Is Sako Trg 42 in 338 lm Gtg?
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Pros ....very accurate and not too pricey for a 338 lm ,best factory trigger,comfortable stock,...cons.....expensive magazines and accessories,I hear there was some trg42 338 lm that were copper fouling pretty bad ,but I'm sure Sako fixed that problem.
If your going to buy a new trg contact Alex at eurooptic.com.
Pros ....very accurate and not too pricey for a 338 lm ,best factory trigger,comfortable stock,...cons.....expensive magazines and accessories,I hear there was some trg42 338 lm that were copper fouling pretty bad ,but I'm sure Sako fixed that problem.
If your going to buy a new trg contact Alex at eurooptic.com.
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Are the new .338LM TRG-42's 1-12" or 1-10?
I would concider them being 1-12" a con.
Are the new .338LM TRG-42's 1-12" or 1-10?
I would concider them being 1-12" a con.
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I bought mine about a year ago and it is a 1-10".
+1 on the cost of accessories, but I wouldn't shoot it without the Sako muzzle brake.
The rifle is amazingly accurate out of the box and has the best factory trigger I have tried bar none. Also I love the ergonomics of the stock. One real downside though, is the cheek spacer system: I have a 10mm spacer on mine, and it requires me to to carry a hex wrench whenever I shoot in case I need to remove the bolt.
If you don't have the cash for an AI but still want a .338, you will not be disappointed with the Sako
I bought mine about a year ago and it is a 1-10".
+1 on the cost of accessories, but I wouldn't shoot it without the Sako muzzle brake.
The rifle is amazingly accurate out of the box and has the best factory trigger I have tried bar none. Also I love the ergonomics of the stock. One real downside though, is the cheek spacer system: I have a 10mm spacer on mine, and it requires me to to carry a hex wrench whenever I shoot in case I need to remove the bolt.
If you don't have the cash for an AI but still want a .338, you will not be disappointed with the Sako
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Price of accessories is the only con I can see with the Sako TRG rifles. All of the current production ones are 1 in 10" twist. The TRG-41 was 1 in 12" and some of the earlier 42s were. Not sure when they changed it but any new production are 1 in 10".
Price of accessories is the only con I can see with the Sako TRG rifles. All of the current production ones are 1 in 10" twist. The TRG-41 was 1 in 12" and some of the earlier 42s were. Not sure when they changed it but any new production are 1 in 10".
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Here is a link to Zak's review of the TRG http://demigodllc.com/articles/military-338-lapua-rifles-trg42-awsm/ Little dated re barrel twist.
Here is a link to Zak's review of the TRG http://demigodllc.com/articles/military-338-lapua-rifles-trg42-awsm/ Little dated re barrel twist.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Josh Denny</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Price of accessories is the only con I can see with the Sako TRG rifles. All of the current production ones are 1 in 10" twist. The TRG-41 was 1 in 12" and some of the earlier 42s were. Not sure when they changed it but any new production are 1 in 10". </div></div>
Just guessing, but I suppose the high costs are due to low volume production, its relative scarcity and good reputation, and the current godawful exchange rate.
I could be wrong, but after lurking here for over a year before my first post, it seems there are about three times (or more) as many AI .338 users than TRG.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Josh Denny</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Price of accessories is the only con I can see with the Sako TRG rifles. All of the current production ones are 1 in 10" twist. The TRG-41 was 1 in 12" and some of the earlier 42s were. Not sure when they changed it but any new production are 1 in 10". </div></div>
Just guessing, but I suppose the high costs are due to low volume production, its relative scarcity and good reputation, and the current godawful exchange rate.
I could be wrong, but after lurking here for over a year before my first post, it seems there are about three times (or more) as many AI .338 users than TRG.
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I wanted to be sure before my purchase.
I have what I consider being a good deal on a trg42.
it is a 1/10" twist, has a bipod, pica rail, muzzle break, a rail for night vision scope and a folding stock.
it shot 500 rounds.
I wanted to be sure before my purchase.
I have what I consider being a good deal on a trg42.
it is a 1/10" twist, has a bipod, pica rail, muzzle break, a rail for night vision scope and a folding stock.
it shot 500 rounds.
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The TRGs are fine pieces of equipment. Accessories can be expensive due to reasons mentioned above. However, you do not have to run their stuff exclusively. Bases and rings can be had cheaper as well as muzzle brakes and the like. Mags tend to be an issue, but I am still holding out hope that JBW III and Morta come out with mags for the TRG 22 and 42 once they are done with their current runs.
The 42 rivals the AI in terms of quality and ruggedness for less cost. That leaves you more room for optics and accessories. The big thing that has ben discussed is the user changeable barrels that AI is known for. You can do the exact same thing with a Sako if you have the same tools, as it can be rebarreled without removing the action from the stock. Kinetic Research Group is coming up with some exciting accessories for the TRG series and may offer an AI style barrel wrench in the future.
If you like traditional style stocks, you will love the TRG. I do not exclusively hate thumbhole stocks but I do loath the AI. Terry Cross' Sentinel and Manners T5A are examples of thumbholes that I am comfortable shooting. In fact, the sentinel feels WONDERFUL. I would encourage you to get behind both the AI and the Sako and make your decision from there. They are both military grade weapons platforms and are employed in many corners of the world as we speak. You will not give up anything to the other no matter which you decide upon.
Josh
The TRGs are fine pieces of equipment. Accessories can be expensive due to reasons mentioned above. However, you do not have to run their stuff exclusively. Bases and rings can be had cheaper as well as muzzle brakes and the like. Mags tend to be an issue, but I am still holding out hope that JBW III and Morta come out with mags for the TRG 22 and 42 once they are done with their current runs.
The 42 rivals the AI in terms of quality and ruggedness for less cost. That leaves you more room for optics and accessories. The big thing that has ben discussed is the user changeable barrels that AI is known for. You can do the exact same thing with a Sako if you have the same tools, as it can be rebarreled without removing the action from the stock. Kinetic Research Group is coming up with some exciting accessories for the TRG series and may offer an AI style barrel wrench in the future.
If you like traditional style stocks, you will love the TRG. I do not exclusively hate thumbhole stocks but I do loath the AI. Terry Cross' Sentinel and Manners T5A are examples of thumbholes that I am comfortable shooting. In fact, the sentinel feels WONDERFUL. I would encourage you to get behind both the AI and the Sako and make your decision from there. They are both military grade weapons platforms and are employed in many corners of the world as we speak. You will not give up anything to the other no matter which you decide upon.
Josh
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Concur. My single biggest beef with the TRG is the price of a new magazine: $175 is the cheapest I have found them. Consider AI's can be had for around $100 or less and if you you buy several, it adds up quick.
I don't have any problem with aftermarket parts, I have a Badger base, Seekins rings, Harris bipod (when oh when will Accu-Shot finish their TRG adapter?). But there are no aftermarket mags out there...
Concur. My single biggest beef with the TRG is the price of a new magazine: $175 is the cheapest I have found them. Consider AI's can be had for around $100 or less and if you you buy several, it adds up quick.
I don't have any problem with aftermarket parts, I have a Badger base, Seekins rings, Harris bipod (when oh when will Accu-Shot finish their TRG adapter?). But there are no aftermarket mags out there...
Re: Is Sako Trg 42 in 338 lm Gtg?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yasherka</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Concur. My single biggest beef with the TRG is the price of a new magazine: $175 is the cheapest I have found them. Consider AI's can be had for around $100 or less and if you you buy several, it adds up quick.
I don't have any problem with aftermarket parts, I have a Badger base, Seekins rings, Harris bipod (when oh when will Accu-Shot finish their TRG adapter?). But there are no aftermarket mags out there...
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I find it laughable that people (generally AI owners) are quick to point out that a TRG mag is about $75-$100 more than an AI mag but look right past the fact that the AI is about $2,500 more. That buys a LOT of magazines.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yasherka</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Concur. My single biggest beef with the TRG is the price of a new magazine: $175 is the cheapest I have found them. Consider AI's can be had for around $100 or less and if you you buy several, it adds up quick.
I don't have any problem with aftermarket parts, I have a Badger base, Seekins rings, Harris bipod (when oh when will Accu-Shot finish their TRG adapter?). But there are no aftermarket mags out there...
I find it laughable that people (generally AI owners) are quick to point out that a TRG mag is about $75-$100 more than an AI mag but look right past the fact that the AI is about $2,500 more. That buys a LOT of magazines.
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TRG's Are an awesome bang for the buck imo. They shoot great. Great barrels, trigger, and the actions are really smooth.
TRG's Are an awesome bang for the buck imo. They shoot great. Great barrels, trigger, and the actions are really smooth.
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Hit up Raydog here on the hide he just re barreled one of his. If I remember correctly he had 3k + through it.
Hit up Raydog here on the hide he just re barreled one of his. If I remember correctly he had 3k + through it.
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I've got a few TRG's and they are excellent. Had a Remington SPS in an AICS at one time, but sold it because I didn't like the stock once I got done looking at it's awesome design and tried shooting with it. As was mentioned earlier, the thumbhole on the AICS didn't work for my hand. That said, AI's (complete rifles) seem to hold their value better than the TRG but they differ very little, if any at all, in accuracy. The stock on the AI is certainly more durable and cooler looking (and I remember thinking it was heavy as hell). The TRG stock has been known to me to chip & when that textured finish chips, there's not much you can do to fix it easily. Regardless, to me, the TRG is far more comfortable to shoot.
Factory Sako accessories are only expensive if you don't look around or are above buying used. You can routinely get the factory brake on eBay or Gunbroker for $50.00 - $90.00. I just bought 3 of the older QD TRG two ring mounts on eBay for less than I'll ever admit to. Same goes for the bipod - look around and you'll save cash. Magazines on the other hand.....not so much. A stray used magazine is more rare.
Another thing to note is that Sako changed the bipod to a taller, narrower design so if you can get the older version, that is the way to go.
I have the 1:12" twist and the 1:10" twist in .338LM and have owned them for a few years and both still shoot to my satisfaction, so I can't speak to barrel life. I can say that if you get a TRG 42, you can expect to be very happy with the rifle.
I've got a few TRG's and they are excellent. Had a Remington SPS in an AICS at one time, but sold it because I didn't like the stock once I got done looking at it's awesome design and tried shooting with it. As was mentioned earlier, the thumbhole on the AICS didn't work for my hand. That said, AI's (complete rifles) seem to hold their value better than the TRG but they differ very little, if any at all, in accuracy. The stock on the AI is certainly more durable and cooler looking (and I remember thinking it was heavy as hell). The TRG stock has been known to me to chip & when that textured finish chips, there's not much you can do to fix it easily. Regardless, to me, the TRG is far more comfortable to shoot.
Factory Sako accessories are only expensive if you don't look around or are above buying used. You can routinely get the factory brake on eBay or Gunbroker for $50.00 - $90.00. I just bought 3 of the older QD TRG two ring mounts on eBay for less than I'll ever admit to. Same goes for the bipod - look around and you'll save cash. Magazines on the other hand.....not so much. A stray used magazine is more rare.
Another thing to note is that Sako changed the bipod to a taller, narrower design so if you can get the older version, that is the way to go.
I have the 1:12" twist and the 1:10" twist in .338LM and have owned them for a few years and both still shoot to my satisfaction, so I can't speak to barrel life. I can say that if you get a TRG 42, you can expect to be very happy with the rifle.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yasherka</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Concur. My single biggest beef with the TRG is the price of a new magazine: $175 is the cheapest I have found them. Consider AI's can be had for around $100 or less and if you you buy several, it adds up quick.
I don't have any problem with aftermarket parts, I have a Badger base, Seekins rings, Harris bipod (when oh when will Accu-Shot finish their TRG adapter?). But there are no aftermarket mags out there...
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I find it laughable that people (generally AI owners) are quick to point out that a TRG mag is about $75-$100 more than an AI mag but look right past the fact that the AI is about $2,500 more. That buys a LOT of magazines.</div></div>
Roger that...I got a TRG because I couldn't figure out what 7500 bought me as opposed to 2950. For the cost of the rifle, optics, brake, rail, bipod, dies, components, I still wasn't at the cost of a bare bones AI.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yasherka</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Concur. My single biggest beef with the TRG is the price of a new magazine: $175 is the cheapest I have found them. Consider AI's can be had for around $100 or less and if you you buy several, it adds up quick.
I don't have any problem with aftermarket parts, I have a Badger base, Seekins rings, Harris bipod (when oh when will Accu-Shot finish their TRG adapter?). But there are no aftermarket mags out there...
I find it laughable that people (generally AI owners) are quick to point out that a TRG mag is about $75-$100 more than an AI mag but look right past the fact that the AI is about $2,500 more. That buys a LOT of magazines.</div></div>
Roger that...I got a TRG because I couldn't figure out what 7500 bought me as opposed to 2950. For the cost of the rifle, optics, brake, rail, bipod, dies, components, I still wasn't at the cost of a bare bones AI.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: palmik</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Roger that...I got a TRG because I couldn't figure out what 7500 bought me as opposed to 2950. For the cost of the rifle, optics, brake, rail, bipod, dies, components, I still wasn't at the cost of a bare bones AI. </div></div>
I added mine up the other day: rifle, YHM can, PH 5-25, bipod, brake, anti-cant, came out to around $6700-ish. Not too bad for such a platform.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: palmik</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Roger that...I got a TRG because I couldn't figure out what 7500 bought me as opposed to 2950. For the cost of the rifle, optics, brake, rail, bipod, dies, components, I still wasn't at the cost of a bare bones AI. </div></div>
I added mine up the other day: rifle, YHM can, PH 5-25, bipod, brake, anti-cant, came out to around $6700-ish. Not too bad for such a platform.
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You'll be more than happy with the TRG-42. I've used mine for everything from matches to elk hunting in the rockies and it performs flawlessly every time I pull the trigger. If I miss, there is no doubt it was my fault. Make sure you buy great glass because you'll just want to keep shooting further and further out with this rifle.
You'll be more than happy with the TRG-42. I've used mine for everything from matches to elk hunting in the rockies and it performs flawlessly every time I pull the trigger. If I miss, there is no doubt it was my fault. Make sure you buy great glass because you'll just want to keep shooting further and further out with this rifle.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yasherka</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Concur. My single biggest beef with the TRG is the price of a new magazine: $175 is the cheapest I have found them. Consider AI's can be had for around $100 or less and if you you buy several, it adds up quick.
I don't have any problem with aftermarket parts, I have a Badger base, Seekins rings, Harris bipod (when oh when will Accu-Shot finish their TRG adapter?). But there are no aftermarket mags out there...
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I find it laughable that people (generally AI owners) are quick to point out that a TRG mag is about $75-$100 more than an AI mag but look right past the fact that the AI is about $2,500 more. That buys a LOT of magazines. </div></div>
+1 to Jer
If you are concerned about the cost of a magazine....maybe you should stick to crossword puzzles or bowling. If you actually shoot the thing,ammo will always be the biggest cost. Who cares about 350 bucks for the price delta on 4 mags.
Some people will drive 15mins to save .05 cents on a gallon of gas. You know who you are !
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yasherka</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Concur. My single biggest beef with the TRG is the price of a new magazine: $175 is the cheapest I have found them. Consider AI's can be had for around $100 or less and if you you buy several, it adds up quick.
I don't have any problem with aftermarket parts, I have a Badger base, Seekins rings, Harris bipod (when oh when will Accu-Shot finish their TRG adapter?). But there are no aftermarket mags out there...
I find it laughable that people (generally AI owners) are quick to point out that a TRG mag is about $75-$100 more than an AI mag but look right past the fact that the AI is about $2,500 more. That buys a LOT of magazines. </div></div>
+1 to Jer
If you are concerned about the cost of a magazine....maybe you should stick to crossword puzzles or bowling. If you actually shoot the thing,ammo will always be the biggest cost. Who cares about 350 bucks for the price delta on 4 mags.
Some people will drive 15mins to save .05 cents on a gallon of gas. You know who you are !
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Go for it, they are great shooters. If you don't burn through ammo at a fast rate, the barrel will last you around 5000-rounds. The 1-10 twist is better if you want to shoot 300-gr bullets, otherwise your limited to 250-gr bullets with the 1-12.
Good Luck!
Go for it, they are great shooters. If you don't burn through ammo at a fast rate, the barrel will last you around 5000-rounds. The 1-10 twist is better if you want to shoot 300-gr bullets, otherwise your limited to 250-gr bullets with the 1-12.
Good Luck!
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And there is nothing wrong with the 1-12. I'm sick of here people bitching about not getting the 300 gn pills. You can do everything with the 250s that you can with the 300s. That's unless your trying to do what that Brit did in A-Stan. I have been over 1200 yards with mine.
And there is nothing wrong with the 1-12. I'm sick of here people bitching about not getting the 300 gn pills. You can do everything with the 250s that you can with the 300s. That's unless your trying to do what that Brit did in A-Stan. I have been over 1200 yards with mine.
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I've been shooting 300 grainers in my 1:12. Not a single problem at long distances. I do like the Lapua 300 grain Scenar. They work better for me than the Matchkings. I can only get the Sierras to shoot well with less powder. But still shoot very well. I don't have a chrono or anything, but other people have used 300 grainers with success in their 1:12.
I've been shooting 300 grainers in my 1:12. Not a single problem at long distances. I do like the Lapua 300 grain Scenar. They work better for me than the Matchkings. I can only get the Sierras to shoot well with less powder. But still shoot very well. I don't have a chrono or anything, but other people have used 300 grainers with success in their 1:12.
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TRG-42 is an awesome platform for an out of the box solution. Just my opinion which is obviously bias.
TRG-42 is an awesome platform for an out of the box solution. Just my opinion which is obviously bias.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskaman 11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And there is nothing wrong with the 1-12. I'm sick of here people bitching about not getting the 300 gn pills. You can do everything with the 250s that you can with the 300s. That's unless your trying to do what that Brit did in A-Stan. I have been over 1200 yards with mine.</div></div>
I hit a mile the other day with the 250. They do fly nice indeed, but I would be more comfy with the 300s in the wind. But you cannot go wrong with the 250s.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskaman 11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And there is nothing wrong with the 1-12. I'm sick of here people bitching about not getting the 300 gn pills. You can do everything with the 250s that you can with the 300s. That's unless your trying to do what that Brit did in A-Stan. I have been over 1200 yards with mine.</div></div>
I hit a mile the other day with the 250. They do fly nice indeed, but I would be more comfy with the 300s in the wind. But you cannot go wrong with the 250s.
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There was a thread on here a while back where a Finnish sniper hit his target after one adjustment at around 2000 yards (meters?) using a 250 gr. Scenar in a 1:12 TRG. I don't see a problem using them to distance as I think they will outperform me.
In most cases it's personal preference, just as some prefer the AI over the TRG.
There was a thread on here a while back where a Finnish sniper hit his target after one adjustment at around 2000 yards (meters?) using a 250 gr. Scenar in a 1:12 TRG. I don't see a problem using them to distance as I think they will outperform me.
In most cases it's personal preference, just as some prefer the AI over the TRG.
