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Sidearms & Scatterguns Is the debate over yet?

What a faggot. How about 308?

Federal JHP Defense Faggot Load
Caliber: .45 ACP
Bullet Weight: 230 grain
Bullet Style: Jacketed Hollow Point
Muzzle Velocity: 850 FPS
Muzzle Energy: 369 ft.-lbs

Hornady 308 Fuck You Load
Caliber: 3 oh fucking 8
Bullet Weight: 178 units of whatever fuck-yous are measured in
Bullet Style: ELD-X
Muzzle Velocity: ~2500 FPS (fuck yous per second)
Muzzle Energy: ~2500 ft.-lbs

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/06/11/m48-nch-nosler-custom-handgun/
 
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Yes... Till you pull out a DE with hot .50AE loads, that you can still have fun and be pretty accurate & fast with.

You can of course jump up to the insane stuff such as the .500 S&W, but good luck getting off a second shot anytime soon with one of those.

if someone comes out with a .500SW that you can CC.....ide be all over that.

hell, even if they came out with a .500SW-SHORT cartridge......a .50cal projectile loaded it down to .44mag power levels......ide buy that in a heart beat.
 
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I think the Israelis have it figured out personally.

They at least have crowd control figured out, everybody gets the water cannons to cool down, shame we don't do it as much here.
Then again maybe with the quality of people providing the "ride" services, more might want to get in on it.


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The reason they dont use german shepards is akin to Edmund Pettus Bridge and why we have ended water hose use.

Effective but optically incorrect.
 
They at least have crowd control figured out, everybody gets the water cannons to cool down, shame we don't do it as much here.
Then again maybe with the quality of people providing the "ride" services, more might want to get in on it.


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On another topic....

Last summer we took the family tubing the Saco River in NH.

Just behind us was a Hassidic group also enjoy the great summer weather.

They rode their tubes in full Hassidic regalia.

Thankfully my God wants me to be comfortable.
 
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They at least have crowd control figured out, everybody gets the water cannons to cool down, shame we don't do it as much here.
Then again maybe with the quality of people providing the "ride" services, more might want to get in on it.


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Spent eneough time in Krav to have a healthy respect for visiting Israeli women from their military.? All I’ll say is you better not discount them or you will likely be placed in a time out that involves a nap. ?
 
I'm going to provide one of my favorite quotes of all time:

"Pistols put holes in people. Rifles put holes through people. Shotguns, at the right range with the right load, will physically remove a chunk of shit off your opponent and throw that shit on the floor. And you will have to get someone to come and clean that shit up with a shovel. But it's gotta be the right load at the right range."