Is something going on in Ukraine?

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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
To be honest. No one forced anyone to wear a mask. I never did. Not even when my wife was in the hospital. One person said something and a quick Shut The Fuck Up stunned him and I kept walking. One old lady said something and I told her that I was deaf and read lips so I couldn't understand what she was saying behind her mask. I still wonder if she ever figured it out.
Maybe you can see what the courts are saying in the lawsuits. No one forced you to get the jab or wear a mask. There were options. Some very hard choices but it was a government test. It divided the sheep and the fuck you's.
How many stood on the principle of Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death?
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I know of plenty of situations were people were denied access to jobs and buildings and what not, apparently you didn’t try to Fly or travel outside the country ... or get arrested and jailed. They would’ve forced you to wear a mask.

Now go on with your bad self Billy bad ass. Edit- thats ment jokingly. I agree with your position... no mask no needles for me
 
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theLBC said:
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the British government is, and has always been, flat out awful. We were never more correct than when we kicked their asses out after declaring independence.

Ask the Irish or the Indians what they think of British rule. The passage of several generations have dulled the hatred, but it's not forgotten.

The British, up until WW1 - which they instigated and then manipulated us into- felt that they were Europe's "Balance of Power" and they played off one group against another in order to always come out on top, despite the wars and suffering that they always caused. So, here they go again.

And it wouldn't be the first time that Britain invaded Russia. Cue "the Charge of the Light Brigade" at Balaclava.
 
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GreenGO Juan said:
Its apparently time to “Free Iran”...



Europe war- check
Middle East war- basically never ended
Asian war- working on it.
Africa- just add gasoline.

Now just get things to pop off in Australia and America and we are there!
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the president said let it ride....you will be damned.....make your last stand....in Tehran


but if anyone is the "Great Satan" it might be Joe Biden....or Schwab.....or Soros......
 
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GreenGO Juan said:
I know of plenty of situations were people were denied access to jobs and buildings and what not, apparently you didn’t try to Fly or travel outside the country ... or get arrested and jailed. They would’ve forced you to wear a mask.

Now go on with your bad self Billy bad ass. Edit- thats ment jokingly. I agree with your position... no mask no needles for me
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So there were no other options? Do you have a reading disability? No One Was Forced. The Other Options Were There!!
Go ahead and post a link to where someone was held down and jabbed. I will wait.
You sound vaxxed!! Bleet some more.
 
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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
So there were no other options? Do you have a reading disability? No One Was Forced. The Other Options Were There!!
Go ahead and post a link to where someone was held down and jabbed. I will wait.
You sound vaxxed!! Bleet some more.
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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
So there were no other options? Do you have a reading disability? No One Was Forced. The Other Options Were There!!
Go ahead and post a link to where someone was held down and jabbed. I will wait.
You sound vaxxed!! Bleet some more.
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I knew I should have just ignored it... anyway carry on with your bad self
 
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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
To be honest. No one forced anyone to wear a mask. I never did. Not even when my wife was in the hospital. One person said something and a quick Shut The Fuck Up stunned him and I kept walking. One old lady said something and I told her that I was deaf and read lips so I couldn't understand what she was saying behind her mask. I still wonder if she ever figured it out.
Maybe you can see what the courts are saying in the lawsuits. No one forced you to get the jab or wear a mask. There were options. Some very hard choices but it was a government test. It divided the sheep and the fuck you's.
How many stood on the principle of Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death?
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Ah, you're lucky. I was denied all kinds of shit because I refused to wear a mask in the coffee shop, at the grocery store, restaurants. Yeah I had people even saying shit to me and my family outside, I would tell them to "shut up" or that they were "stupid." And the outdoors stuff was easy to handle, mostly I would just ignore people. But being denied service or access was bullshit. Once I told some fuck face that our entire mask MO was based on a faulty Chinese study, and that's it, the CDC went by one study! Where there was a much better study that came out of Copenhagen University that was double blind and clearly showed that masks didn't work. Anyhow the fucking guy just gave me that blank stare, and shook his head.

I have come to the conclusion that people want .GOV to be their daddy, they don't want freedom, and they are totally cool with being told what to do. I give up!
 
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I said many times during the bullshit days of tyranny that it seems like we are in a bubble around here. I am not saying that some shit didn't happen here but what I was reading about other places didn't get that crazy.
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Ah, you're lucky. I was denied all kinds of shit because I refused to wear a mask in the coffee shop, at the grocery store, restaurants. Yeah I had people even saying shit to me and my family outside, I would tell them to "shut up" or that they were "stupid." And the outdoors stuff was easy to handle, mostly I would just ignore people. But being denied service or access was bullshit. Once I told some fuck face that our entire mask MO was based on a faulty Chinese study, and that's it, the CDC went by one study! Where there was a much better study that came out of Copenhagen University that was double blind and clearly showed that masks didn't work. Anyhow the fucking guy just gave me that blank stare, and shook his head.

I have come to the conclusion that people want .GOV to be their daddy, they don't want freedom, and they are totally cool with being told what to do. I give up!
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Agreed. There wouldn't be a bazillion laws on the books if people didn't run to government to solve their problem.
 
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GreenGO Juan said:
Forced out of his job... That is force you moron.
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You know what they are saying to the guys that left........"you did that on your own, you could have stayed, we didn't make you".

In their world I was "disciplined" for refusing a "lawful order".


Had a neighbor almost suicide himself by wanting to argue with me I "quit".


I had a choice, shit ton of big talking coworkers of the same frame of mind had a choice.

Had they hung in with me we would have won.

Same for the rest of the country.

They chose bad once they should have known better and that was when we had to "just flatten the curve".
 
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Steel+Killer said:
Can we change the name of this record long non sticky thread to just "Ukraine" I believe after 9.3K post the question has been answered......:)
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OP here, we'd have to reach at least 10k non-sticky posts before a title change could be considered. Maybe more, until we are super-certain. Don't want to rush in and make rash decisions.
 
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Cardboard55 said:
OP here, we'd have to reach at least 10k non-sticky posts before a title change could be considered. Maybe more, until we are super-certain. Don't want to rush in and make rash decisions.
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We can conclude that, in fact, something is going on in Ukraine. But I think we are still trying to determine what is it exactly that is going on. We can answer to where, when and how. But the "who" and "why" is still in question here. All I see is a bunch of our money and equipment going to fight the Ruskies who just wanted our equipment to not be there in the first place. The muppet master's curtain hasn't been pulled back yet on the FJB administration, so we can't determine exactly what their end goal is. Mr. potatohead certainly can't/won't tell us, but I doubt his handlers even tell him anything anyway. So, I think we still have a ways to go before we should seriously consider a title change, we need the full scoop first. Only then we can add another 10k posts discussing what the title will be changed to.
 
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papershredder said:
We can conclude that, in fact, something is going on in Ukraine. But I think we are still trying to determine what is it exactly that is going on. We can answer to where, when and how. But the "who" and "why" is still in question here. All I see is a bunch of our money and equipment going to fight the Ruskies who just wanted our equipment to not be there in the first place. The muppet master's curtain hasn't been pulled back yet on the FJB administration, so we can't determine exactly what their end goal is. Mr. potatohead certainly can't/won't tell us, but I doubt his handlers even tell him anything anyway. So, I think we still have a ways to go before we should seriously consider a title change, we need the full scoop first. Only then we can add another 10k posts discussing what the title will be changed to.
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some have suggested a great deal of equipment is just being staged for our soldiers when they get there.
 
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theLBC said:
some have suggested a great deal of equipment is just being staged for our soldiers when they get there.
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Well, the 82nd has been in Poland for some time, and the 101st in and around Romania. Looks like ships are supplementing the seemingly continuous flow of C17's flying into eastern Europe.

fortcampbell-courier.com

Lifeliners deploy to Europe through Slovenian port

KOPER, Slovenia – Equipment from the 101st Division Sustainment Brigade, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), arrived at the port here, Oct. 9, as the unit began its deployment to Europe.
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As for official or unofficial US and other NATO advisors in Ukraine, it's anyone's guess. It is somewhat concerning to see the numbers of advisors ramping up before an "official" conflict is authorized. Depending on election results, we could see some action from a lame duck Congress on that front.

For comparison, a thumbnail sketch of military advisors and their increases in Vietnam:


Take all interwebs summaries of Vietnam with a grain of salt, but do note the role politics played, along with bumbling advisors. Wonder who this administration's MacNamara is. Blinken? Nuland? Will there be a Gulf of Tonkin style event?
 
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Cardboard55 said:
Take all interwebs summaries of Vietnam with a grain of salt, but do note the role politics played, along with bumbling advisors. Wonder who this administration's MacNamara is. Blinken? Nuland? Will there be a Gulf of Tonkin style event?
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I'm pretty sure Victoria Nuland is still behind all things Ukraine. (Anybody else having proper names autocorrected over and over? My laptop really didn't want me to type her name and this hasn't been the first time).
 
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That ship which was carrying stuff for the 101st went to Kuwait after dropping things off. Now it is enroute to Incheon Korea, interesting...

www.marinetraffic.com

Ship LIBERTY PROMISE (Vehicles Carrier) Registered in USA - Vessel details, Current position and Voyage information - IMO 9448425, MMSI 366102000, Call sign WWMZ

Vessel LIBERTY PROMISE is a Vehicles Carrier, Registered in USA. Discover the vessel's particulars, including capacity, machinery, photos and ownership. Get the details of the current Voyage of LIBERTY PROMISE including Position, Port Calls, Destination, ETA and Distance travelled - IMO 9448425...
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Koper Slovenia is just south of Trieste, if anyone wants to poke around the Marine traffic sites.

Ships in Port KOPER, Slovenia ( - DUAL TRACKING - )

Live Port Map Tracker For Ships Current Position, Cruise booking, Port Info, Shipping Companies, Geo Coordinates, Local Time and Time Zone for port KOPER, Slovenia
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Cardboard55 said:
That ship which was carrying stuff for the 101st went to Kuwait after dropping things off. Now it is enroute to Incheon Korea, interesting...

www.marinetraffic.com

Ship LIBERTY PROMISE (Vehicles Carrier) Registered in USA - Vessel details, Current position and Voyage information - IMO 9448425, MMSI 366102000, Call sign WWMZ

Vessel LIBERTY PROMISE is a Vehicles Carrier, Registered in USA. Discover the vessel's particulars, including capacity, machinery, photos and ownership. Get the details of the current Voyage of LIBERTY PROMISE including Position, Port Calls, Destination, ETA and Distance travelled - IMO 9448425...
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Koper Slovenia is just south of Trieste, if anyone wants to poke around the Marine traffic sites.

Ships in Port KOPER, Slovenia ( - DUAL TRACKING - )

Live Port Map Tracker For Ships Current Position, Cruise booking, Port Info, Shipping Companies, Geo Coordinates, Local Time and Time Zone for port KOPER, Slovenia
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It wasn't even hidden or hush hush as there were plenty of notices to the "increased traffic" but they mostly did it by night...

www.slovenskavojska.si

Announcement of military vehicle movement through the territory of the Republic of Slovenia

www.slovenskavojska.si www.slovenskavojska.si

www.army.mil

101st ‘Lifeliners’ deploy to Europe through Slovenian port facility

KOPER, Slovenia— Equipment from the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), Division Sustainment Brigade (‘Lifeliners’), arrived at the port here, Octobe...
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Only useful if there will be a negotiated solution and troops will be sent somewhere really fast. Other than that a classic disclaimer that due to the lunacy and incompetence (or malice dunno) of Western leadership who knows, perhaps even a sacrifice of 101st "Pearl Harbor" style is not out of the question and might as well be a plan to attack liberate Tiraspol or worse enter Ukropland (with Odessa being out of the range of helis).
 
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The “media” is claiming the USA is pushing for Ukraine to negotiate with Russia... but didn’t name a source.

www.reuters.com

Ukrainians celebrate soldiers retaking Kherson, Russia's latest defeat

Jubilant residents welcomed Ukrainian troops arriving in the centre of Kherson on Friday after Russia abandoned the only regional capital it had captured since its invasion began in February.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

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GreenGO Juan said:
The “media” is claiming the USA is pushing for Ukraine to negotiate with Russia... but didn’t name a source.

www.reuters.com

Ukrainians celebrate soldiers retaking Kherson, Russia's latest defeat

Jubilant residents welcomed Ukrainian troops arriving in the centre of Kherson on Friday after Russia abandoned the only regional capital it had captured since its invasion began in February.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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they are basically asking kiev to lie about being open to negotiate, while they actually won't give an inch for peace.

The newspaper cited unnamed sources as saying the request by American officials was not aimed at pushing Ukraine to the negotiating table, but a calculated attempt to ensure Kyiv maintains the support of other nations.
 
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theLBC said:
they are basically asking kiev to lie about being open to negotiate, while they actually won't give an inch for peace.

The newspaper cited unnamed sources as saying the request by American officials was not aimed at pushing Ukraine to the negotiating table, but a calculated attempt to ensure Kyiv maintains the support of other nations.
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Sounds about right.
 
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Democrats on trajectory to losing elections = election interference if Republicans lose it there was no election interference

edition.cnn.com

Suspected Russian trolls use political cartoons to denigrate Democratic candidates as midterms approach | CNN Politics

Suspected Russian operatives have used far-right media platforms to denigrate Democratic candidates in Georgia, New York, Ohio and Pennsylvania in a renewed effort to influence voters in next week's midterm elections, private researchers said Thursday.
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www.cyberscoop.com

Americans should be ready — and watching — for Russian meddling in the midterms and beyond

Considering Putin’s threats against the West, it is unlikely Moscow will waive an opportunity to undermine the U.S. during election season.
www.cyberscoop.com www.cyberscoop.com

101 of skirting sanctions, buy from friendly neighboring countries, but of course, for gullible idiots, there is an endless stream of propaganda BS
www.bloomberg.com

Putin Stirs European Worry on Home Appliance Imports Stripped for Arms

There’s been a boom in European exports of washing machines, refrigerators and even electric breast pumps to Russia’s neighbors since Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com

The unnamed corporation is probably bs as well.
www.bloomberg.com

Chip-Starved Firms Are Scavenging Silicon From Washing Machines

A major industrial conglomerate has resorted to buying washing machines and tearing out the semiconductors inside for use in its own chip modules, according to the CEO of a company central to the chipmaking supply chain.
www.bloomberg.com www.bloomberg.com

Something for the absolute morons.
www.thedrive.com

Speed Cameras Stolen From Sweden May Be Ending Up in Russian Drones: Report

Over 160 speed cameras have been stolen from Swedish roads in recent months. Local reports say they're being used in Russian surveillance drones in Ukraine.
www.thedrive.com www.thedrive.com
 
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steve podleski said:
shades of june 1941! MG battalions 'pour encourager les autres' are back .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...sedgntp&cvid=6309c4f8808445ca813bc9c19131663a
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"We were thrown into landings, they told us to dig in, we had three shovels per battalion"
"All survivors and new arrivals are grouped into new battalions and thrown to the front to close the line of defense," he said.
^ If that doesn't make you feel good about going back to the front line. Infantry most likely digging with knifes since they're weren't enough shovels. Officers run when the shelling hits..
 
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That means all the current planned and future planned deliveries of $$$€€€pesosyuanetc, HIMARS, MIMARS, FUMARS, FUBARS(error error delete), M777, M888, M999, V1(error error delete), V2(oh my god you dirty mind you), starlink, uplink, uber, facebook, twitter are now off the table?
Just a traffic map of Moscow for the Ukrops troops to handle the increased traffic due to the multiple brigades of NATO Ukrop troops rolling in at the same time is needed?

I mean really can you actually be that stupid or that desperate for a seminazi win i mean real nazis had at least good tailor and considered Slavic nazis an useful idiots. The more entire NATO&Co plows into the dirt the more they are screaming not so high eagle not so high.... jesus f. christ this propaganda shit is getting pathetic to the bone...
 
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Oh just to add just got the latest intel on Ruskies:
Don't expect to hear anything from the Kremlin for the next 24 hours.
VVPutin will be very busy on his Commodore 64 hacking the US elections so Republicans win big.
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Stolen from another forum too good not to be shared with patriots in the West. It wasn't Sinclair LGBT spectrum but Commodore muscular x64 with its big sturdy joystick....
 
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sharac said:
That means all the current planned and future planned deliveries of $$$€€€pesosyuanetc, HIMARS, MIMARS, FUMARS, FUBARS(error error delete), M777, M888, M999, V1(error error delete), V2(oh my god you dirty mind you), starlink, uplink, uber, facebook, twitter are now off the table?
Just a traffic map of Moscow for the Ukrops troops to handle the increased traffic due to the multiple brigades of NATO Ukrop troops rolling in at the same time is needed?

I mean really can you actually be that stupid or that desperate for a seminazi win i mean real nazis had at least good tailor and considered Slavic nazis an useful idiots. The more entire NATO&Co plows into the dirt the more they are screaming not so high eagle not so high.... jesus f. christ this propaganda shit is getting pathetic to the bone...
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Well, anonymous sources did tell MSN these "facts", so who are we to question?
 
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So at the UN, the USA and Ukraine two times voted against a resolution condemning Nazism. Results of the second vote
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Claiming its just Russian disinformation. First vote happened in 2021 the second time it’s just a few days ago. Apparently they are still trying to deny the Existence of Nazis in the Ukrainian ranks...

usun.usmission.gov

Explanation of Vote on a Third Committee Resolution by the Russian Federation on Combatting the Glorification of Nazism

In closing, the United States calls on the Russian Federation to cease its use of force against Ukraine immediately, withdraw its forces from all of Ukraine’s territory, refrain from any further unlawful threat or use of force against any other Member State, and — finally — drop the false...
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GreenGO Juan said:
So at the UN, the USA and Ukraine two times voted against a resolution condemning Nazism. Results of the second vote View attachment 7993824

Claiming its just Russian disinformation. First vote happened in 2021 the second time it’s just a few days ago. Apparently they are still trying to deny the Existence of Nazis in the Ukrainian ranks...

usun.usmission.gov

Explanation of Vote on a Third Committee Resolution by the Russian Federation on Combatting the Glorification of Nazism

In closing, the United States calls on the Russian Federation to cease its use of force against Ukraine immediately, withdraw its forces from all of Ukraine’s territory, refrain from any further unlawful threat or use of force against any other Member State, and — finally — drop the false...
usun.usmission.gov usun.usmission.gov
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Read the linked article... The Paper Tiger has spoken.
 
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