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Just saw cnn walking around talking to crowds in Tehran ,you would think they defeated both the US and Israel .....there is no government revolt on those streets ,quite the opposite
Protestors meet a swift deadly fate. It's how the leaders weed the garden. Keep chopping heads and making examples, and people stfu.
Need to really smash leadership. Only one fate can cure the radicals and that's a quick one-way meeting to alah.
 
I was hoping to see a hit on this structure. It appears to still be intact.

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Do we know what it is? I mean, if it's on the surface like that, is it really that critical? Perhaps an HVAC facility for the underground structure? Or some meeting or holding facility for personnel, before they "go down?" ?????
 
Do we know what it is? I mean, if it's on the surface like that, is it really that critical? Perhaps an HVAC facility for the underground structure? Or some meeting or holding facility for personnel, before they "go down?" ?????
It's a structure that deserves a hole. Hit every fk'n building and entrance so the enemy can't use it.
Looks like a great place to store anything that you don't want destroyed. Hell, even a few JDAMs to let em know we care.
 
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It seems US-Iran kabuki theatre had plenty of carrots thrown in for Iranians to go along



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Freshly promoted IRGC crew ,i guess they can go on TV and play along with bombing worked.



As for Iranian Nuke ? Just kidding it was just an window of opportunity to attack Iran while its down, before it rebuilt air defenses

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It is better to negotiate from a position of strength, than a position of weakness.

If (BIG IF) the end result of 14 MOPs and 30 Tomahawks is 1. the shooting war between Israel & Iran stops, 2. Iran's near and medium-term enrichment capability is eliminated, 3. Iran negotiates a deal after their military has been massively degraded that (largely or mostly) stops enrichment with international oversight and allows them to legitimately reenter the international oil marketplace for the sake of their economy and 4. US military capabilities have been demonstrated to Russia, China and the rest of the world....isn't that a demonstration of diplomacy via strength to the entire international community?

We'll see what happens, but sometimes if the carrot isn't taken the stick has to be used first.
 
meh, china was already getting lots of oil from iran, despite whatever sanctions were in place.
Yes ,but when sanctioned Russian ,Iranian or Venezuelan crude is sold at discount and only to smaller independent chinese rafiners that specialise in sanctioned crude are buying . Sanction relief is likely worth hundrets of millions if not billions in revenue as they can sell at practically market prices instead of a discount.
 
 
Yes ,but when sanctioned Russian ,Iranian or Venezuelan crude is sold at discount and only to smaller independent chinese rafiners that specialise in sanctioned crude are buying . Sanction relief is likely worth hundrets of millions if not billions in revenue as they can sell at practically market prices instead of a discount.
Also, increased legitimate supply will probably drive down prices, hurting the Russian economy as it is mainly oil based.

Wheels inside of wheels…….
 
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If the shipping lanes are kept open for China then they would be open for all I'm guessing.

So drill faster pump harder ship it everywhere? Won't that cave the price of our crude?

I like cheap gasoline but I also like our oil industry working as well.

Trade off point is ? 60$ a barrel and what for gasoline? Is there such a point in reality.
 
Also, increased legitimate supply will probably drive down prices, hurting the Russian economy as it is mainly oil based.

Wheels inside of wheels…….

Which is how you de-fund their ability to wage the Ukraine War...

Wheels inside of wheels inside a hall of mirrors as well!

Sirhr
 
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Kahmnei has been on a side track for a while especialy now as 'freshly' promoted IRGC generals vie for power ,Israeli strikes will resoult in opposite of what they imagined . Old guard that came up post Iran-Iraq war was killed and much more hawkish new guard will take their place.

As for mass arrests and executions ,hangman will definetly be busy and in such situations life is cheap , most folks working for Mossad are turning out to be Afghans so Iranians will even more zealously go after them. This hunt will last for months or even years and in mean time expect occasional thing blowing up. As just because Trump had a mission acomplished moment neither Israelis or Iranians are realy done with each other.

Fun fact ,Afghans are also disposable manpower for IRGC proxies in ME , particulary Syria ,Iraq these when there are no locals to be had ,only Iranians actualy on the ground are officers that command these militias , So its kinda ironic Afghans being disposable fodder for both Israelis and Iranians
 
Killing each other and fucking goats is the national pastime for the region.

Like DJT said "they been fighting for so long they don't know what the fuck they're doing".

Interesting side note, the DJT quote now comes up on predictive text. LMAO

If the region didn't have oil nobody in the world would care about anything going on.

I suggest we, they, them keep sniping Iran's leader till we find one that's amiable.

It's cheaper and can always be spun up as internal unrest.

Maybe we could get Soros to fund some rioters since evedently no one knows he does it.
 
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News flash.

De te de dit------- - ------ ----

Several Preditor drones, associated controll equipment stolen from US inventory .

Some satellites have been compromised.

Warning we are no longer responsible for the stolen property or its use, now back to flipper.
 
Which is how you de-fund their ability to wage the Ukraine War...

Wheels inside of wheels inside a hall of mirrors as well!

Sirhr
While true Russia profits with expensive crude and gas , but at 20-30% of federal income and only 6% of GDP its not quite runing on oil

I imagine it was more domestic focus , keeping gasoline cheap and strait of Hormuz open than any Russian vector.

Meanwhile
"The Trump administration has discussed possibly helping Iran access as much as $30 billion to build a civilian-energy-producing nuclear program, easing sanctions, and freeing up billions of dollars in restricted Iranian funds – all part of an intensifying attempt to bring Tehran back to the negotiating table, four sources familiar with the matter said," a fresh Thursday CNN report says.

 
While true Russia profits with expensive crude and gas , but at 20-30% of federal income and only 6% of GDP its not quite runing on oil

I imagine it was more domestic focus , keeping gasoline cheap and strait of Hormuz open than any Russian vector.

Meanwhile
"The Trump administration has discussed possibly helping Iran access as much as $30 billion to build a civilian-energy-producing nuclear program, easing sanctions, and freeing up billions of dollars in restricted Iranian funds – all part of an intensifying attempt to bring Tehran back to the negotiating table, four sources familiar with the matter said," a fresh Thursday CNN report says.


That, too!

Price down at the pump is a big deal!

Sirhr
 
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It seems US-Iran kabuki theatre had plenty of carrots thrown in for Iranians to go along



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Freshly promoted IRGC crew ,i guess they can go on TV and play along with bombing worked.



As for Iranian Nuke ? Just kidding it was just an window of opportunity to attack Iran while its down, before it rebuilt air defenses

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wondering what to believe on this cease fire. Putin refuses one on the point that all it does is allow Ukraine to rearm and strengthen defenses.
supposedly Israel asked for it because they had taken way bigger hit than they admit. Israel lying and manipulating events is not new. Benni is a propaganda master. might Trump have pushed Iran to accept on the QT? Israel will break it when they see an up side. i read Benni is going to trial soon? that will play in in some way.
doesn't seem to have been a big success despite the really great tac AF work. i think Trump wants done with it so a success let's him, back off some.
that is exactly what should happen. he needs to cut off Israel right after he cuts off Ukraine. neither gonna happen.
our debt crisis is not going to do anything but tank us and these ongoing open sores on the economy are making things worse. only good thing is Americans aren't getting killed overseas much anymore. in the cities here? well....
what i see in news is that this war has made both Israel's and Iran's hard line leaders MORE popular. not a thing to cool stuff down.
 
wondering what to believe on this cease fire. Putin refuses one on the point that all it does is allow Ukraine to rearm and strengthen defenses.
supposedly Israel asked for it because they had taken way bigger hit than they admit. Israel lying and manipulating events is not new. Benni is a propaganda master. might Trump have pushed Iran to accept on the QT? Israel will break it when they see an up side. i read Benni is going to trial soon? that will play in in some way.
doesn't seem to have been a big success despite the really great tac AF work. i think Trump wants done with it so a success let's him, back off some.
that is exactly what should happen. he needs to cut off Israel right after he cuts off Ukraine. neither gonna happen.
our debt crisis is not going to do anything but tank us and these ongoing open sores on the economy are making things worse. only good thing is Americans aren't getting killed overseas much anymore. in the cities here? well....
what i see in news is that this war has made both Israel's and Iran's hard line leaders MORE popular. not a thing to cool stuff down.
Of course Ukraine case fire like it was proposed is not favorable to Russia as it would just allow Ukraine a breather and western arms supplies to catch up with the needs.Then it would all kick of again.


This is beyond me why try and get involved in Israeli internal politics to save Bibi ,guy has been avoiding this by going to war for a while now.