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Is Trump being set up by the senate?

The role of the House is as that of a Grand Jury.

They investigate, define where crime may be exist, and present articles of indictment. The evidence for the trial, of one occurs, must be evident in the presentation. Only if a trial is actually appropriate does anything proceed, and it is at this point where that trial can only proceed if the indictment and evidence presented meets the presiding justice's standard for trial. A clear and obvious crime must be evident.

There is no vote necessary, just some guts residing in the seat of Justice John Roberts. What he does defines whether we live under the rule of law or the rule of personal opinion. I have very little faith in that man, but I would love to be proven incorrect.

In this case it is not clear that any crime occurred; there are just accusations and vague definitions that conform only to the wild imaginations of delusional bigots.

If there is to be a trial, no useful purpose can be served by parading alleged witnesses. Hearsay is not admissible in a Court of Law.

Nothing need be proved by the Senate. The burden of that proof is on the House, and that proof must be contained in the indictment. And that has already been submitted, and is lacking of anything other than hearsay and innuendo.

Some are saying that this all is very entertaining.

No.

This is despicable and tragic. It contains within itself the seed of a dying Republic, and a trammeled Constitution. This is the act of treason cloaked in sanctimonious hypocrisy.

Someone should pay; many someones. Pay hard.

Greg
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she is dirty, and i think they were on to her for a while.
she lied in her testimony and should be arrested.
She was the lbgqxyz rep for the state department. She was put there in Ukraine because they thought that they had her to cover up the shitstain's mess. They had it figured the dept would not fire her because she was gay and they would have a reason being any dem claiming racism or a host of other claims that are nonrelevant.
Apparently they never watched the apprentice
 
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I have a sneaking feeling that this upcoming trial wont go they way Trump is thinking. I was reading that the senate wants to use witness reciprocity. So the senate will give in to the house demands for more witnesses, in order for them to provide their own witnesses.

Why would the senate need to entertain any demands at all from the house? The senate can call on witnesses as it sees fit right? I sense some undermining and deals being made by Rino's and politicians just being typical politicians.

Are you thinking a possible removal from office?? I can't resolve that math in my head the amount of Republicans who would be willing to commit career suicide just to spite Trump. If 20 of them turned left voted to remove I bet 18 of them are out when their term is up. Is that the setup? I like McConnel goading the Dems
 
If I see it right the House actions were in effect the same as a Grand Jury indictment. There's NO basis to allow for the defense to have witnesses present. Once over to the Senate a "trial" as common people know it is going to happen. The trial allows the "prosecution" to bring in any testimony and witnesses WHILE allowing the defense to call their own testimony and ANY witnesses.

Seems as the Dems want to run the Senate from the House. That's my problem with it all.
 
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The house still has not charged Trump with a crime. There is no statute that the charges they voted on they can cite.
This is how fucked up the left is. Piglosi's choice of managers all claimed impeachable offenses prior to the whistleblower's complaint. The are all fact witnesses because of that. Nadler was caught on the train from NYC to DC on 11/9/2016 talking on the phone on how to remove him from office. Reported by Mollie Hemmingway on FOX that week. He denied it but as we see it was indeed a fact.
The dems think they are smart when they know the press will not out them. This is going to be fun to watch. Romney and a few others are haters but not near as dumb as the dems
 
Trump registered as a Republican in Manhattan in 1987 and since that time has changed his party affiliation five times. In 1999, Trump changed his party affiliation to the Independence Party of New York. In August 2001, Trump changed his party affiliation to Democratic. In September 2009, Trump changed his party affiliation back to the Republican Party. In December 2011, Trump changed to "no party affiliation" (independent). In April 2012, Trump again returned to the Republican Party.[3]
In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat," explaining: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans."[4] In a July 2015 interview, Trump said that he has a broad range of political positions and that "I identify with some things as a Democrat."


Perhaps his lack of allegiance concerns them.
who gives a fuck what he registered as, he's done more for this country than the rest going back to 1964
 
The shitstorm in Virginia plus Trump shampeachment in my view pretty much guarantees (absent massive fraud) democrats will lose Virginia this year.
 
Ask yourself why one political party would be so against election integrity they equate having to show identification with racism?
They are the racists. They prove it every day. Minorities can't have ID because it's too hard for them to prove who they are? Shumer and Bernie could show a Nazi a thing about being anti Semitic. I hate these socialist fucks with all my heart. They are the absolute worst enemy of minorities and Jews.
 
Perhaps I'm just dead wrong and this is a giant ruse that I cannot see. I am COUNTING on the narcissism and egos of these politicians to keep doing as they are told. Dems and Repubs know if they step out of line they are done in politics. Maybe Romney is bored and he will pull a Jeff Flake and not seek another term or have a McStain thumbs down moment knowing he was done, but no way will he recruit enough of his fellow Repubs to turn the tide these ass holes love their jobs too much. That's what I'm counting on.....who has balls big enough to fold their political careers to get back at Trump? I'm saying nowhere near enough. Big mouth small balls syndrome even on Romney I think.....a lot of people talk the talk, but when it comes time to pay up they have alligator arms.
 
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It's all a scripted Reality Show to keep the US Population watching the TV and fighting/hating "the other guys" while the Global Oligarchy that runs our Government pulls the strings and makes the next scenario. Don't you guys get it? Trump, Pelosi, Shumer, McConnell, ....they all work for the same Oligarchy and it wants (and is acquiring) the US's wealth while we all bicker and bitch and posture like a bunch of bitchy little kids.

It's over. Vote how ya want, the Politicians (your "Representation") are *ALL* owned and operated by a Global Oligarchy and the System is rigged and your vote means Jack. Fucking. Shit. Who is in office means Jack. Fucking. Shit.

It's all a game to keep US hating each other while they disarm US, steal our retirement and homes and savings, and then, in the end, send Storm Troopers to clean up those who have resisted. It's over. Vote how ya want - impeach them, send them letters, call them names. They don't fucking care. Democrat or Republican, Senator or Representative...President or Wanna Bee......they all work for The Oligarchy. The rest is all a screen play/movie/TV show with actors who are paid to act like they are caring, representing, working for US.

It's over.

The impeachment was about the Democrats timing this whole fiasco to make sure Warren and Sanders and Klobuchar are sitting in a Senate impeachment trial while the Democratic Primaries are in full swing thus insuring the nomination of Joe Biden....They are rigging their Primary like they did in 2016 and the Senate has already decided it's not going to convict/remove Trump. It's all fixed and we are just watching the Drama like a bunch of teenagers watching porno. What a fucking hoot. A fixed impeachment and a rigged trial. Meanwhile *NoThInG!* is getting done and all of our Representation is getting paid shit loads and doing absolutely fucking nothing.

But oh Boy Howdy, look at the show!

VooDoo
 
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if They manage to remove trump while Hillary is free my gloves are coming off.
Don't worry you'll be keeping your gloves on. Clintons are untouchable get used to it.
 
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The impeachment was about the Democrats timing this whole fiasco to make sure Warren and Sanders and Klobuchar are sitting in a Senate impeachment trial while the Democratic Primaries are in full swing thus insuring the nomination of Joe Biden....They are rigging their Primary like they did in 2016 and the Senate has already decided it's not going to convict/remove Trump. It's all fixed and we are just watching the Drama like a bunch of teenagers watching porno. What a fucking hoot. A fixed impeachment and a rigged trial. Meanwhile *NoThInG!* is getting done and all of our Representation is getting paid shit loads and doing absolutely fucking nothing.

But oh Boy Howdy, look at the show!

VooDoo
Im not understanding what you mean?
 
oh ok thx. I didnt know if there was something stating that they couldnt run while part of that
Can't recall who called in, but on local talk radio yesterday morning some DC presser listed the com restrictions on Senators from gavel drop to vote it's pretty tight.
 
It's difficult to campaign when you are stuck in hearings for a month. It's ike they are on the moon while Senate trial is in session. Dems want Biden....tie up his competition in defacto bubble.

Exactly. The whole timing and the impeachment charges and House deliberation has been timed to keep Warren and Sanders tied up in the Senate and off the campaign trail during these critical weeks leading up to Super Tuesday...without a very strong showing Warren and Sanders have little chance of securing the Democratic Party nomination. Pretty hard to campaign when you are sitting in the Senate listening to testimony.

The Democrats rigged the Primary against Sanders in 2016 and are rigging it again...Sanders is *not* a Democrat - Warren is a Liberal and the Democrats do not want Liberals. They want Corporate owned and operated candidates like Biden. Pelosi absolutely loathes AOC who is actively campaigning for Sanders. It's 2016 all over again for 2020 where the Democrats are concerned.

Just watch.

VooDoo
 
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Exactly. The whole timing and the impeachment charges and House deliberation has been timed to keep Warren and Sanders tied up in the Senate and off the campaign trail during these critical weeks leading up to Super Tuesday...without a very strong showing Warren and Sanders have little chance of securing the Democratic Party nomination. Pretty hard to campaign when you are sitting in the Senate listening to testimony.

The Democrats rigged the Primary against Sanders in 2016 and are rigging it again...Sanders is *not* a Democrat - Warren is a Liberal and the Democrats do not want Liberals. They want Corporate owned and operated candidates like Biden. Pelosi absolutely loathes AOC who is actively campaigning for Sanders. It's 2016 all over again for 2020 where the Democrats are concerned.

Just watch.

VooDoo
Talk about a gift: Biden as the candidate? He may very well have a full on stroke on stage when under the pressure of live debates with Trump. His gaffes are epic the guy is an effing train wreck w/o handlers. Is anyone going to be shocked if Biden has a Tourettes type outburst 'shit...piss fuck.....big big titties....fuck you all!' moment? The lib media can do all they want to spin a narrative, but Trump won't abide by the moderators soft balls for Biden w/o redirecting. This is where I believe people will see the worst Biden moments when he can't get coddled and protected by progressive moderators. Not only does Trump not get nervous in that environment he thrives on it. We will never see another POTUS like Trump in our lifetime.

Cannot fathom what is going on inside Pelosi's head right now she knows they are screwed either way. She cannot hide the countenance on her face it's resolved to 'fuuuuuuuugggggg'....even more than the stone faced botox face lift usually shows us.
 
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I disagree.

The left calls Trump a racist at every opportunity BECAUSE of his popularity with black people. Trump is eating into black America's near total allegiance to the Democrats. He has a larger following among black people than any Republican President since Eisenhower.
If anyone but Biden gets the nom they will not decisively get the black vote and it becomes an almost automatic loss for the Dems.

Biden was the slow kid his whole life, and now he's lost a couple of steps. As terrible a candidate as he was the 2.5 times he ran before, including the time he dropped out for lying and plagiarism, he is far worse now. The reason that CNN tried to destroy Bernie the other night by, essentially, the moderators calling him a liar was for Biden. This is designed to hurt Trump, but also to knock the Senators out of the race is because they can't win without Black America voting for them as a block, and right now the other three have almost zero support. Now, that would certainly change if one of them got the nomination, but the party leaders are completely freaked out, and are not willing to take the chance.
 
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trump is interfering with the election because he is asking if biden is dirty...
so we are going to ask if trump is dirty to interfere with his election.
 
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Talk about a gift: Biden as the candidate? He may very well have a full on stroke on stage when under the pressure of live debates with Trump. His gaffes are epic the guy is an effing train wreck w/o handlers. Is anyone going to be shocked if Biden has a Tourettes type outburst 'shit...piss fuck.....big big titties....fuck you all!' moment? The lib media can do all they want to spin a narrative, but Trump won't abide by the moderators soft balls for Biden w/o redirecting. This is where I believe people will see the worst Biden moments when he can't get coddled and protected by progressive moderators. Not only does Trump not get nervous in that environment he thrives on it. We will never see another POTUS like Trump in our lifetime.

Cannot fathom what is going on inside Pelosi's head right now she knows they are screwed either way. She cannot hide the countenance on her face it's resolved to 'fuuuuuuuugggggg'....even more than the stone faced botox face lift usually shows us.

After the last debate, a slew of Democrats and leftist MSM reporters commented on-air that they couldn't see anyone on that stage beating Trump, and Biden was on that stage. I think they are looking to someone like Bloomberg or Hilary to save the day.
 
The house impeached the president, but now asking for witnesses so they can impeach the President.

They already had their chance, but now saying they need witnesses to impeach. So they impeached the president on nothing by their own admission
Interest point. That's a position most maybe haven't considered.
 
who gives a fuck what he registered as, he's done more for this country than the rest going back to 1964
Exactly. Many of you trigger jockies have either yourselves been, or are descendants of, Democrats.
 
After the last debate, a slew of Democrats and leftist MSM reporters commented on-air that they couldn't see anyone on that stage beating Trump, and Biden was on that stage. I think they are looking to someone like Bloomberg or Hilary to save the day.

Heck we will all find out soon enough, but I invite the opportunity to watch Joe commit seppuku v POTUS in live debates. Of course anything can and will happen so we gotta wait it out, but I like the circular firing squad they have going on it's solid.
 
Michael Avenatti is currently still available to run with Stormy "suck your balls off " Daniels

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Sometimes I think the odds are the same of The Senate setting up Trump or Trump is setting them up.

I just want it over. I am sick to death of the whole subversive thing.
 
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I disagree.

The left calls Trump a racist at every opportunity BECAUSE of his popularity with black people. Trump is eating into black America's near total allegiance to the Democrats. He has a larger following among black people than any Republican President since Eisenhower.
If anyone but Biden gets the nom they will not decisively get the black vote and it becomes an almost automatic loss for the Dems.

Biden was the slow kid his whole life, and now he's lost a couple of steps. As terrible a candidate as he was the 2.5 times he ran before, including the time he dropped out for lying and plagiarism, he is far worse now. The reason that CNN tried to destroy Bernie the other night by, essentially, the moderators calling him a liar was for Biden. This is designed to hurt Trump, but also to knock the Senators out of the race is because they can't win without Black America voting for them as a block, and right now the other three have almost zero support. Now, that would certainly change if one of them got the nomination, but the party leaders are completely freaked out, and are not willing to take the chance.

You're spot on with the BLEXIT comment. I have several friends that are closet conservatives and are black. Some of our lunch time discussions are quite entertaining and enlightening. The high school I attended most (was military, so I went to two different HS's) was 85% black, and so my current friends understand my familiarity with "the black vote" and the many issues faced by inner city people of color...none of which are really addressed by democratic policies. We all agree that it is more in line with institutionalization than anything else. (Just like the American Indian reservations.)

"Taken for Granted" by Gianno Caldwell is an excellent read, and clearly paints the picture of many African Americans' awakening currently going on...

The Dems know this; hence their support for illegal immigration (which I think will back fire on them honestly).
 
Personally, I think the more witnesses and the more public the hearings/trial is the better

Let's just have a battle royale with unlimited witnesses for the prosecution and defense lol

Definitely a subscriber to the sunlight is a great disinfectant mindset

Given all the prosecutions for obstruction and perjury for Trump campaign workers, which were basically glorified perjury traps, there would be potential criminal liability exposure for giving false testimony under oath for any witnesses that are called and if the witnesses don't lie, the more exposure of the rampant corruption in the swamp the better
 
Uh Oh...

Crime identified.

Interesting timing.

OMG it's over he's out!!!! Lol one more try to bring him down.....this GAO report is about as binding and as my yelling at neighbors dog for shitting on my yard. Funny how they didn't mention in headline the OMB disagreed. Fox Editor 'how can I get the most clicks out of a nothing story?'
 
Uh Oh...

Crime identified.

Interesting timing.


so is the issue that the funds were delayed until corruption issues could be cleared up or that the funds were never given? ETA (my understanding is that the funds were ultimately given as apportioned but there was a delay apparently too slow for the dims, probably the delay of funds made it a little tough for the kids of the swamp members to get their checks from sitting on boards of ukranian companies for a while)

don't have any documents to support this but it seems like if one had access to the information that many instances of funds apportioned by congress have been delayed for many reasons by the executive branch

seems like that opinion is overbroad and "proves too much" unless we are going to go back and say any delay of funds apportioned by congress was illegal if the delay was from the executive branch???
 
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Timing is everything just as the Battle of Richmond is won the Militias can march north about 100 miles to Washington and clean the treasonous vermin from that sewer
 
This whole GAO thing stinks to high heaven as more swamp swill. Non-partisan my ass. The timing alone makes is suspect. If they had this why didn't they release it during the House hearings?
 
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The White House budget office specifically said the payment delay was fine, gave other examples and said they paid it within the legal fiscal timeframe