I hate Bill Clinton like Satan, but I fully supported this decision because it was the right one. If a Republican had done it fucktards like you would still be squawking about killin' Serbs and pissing Russia off. You're twisted world view only works one way, and you buy the most superficial narrative, which is 99.999% wrong most of the time. Often we make moves so that a terrible history isn't written.

The Norks never stopped their program or honored Albright's ridiculous "treaty" one bit. It was totally one sided, and while we didn’t send money Clinton actually gave them “peaceful” nuclear technology. The reason they got the bomb so fast was BECAUSE Clinton and Albright GAVE them nuclear technology!!!! It was almost a worse clusterfuck than Obama sending billions in Swiss Franks to an Islamic terror state actively funding the groups killing our soldiers. In a world without people like you reasonable people would call that treason, and hang the perpetrator by the neck until dead.

Weeeeeeee! Being Secretary is F-U-N! Kim is such a gentleman!

Dancing along as the children sing the Nork classic "Yankee Die in a Lake of Fire"

In this case you are more or less being puled back into ME (note every time Trump anounced pull out of Syria some shit got staged) for Sauds (the original jihadis of 9/11 , AQ and ISIS ,financiers of +95% of worlds terror groups ) and Israel that would like US to deal with Iran ,because they can't/won't themselves ,incompetent Sauds are having ther asses whopped by the bare footed Huthis (https://rare.us/rare-politics/issue...-latest-intervention-in-yemen-makes-no-sense/) in Yemen where best the can do is bomb wedding parties and starve population (now with US boots on the ground to better starve the Yemenis) , while Israel is busy running open air prisons of Gaza and West Bank , so these things are best paid with US blood and treasure ....... that worked so well so far.

Yes, Iran is funding all those conflicts and all that terrorism. They are the largest finding source of terrorism in world history. Obama gave them billions, and they spent it on terrorism almost immediately. You are totally clueless. Iran has made government funded movies explaining the Islamic Revolutionary State, and their goals. Just because the Mahdi sounds crazy, and actively seeking chaos and war isn't what sane governments do does not mean that those aren't the stated goals of a state run by religious fanatics who want to bring on the apocalypse so their Muslim Jesus can reappear and make it a Sharia world.

Israel is THE ONLY Democratic Republic in the Middle East, and our only actual ally because of it. The only Jailers the A-rabs, who call themselves inhabitants of a ROMAN Province, have are Hezbollah and Hamas. Israel just keeps them the fuck out of Israel, and occasionally slaps them when they try to attack.

Why are you even here? Shouldn't you be out protesting with your Every Town buddies?

Nice link! Seriously? You are in your early 20s, aren't you. Tell Rachel Maddow hi for me.

 

[pmclaine]

and our N Korean hostages are coming home......

 

[supercorndogs]

Back in a day 2002 a similar but much worse deal that actualy cost US billions in $$ (Iran deal doesnt cost US a penny )with the Norks was bemoaned by more or less same crowd that axed it (things more or less boil down to partisan politics that seems to revolve around breaking things other party made), , with US reneging the deal norks restarted nuclear program ,4y later Norks had a nuke ,now they have nukes and ICBMs that can reach DC so axing the deal turned out to be not so smart.View attachment 6902261[/QUOT
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How is it that taking Iran 1.7 billion for the illegal "Iran deal" did not cost the U.S any money? Are you really stupid enough to believe what you wrote, or are you another shitty shill?

 

[MtnCreek]

I'm pretty sure BR is Russian or from some other Eastern European country. I'd say Iran comes in second on funding terrorism; it's hard to compete with the money we throw around.

 

[Fig]

He is trying to say that the Clinton era deal with Kim the dad did not include massive pallets of Swiss Franks, which is true. No, we just gave them USAID food aid to relieve their famine and prevent a possible revolt, relaxed sanctions that were squeezing their upper class, and transferred nuclear technology to them. Then the "inspection regime" was turned over to the UN, and it was so booger-eating ridiculous that they were not allowed inside any of Kim's nuclear facilities. It would be on the nightly news all these white UN vehicles lined up at the gates of his facilities and the guards just telling them, "No, you can't come in." How long did that go on for? Years? Is it really a wonder they got the bomb almost immediately when Bush finally threw this bullshit out? What planet do you live on?

He is trying to say that was a better deal than the Iran deal, and also should not have been abrogated, but was simply because a Democrat President did it. I have a feeling he did not live through it and has no idea what he's talking about other than what dubious MSM sources tell him, which is clearly fake news.

Both Clinton and Obama reversed decades of extremely sound US foreign policy that applied pressure to our worst enemies without resorting to war. Such reckless, radical, and hubristic foreign policy moves tend to cause war, not prevent it. Who is the chickenhawk/warmonger?

Today as yesterday and stretching beck through the annals of history it is not the peace through strength foreign policy crowd that causes war and destruction. It is the weak and feckless who project their own wants and desires onto the enemy, instead of listening to what THEY SAY, who cause war and create misery. We should forgive them because they mean well? Fuck that!

 

[Nik H]

We need a couple of things

1. A modern day Curtis LeMay who understands how to effectively use airpower to obliterate the will and resources of an enemy
2. A president to act upon those suggestions

There wouldn't be any further issue in the Mid-East

 

[ArmyJerry]

We need a couple of things

1. A modern day Curtis LeMay who understands how to effectively use airpower to obliterate the will and resources of an enemy

Okay okay, I will accept the job.

1. A president to act upon those suggestions

ONly needs to act is I ask permission.

There wouldn't be any further issue in the Mid-East[/QUOTE]

 

[FS1]

Iran's sabre is rattling not in defiance, but rather from trembling in fear.

Go Trump. The Message; the USA will no longer bend over and allow you to eff our asshole.

 

[pmclaine]

How is it that taking Iran 1.7 billion for the illegal "Iran deal" did not cost the U.S any money? Are you really stupid enough to believe what you wrote, or are you another shitty shill?

The 1.7 B was supposedly money Iran had paid during the Shah era for F4 planes/spares possibly later gen fighters that we ended the deal and kept the money when the new regime came into power.

So to the poster it was their money.

Well as long as we are playing "let by gones be bygones" where is the equal payment for our Embassy and pain/suffering for 444 days of captivity?

The deal was a one sided reparations made by a group that hates America to a group that hates America.

 

[pmclaine]

I'm pretty sure BR is Russian or from some other Eastern European country. I'd say Iran comes in second on funding terrorism; it's hard to compete with the money we throw around.

Dont shit on the E European countries.

They know socialism and they more than most want Trump to succeed.

Without a pot to piss in they have been unrecognized by joining us in Afghanistan and I think Iraq.

 

[MtnCreek]

Dont shit on the E European countries.

They know socialism and they more than most want Trump to succeed.

Without a pot to piss in they have been unrecognized by joining us in Afghanistan and I think Iraq.

Not shitting on them. Based on reading BR's posts, I believe he is a non-native english speaker, most likely from eastern europe. The reason I pointed that out is because someone was using Dem vs Rep arguments that probably don't make a bit of difference to BR.

 

[Yasherka]

Wait until he wins a Nobel for something that isnt arbitrary.

The Nobel Commitee has itself in a pickle.

He would never get it, but it's a whored out booby prize anyway. In all honesty though, I'd love it if they awarded it to him and he said "Nah, I'm going to get a McD's cheeseburger instead"

 

[Fig]

He would never get it, but it's a whored out booby prize anyway. In all honesty though, I'd love it if they awarded it to him and he said "Nah, I'm going to get a McD's cheeseburger instead"

Absolutely! I would reject it rather than throw in with the likes of:

Winner for keeping North Korea and Iran from getting nuclear weapons...!?!?! WTF!?!?!

"For his decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote economic and social development." Before Obama weakest/worst US President in modern history (real reason they both were given it).

But this...this was the end of the Nobel having any meaning at all. One of the worst terrorists of the 20th century given the "Peace Prize" for:
"His their efforts to create peace in the Middle East"

Stick a fork in them, they're done.

 

[Mike_Honcho]

For those that have been following along this is old news, but for those that get their news from the MSM - NK and Iran are run by puppets who do whatever their (foreign to them) Nation State Intelligence Service / corrupt political masters tell them to do; and have been doing so for decades.

The reason why heads of the EU are wringing their hands is b/c they are part of the those that pull the strings - they are part of the crime ring that runs the world.

5 Eyes (the intelligence sharing between US/Aus/NZ/GB/CAN) is integral to it all.

This is why we are being led to believe that we will have Nuremberg style tribunals - it is an international crime ring.

We have been encouraged to understand that a awful lot of Iranians are not happy with the mullahs, and that the control of the mullahs probably isn't a strong as MSM would lead us to believe.

The pieces are coming together pretty quickly in the last few weeks. Once the IG report comes out, it is going to move a lot faster.

Stay tuned. Shit's gonna get spicy.

 

[Mike_Honcho]

Back in a day 2002 a similar but much worse deal that actualy cost US billions in $$ (Iran deal doesnt cost US a penny )with the Norks was bemoaned by more or less same crowd that axed it (things more or less boil down to partisan politics that seems to revolve around breaking things other party made), , with US reneging the deal norks restarted nuclear program ,4y later Norks had a nuke ,now they have nukes and ICBMs that can reach DC so axing the deal turned out to be not so smart.

In this case you are more or less being puled back into ME (note every time Trump anounced pull out of Syria some shit got staged) for Sauds (the original jihadis of 9/11 , AQ and ISIS ,financiers of +95% of worlds terror groups ) and Israel that would like US to deal with Iran ,because they can't/won't themselves ,incompetent Sauds are having ther asses whopped by the bare footed Huthis (https://rare.us/rare-politics/issue...-latest-intervention-in-yemen-makes-no-sense/) in Yemen where best the can do is bomb wedding parties and starve population (now with US boots on the ground to better starve the Yemenis) , while Israel is busy running open air prisons of Gaza and West Bank , so these things are best paid with US blood and treasure ....... that worked so well so far.

Much the same crew of pundits sent thousands of US servicemen and contractors to die into Iraq (on bogus WMDs and fabricated AQ links) that was till then a great bulwark against Iran, Now more or less Irans satelite. But yes 'freedom fries' all the way. winning so much it hurts

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There is an element of truth in what you say. However look at this list and ask why did they throw in the towel? Why now?

Review Time.
Not seeking re-election.
[Senate]
Bob Corker - Republican
Jeff Flake - Republican
Orrin Hatch - Republican
No Name - Republican [Departure Soon]
[House]
Bill Shuster - Republican
Bob Goodlatte - Republican
Carol Shea-Porter - Democrat
Charles W. Dent - Republican
Darrell Issa - Republican
Dave Reichert - Republican
David Trott - Republican
Dennis Ross - Republican
Edward Royce - Republican
Elizabeth Esty - Democrat
Frank LoBiondo - Republican
Gene Green - Democrat
Gregg Harper - Republican
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen - Republican
Jeb Hensarling - Republican
Jim Bridenstine - Republican
Joe Barton - Republican
John Delaney - Democrat
John J. Duncan, Jr. - Republican
Lamar Smith - Republican
Luis V. Gutierrez - Democrat
Lynn Jenkins - Republican
Niki Tsongas - Democrat
Paul Ryan - Republican
Rick Nolan - Democrat
Robert Brady - Democrat
Rodney Frelinghuysen - Republican
Ruben J. Kihuen - Democrat
Ryan Costello - Republican
Sam Johnson - Republican
Sandy Levin - Democrat
Ted Poe - Republican
Thomas Rooney - Republican
Trey Gowdy - Republican
[Resigned]
Al Franken - Democratic U.S. Senate
Blake Farenthold - Republican U.S. House
Jason Chaffetz - Republican U.S. House
John Conyers, Jr. - Democrat U.S. House
Louise Slaughter - Democrat U.S. House
Patrick Meehan - RepublicanU.S. House
Patrick J. Tiberi - Republican U.S. House
Thad Cochran - Republican U.S. Senate
Tim Murphy - Republican U.S. House
Trent Franks - Republican U.S. House
Xavier Becerra - Democrat Attorney General of California
+ DOJ
+ FBI
+ CEOs
Conspiracy?
Nothing happening?
Goodlatte & Gowdy [important].
Chairman of the House Committee on the Judiciary.
Chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.
Why is the NY AG resignation important?
What past/current 'high profile' FBI investigations are within the jurisdiction of NY?
Define roadblock.
You have more than you know.
Do not fall victim to MSM/other fake/false narrative pushes.
STAY THE COURSE.
WWG1WGA.
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[Mike_Honcho]

Here is a succinct bite sized video that brings you all up to speed on merely one facet of the crime syndication that is going on throughout the world. In large measure, such criminality is ultimately orchestrated under the flag of the United States of America. It is purposely perpetrated by some mid level persons within the criminal enterprise with whom we are all familiar with already, as many of the very same names are currently investigating the POTUS.

You're watching a slow motion coup, brought to you every day by 5 mega corporations in an effort to shape opinions and hide the truth. Along the way and per reauthorization of the Patriot Act, Smith Mundt was repealed, so now it is legal for the Gov to lie to you through the media.

This is the simplified version of just one thing - Hillary's Uranium One deal and the connection to Iran.

Keep in mind the entire time this deal with Iran was being negotiated, key figures in Government - inclusive of Sen Kerry / Sec State Clinton / Obama / FBI / DOJ were using g-mail accounts to communicate privately and in violation of the law.

Short version - 2013 a scheme called Megatons to Megawatts is hatched and negotiated via Dept of State under HRC to bring HEU (highly enriched uranium) to the US from Russia. The HEU was to be mixed, and down graded. This downgraded uranium would then be used to power the US. Problem is - HEU is worth more than gold per weight. The HEU from MTMW was sold off by the HRC crime syndicate. U1 - was the sale of 20% of US uranium mineral stockpiles to Russia / Iran (is?) was using those stock piles and spinning HEU to backfill for MTMW that was now stolen.

*North Korea received, missile tech / nuke material

All been going on since early 1990's by the same cast of characters.

This level of manipulation and related cast of characters, can easily be traced at least back to the 1950's.

6 minutes.

 

[Mr.BR]

There is an element of truth in what you say. However look at this list and ask why did they throw in the towel? Why now?
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When was the last time you got congress to get anyting done , every piece of legislation that goes trough getts stuffed with pork from all sides .
No way you would get a done deal agreed on by congress a deal that was already agreed ,so un changable if you want. you cna always count on McCain and his fagot friend Lindsay to stir the shit up.

Do you think any deal Trump makes with the Norks would pass? I have my doubts even tough Republcans still hold power. No chance ever if Dems ever take it.

In Trump had the right idea and oprutunity to pull out of ME for good and it seems he tried when he anounced to pull out of Syria before he was pulled back by a staged show , since US is self sufficient with oil there is no US interest in the ME anymore. No interests and presence would also mean no ME wars to get involved in , let Sauds and Israel fight their own battles.Would save you hundrets of bilions and thousands of lives. In the end Sauds & Israel would not even pick the fights they can't win.

As for terrorism so far its almost exclusive to Sunni Wahabis with much of the finacing out of Gulf monarchies. Attacks in US and Europe all sunnis .
Throwing ISIS and Taliban into Irans pot is a blatant lie but consistant with Saudi line.

Muslim world in the ME probably needs to fight a reallly bloody war , but among themselves , we should stay out of it.

As someone who visited much of ME including Iran , my opinion of people in the region is not realy high but what is quite clear presence of western armed forces fuels the shit there more than you know. Mullahs in Iran might be crazy but realy nothing out of ME norms even so, their fucked up political system is a democracy in comparison to Gulf Arab Monarchies/dictatorships that are basicaly family owned countries . run on petro dolar ,pakistani slave labour and western mid level managment while worthless citizen Ahmed picks his nose on goverment salary. Arab despots have every right to be afraid of Iran , Iranian GI Ahmed in is worth at least 3 Arab GI Ahmeds ,not because Iranian ahmed is any good but becuse arab ahmed is total bum

 

[Mike_Honcho]

Yep.....lots of problems out there.

Have a little faith and little patience. Reflect on what has been accomplished in such a short space of time. Consider that all those that went before that are now bad mouthing him, are doing so b/c they are defending the charade that was their tenure. Consider that Trump too is merely actor of sorts. Consider that those closest to the problem, for the longest period, who knew where all the bodies where buried, drew up the plan. Then went looking for a star.....

Justice is coming.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Justice is coming, it will start with them over playing their hand, they are afraid now, very afraid. they have no choice but to over play their hand in the attempt to undo the last election. That is when they will be illuminated and extinguished.

 

[Nik H]

Justice is coming, it will start with them over playing their hand, they are afraid now, very afraid. they have no choice but to over play their hand in the attempt to undo the last election. That is when they will be illuminated and extinguished.

Cornered animals that are terrified have a habit of irrational behavior. They feel death and will attack with reckless abandon to try to get out of the situation. To some extent, this could have horrific consequences.

 

[P-Squared]

Wait until he wins a Nobel for something that isnt arbitrary.

The Nobel Commitee has itself in a pickle.

There is serious scheming going on to make sure he fails and it will not be to the benefit of our country.

If I were Trump, and the committee voted to give me a nobel (lowercase) prize I'd tell them how meaningless the medal was after they gave it to obama for doing nothing and hoping he would do something great in the future. Or, maybe have his dog there and say how cute it looks on his collar.