Is something going on in Ukraine?

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    sorry guys, I accidentally dumped some "motivational pics" in the Ukraine thread. My fault for multitasking!
     

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    sickening but not as much as news orgs not running these stories
    I’m certainly not taking up for the other side, but this is propaganda. How does one verify this? Anyone could take a empty form and throw anyone’s info in there and claim it as legit on Twitter.

    *Edit* never mind. I see some instructions on how to find this even tho I haven’t tried it. But it certainly would not surprise me.
     
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    I’m certainly not taking up for the other side, but this is propaganda. How does one verify this? Anyone could take a empty form and throw anyone’s info in there and claim it as legit on Twitter.

    *Edit* never mind. I see some instructions on how to find this even tho I haven’t tried it. But it certainly would not surprise me.
    not wrong at all in that view however, no one even sniffs or investigates in the media any longer. everyone too afraid by the powers that be
     

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    So y’all remember when Il Douché Trump called this whole Ukraine thing ‘genius’….?

    Was it though?
     

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    Right on schedule, after elections have ensured the status quo:

    * from parts seen in pictures so far it speculation is its a stray S-300 , so probably Ukrainan SAM

    I was expecting a rather more spectacular shoot, maybe a stray long-range AAM hitting one of the ISR birds that fly on the border all the time
    You know they could say they lost missile or one of Ukrainian S-300 went haywire

    Lots of birds that could 'accidentally' eat a SAM or AAM
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    Meanwhile ,the midterms are over ,Dominion Democrats won. Big tech can finally start mass layoffs and the corporate media finally admit there is a recession.Maybe Ukraine can bail out FTX , with the next aid package



     

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    Article 5

    The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

    Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security .

    The Russians are fucking incompetent. You can toss out everything said about The West provoking Putin. Just like the invasion their incompetence has now made all those arguments moot. Allowing missiles to strike Poland and kill civilians was remarkably stupid. You just cannot make this shit up. There are automatic triggers that come with this attack. Russia's position just got considerably worse, which brings the world closer to nuclear war.
     
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    * from parts seen in pictures so far it speculation is its a stray S-300 , so probably Ukrainan SAM

    I was expecting a rather more spectacular shoot, maybe a stray long-range AAM hitting one of the ISR birds that fly on the border all the time
    You know they could say they lost missile or one of Ukrainian S-300 went haywire

    Lots of birds that could 'accidentally' eat a SAM or AAM
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    Meanwhile ,the midterms are over ,Dominion Democrats won. Big tech can finally start mass layoffs and the corporate media finally admit there is a recession.Maybe Ukraine can bail out FTX , with the next aid package




    I will be very interested to see what marketable skills all these newly unemployed tech people have. My guess is that outside of their little bubble of feelings very little.
     

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    * from parts seen in pictures so far it speculation is its a stray S-300 , so probably Ukrainan SAM

    I was expecting a rather more spectacular shoot, maybe a stray long-range AAM hitting one of the ISR birds that fly on the border all the time
    You know they could say they lost missile or one of Ukrainian S-300 went haywire

    Lots of birds that could 'accidentally' eat a SAM or AAM
    View attachment 7999757

    Meanwhile ,the midterms are over ,Dominion Democrats won. Big tech can finally start mass layoffs and the corporate media finally admit there is a recession.Maybe Ukraine can bail out FTX , with the next aid package





    Well they did have a Global Hawk loitering over the area, so doubtless we'll have video proving they done went and did it.

     

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    Article 5

    The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

    Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security .

    The Russians are fucking incompetent. You can toss out everything said about The West provoking Putin. Just like the invasion their incompetence has now made all those arguments moot. Allowing missiles to strike Poland and kill civilians was remarkably stupid. You just cannot make this shit up. There are automatic triggers that come with this attack. Russia's position just got considerably worse, which brings the world closer to nuclear war.

    Nothing new missiles and drones have been flying around the neighborhood for a while

    Ukrainan drone with a bomb on board still holds a record as it flew trough 3 NATO country's airspace for about and hour without being intercepted . Was of course blamed on Russia even tough Ukraine was only user of said drones.

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    Article 5

    The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

    Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security .

    The Russians are fucking incompetent. You can toss out everything said about The West provoking Putin. Just like the invasion their incompetence has now made all those arguments moot. Allowing missiles to strike Poland and kill civilians was remarkably stupid. You just cannot make this shit up. There are automatic triggers that come with this attack. Russia's position just got considerably worse, which brings the world closer to nuclear war.

    What do the Russians gain by hitting a nonessential target in Poland?

    vs.

    What do the neocons, who have been champing at the bit for war, gain?

    The "attack" came within hours of Democratic control of the Senate being affirmed:


    IncomPOTUS is out of town sleeping, who's in control?
     

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    So, you don't believe these are Russian missiles?

    Russia has fired thousands of cruise and other missiles at Ukraine. This was going to happen, because their missile guidance and technology sucks. It has NEVER been on par with the free world, and Putin's "reforms" largely haven't worked. Rusia is weak and feckless, and I don't doubt for a moment it's their missiles as reported. That you point out where Ukranian missiles have wandered off doesn't support this as a false flag. It reaffirms reporting that these are Russian, as there would be no point in lying in the short or long term.

    How this is used by warmongers is another story entirely, but like I said it triggers an automatic convening of the NATO Security Council, which is in and of itself probably not a good thing for anyone who wants peace. This was a likely complication from the beginning.
     

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    So, you don't believe these are Russian missiles?

    Russia has fired thousands of cruise and other missiles at Ukraine. This was going to happen, because their missile guidance and technology sucks. It has NEVER been on par with the free world, and Putin's "reforms" largely haven't worked. Rusia is weak and feckless, and I don't doubt for a moment it's their missiles as reported. That you point out where Ukranian missiles have wandered off doesn't support this as a false flag. It reaffirms reporting that these are Russian, as there would be no point in lying in the short or long term.

    How this is used by warmongers is another story entirely, but like I said it triggers an automatic convening of the NATO Security Council, which is in and of itself probably not a good thing for anyone who wants peace. This was a likely complication from the beginning.
    Even if it would be an intentional Russian hit, no one will do anything.

    Its one thing playing war with no risk and no human cost to NATO ,like its now and whole another to expand 2way firing range to whole of Europe

    You have to know that Nato Europe is every bit as much of a paper tiger as Russia. Germans, French and the Brits together field 500 tanks, Germany has less than a dozen combat-ready airplanes, the whole attack helo fleet is grounded as is much of the Transport fleet, all submarines are out of commission undergoing repair. Brits don't have enough missiles and torpedoes to deploy with, they are literally rotating ammo from one ship to another when it deploys. They also just cut the size of armed forces ,due to budget woes.

    Rember NATO Europe ran out of bombs and missiles a week into bombing Libya.

    Not to mention we have about 5 days' worth of ammo , that was before we shipped everything into Ukraine, right now stocks are lower than ever before.

    Eastern Europe just disarmed by selling the tanks and APCs to US and Germany to be donated to Ukraine same with the helos that were sent to Ukraine , will take couple of years before donated gear is replaced. Poland might be signing all sorts of contracts for billions upon billions but that gear will take years to be delivered.

    Right now the military capability of EU forces is probably at its lowest point ever, so unless you expect US to ship over 300-500k soldiers and gear to fight a war in Europe , nothing is going to happen.

    * and the no.1 Nato army in 'Europe' Turks literally just accused US of funding the terrorists that bombed Istanbul
     
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    To many 'Heil Hitler' salutes aired, they should just have explained to dumb journos that is how they hail for the cab in Ukraine.

     
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    Took a peek at the air situation, most of Eastern Europe milair went dark, commercial traffic avoiding (?) Poland, US has more Poseidons (P8 sub Hunter's) up than (K35r) refuelers (normally fighter support or some long leg or heavy flts)

    Click "H" to see mil aircraft

    Overall a tick up but not wildly abnormal

    Since there is confusion as to the origin of the missile, don't expect much, at least until tomorrow.

    Wonder if whoever medicates Biden (up and down on speech days) adjusts dosages during imminent war? His blowing off dinner earlier (last night their time) was a pretty bad sign. These shindigs are big on that kinda pomp and circumstance.

     

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    Wonder if whoever medicates Biden (up and down on speech days) adjusts dosages during imminent war? His blowing off dinner earlier (last night their time) was a pretty bad sign. These shindigs are big on that kinda pomp and circumstance.

    Kamala and Nancy just put him on hospice. expect a rapid decline.
     

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    So this stray missile? Any proof of its origins?

    Also wtf is all this?
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    Farmers cart on top of an underground bunker? Looks like a potential hidden bunker.

    I don’t believe shit the media sells me.

    Remember when the US bombed those kids on the way out of Afghanistan and the pictures of the media was showing? it wasn’t even the right car that got hit?

    Need some solid proof. Also, NATO weapons have already cross the Russian border so I think getting your panties in a wad over this is a little bit ridiculous
     

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    Hey Zelensky... That’s not going to happen. Personally, I don’t think he is in the position to be setting pre conditions, What a tool.

    Giving a G20 speech is not negotiation.
     

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    This is 💯 fucked up if true, and would certainly explain a lot!



    it doesn't matter when the (((media))) buries the story.
    the nyt had an article with 2200+ words and didn't mention SBF donations to democrats.
     
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    Ukraine is like 'Forgotten weapons' had a warzone , some ex-japanese,ex-ukrainan Toyota MegaCruisers :love:
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    This gal does a clear and concise breakdown of FTX, and it's roll in Ukraine and the laundering to the Democrats in DC. Funny how we are not hearing about this at all from the MSM, if it was shinagians on the GOP or independant side there would be a never ending barrage of shit 24/7 shoved through the airwaves.

     

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    And how much of the money above is going to businesses and acquaintances and family members of those in Congress.

    Just think of the good it could have done at home. Fuck no, lets run the printing presses continually and drain the coffers dry.

    Wait, we're already well past that point.
     

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    And how much of the money above is going to businesses and acquaintances and family members of those in Congress.

    Just think of the good it could have done at home. Fuck no, lets run the printing presses continually and drain the coffers dry.

    Wait, we're already well past that point.
    "Ten percent for the big guy."
     

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    So, through the power of the the Penis (SBF's), corrupt Pedopeter and Zelensky, this person was responsible with 40B??

    This is what Apert's syndrome looks like (with some corrections via plastic surgery and dental work her daddy no doubt could afford).

    She has craniosynostosis. Forehead boney RIDGE (not just high forehead). Low set ears. Characteristic pointy chin. Those affected look more like each other than their own siblings.
    That's why she can't do math, is a Harry Potter fan at 28, and needs amphetamines to get off the couch. Affects on IQ are variable - so can appear "semi-normal" . But the face is a give away, even after plastic surgery.

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