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John Travolta is da man!

ArcticLight

ArcticLight

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#1
I just heard on the radio that John Travolta took his 707, loaded it up with MRE's and flew it down to Haiti..

Now THAT's how you do it hollywood...

Always liked him - but now he has my respect.
His quote was something like "It was just sitting there, there's no point in not using it when it can be of help".

I remember laughing when I heard he was cited for flying over NY at 500 feet with it..

He's an accomplished pilot for anyone that was not aware of that!
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#4
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It's nice to be helpful. However, there is no shortage of aircraft to fly to Haiti. There is a shortage of landing slots, and his 707 occupied one which might have been taken by an aircraft with greater capacity.

He might have been more helpful by contributing the cost of the flight in cash. While Scientology might be a more benign religion than the voodoo which is endemic in Haiti, I suspect there are higher priorities for personnel in Haiti than Scientology ministers.

Haitians rebelling against the French in 1791 in a solemn ceremony promised to serve the local gods -- demons in the estimation of the Roman Catholic Church which the rebels repudiated -- for two hundred years if His Satanic Majesty and his demonic legions (including Baron Samedi) would assist in throwing out the French. The revolution was successful.

That deal has now expired. One wonders if the Devil is getting his due in an effort to renew the contract. But I suspect that Scientology is not the answer.
 
#5
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I saw a show where a bunch of bible thumping Christians were passing out bibles to the wounded, poor people down there as well - and I thought that was Ironic, the very god we believe in caused this.

There must be a reason...

Lets leave religion out, he did a good thing
 
#7
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Sorry Lindy LOL - I realize he's in a weird religion but heard he was just landing, unloading and leaving -

Hate it when any religious group has to go to an area and put conditions on their good will....weird eh?
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#8
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I saw a show where a bunch of bible thumping Christians were passing out bibles to the wounded, poor people down there as well - and I thought that was Ironic, the very god we believe in caused this.

There must be a reason...

Lets leave religion out, he did a good thing </div></div>
DOn't place everyone in the same group due to one guy speaking about how God was to blame. Just think of what groups I could place you in by other comments one person has made on this shooting forum. Just becouse we all share the shooting sport doesn't mean that some of the weird comments that have been made here reflect everyone on the hide. Just think people should think about and know that most people didn't agree with Robinson's comments on Haiti.
 
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Good for Travolta.

Stupid comment about the devil calling in his loan.

Somebody's been watching too much Pat Robertson. Talk about <span style="font-weight: bold">WEIRD</span>.
 
#12
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's nice to be helpful. However, there is no shortage of aircraft to fly to Haiti. There is a shortage of landing slots, and his 707 occupied one which might have been taken by an aircraft with greater capacity.

He might have been more helpful by contributing the cost of the flight in cash. While Scientology might be a more benign religion than the voodoo which is endemic in Haiti, I suspect there are higher priorities for personnel in Haiti than Scientology ministers.

Haitians rebelling against the French in 1791 in a solemn ceremony promised to serve the local gods -- demons in the estimation of the Roman Catholic Church which the rebels repudiated -- for two hundred years if His Satanic Majesty and his demonic legions (including Baron Samedi) would assist in throwing out the French. The revolution was successful.

That deal has now expired. One wonders if the Devil is getting his due in an effort to renew the contract. But I suspect that Scientology is not the answer.
</div></div>

There is a hater in every crowd...
He did a good deed, leave it at that. Its not like he stayed for a week.
 
#15
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's nice to be helpful. However, there is no shortage of aircraft to fly to Haiti. There is a shortage of landing slots, and his 707 occupied one which might have been taken by an aircraft with greater capacity.

He might have been more helpful by contributing the cost of the flight in cash. While Scientology might be a more benign religion than the voodoo which is endemic in Haiti, I suspect there are higher priorities for personnel in Haiti than Scientology ministers.

Haitians rebelling against the French in 1791 in a solemn ceremony promised to serve the local gods -- demons in the estimation of the Roman Catholic Church which the rebels repudiated -- for two hundred years if His Satanic Majesty and his demonic legions (including Baron Samedi) would assist in throwing out the French. The revolution was successful.

That deal has now expired. One wonders if the Devil is getting his due in an effort to renew the contract. But I suspect that Scientology is not the answer.
</div></div>


He did more than you , so hows about a nice cup of STFU ??
 
#16
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KIDGLOCK</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's nice to be helpful. However, there is no shortage of aircraft to fly to Haiti. There is a shortage of landing slots, and his 707 occupied one which might have been taken by an aircraft with greater capacity.

He might have been more helpful by contributing the cost of the flight in cash. While Scientology might be a more benign religion than the voodoo which is endemic in Haiti, I suspect there are higher priorities for personnel in Haiti than Scientology ministers.

Haitians rebelling against the French in 1791 in a solemn ceremony promised to serve the local gods -- demons in the estimation of the Roman Catholic Church which the rebels repudiated -- for two hundred years if His Satanic Majesty and his demonic legions (including Baron Samedi) would assist in throwing out the French. The revolution was successful.

That deal has now expired. One wonders if the Devil is getting his due in an effort to renew the contract. But I suspect that Scientology is not the answer.
</div></div>


He did more than you , so hows about a nice cup of STFU ?? </div></div>

First, everyone is entitled to their opinion whether you agree with it or not.

Second, unless you are Lindy's accountant (and since he's married to one I know you are not) how do you know how much he as done?

Third, if this thread is going to degrade into personal attacks over one's opinion, it can go away along with the attackers.

Play nice.
 
#18
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Hey Mike, how bout a nice cup of...
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Lindy makes a valid point. Its also one shared by many, including the liberal media, who made some comments to the same effect: that real estate could have been used by a plane that had more life-saving applications. Even CNN made a comment to the effect that his PR stunt might have cost lives in the long run.
 
#19
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He did this right after Katrina as well. He's a decent, thoughtful man who recently endured a trial few families can withstand. Still he remains gracious and generous.</div></div>

Sounds like he did a good work. Now if he could just learn to act.
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#20
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goldie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He did this right after Katrina as well. He's a decent, thoughtful man who recently endured a trial few families can withstand. Still he remains gracious and generous.</div></div>

Sounds like he did a good work. Now if he could just learn to act.
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LOL I personally think he's a great actor!


I doubt he cost any lives and he did do a good deed...too bad he hauled the Scientology guys along..

I don't view them as a religion, but I don't know enough about it, I view it similiar to the Masons...

Either way, that he took his personal plane down and carried MULTIPLE loads of stuff, think it's a good deed -


You can send all the money you want but when relief orgs spend 60 or 70% of it in "administrative costs" then when do you know it's really helping? This is why I refuse to participate in the United Way thing - I was there in the 90's when they were stealing the money for their high dollar salaries.

JT put money into goods and action, kinda like that, MRE"s go a long way in a disaster zone like that...
 
#21
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">



Either way, that he took his personal plane down and carried This is why I refuse to participate in the United Way thing - I was there in the 90's when they were stealing the money for their high dollar salaries.

JT put money into goods and action, kinda like that, MRE"s go a long way in a disaster zone like that...</div></div>

Definately want to avoid giving to the United Way....Parasites one and all. The Red Cross actually puts about 85% of funds on the ground, and if I were in a disaster area like Haiti or after Katrina I cant think of anything I d rather see than that truck with the big red cross coming toward me. Salvation Army does a lot of good as well. If you want to read a good book about what the Salvation Army does try "The Spiral Road" by Jan de Hartog. Sometimes hard to find and a long read but it will blow your mind. One of the most intense novels I have ever read.
 
#22
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The United Fund lets you designate the place your donation will go to, the Red Cross for example.

If you really want your money to go to the Red Cross, don't do that.

The reason is that the United Fund decides how its money will be distributed.

If you designate your UF donation to go to the Red Cross, the UF will simply reduce the contributions of their general fund by the amount you donate, so that the overall amount distributed to the Red Cross is what <span style="font-style: italic">they</span> determine.

Just give the money directly to the Red Cross.
 
#23
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SingleShot85</div><div class="ubbcode-body">JT is a dip shit, ...</div></div>
How's that?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> ... but even dip shits can do nice things. Many people do nice things, he deserves no extra credit for owning a plane load or MRE's</div></div>
He sure did more than me, and although I'm lacking of crystal ball, I'm pretty sure he did more than you too.
So how about we use the good old way of shut up, or put up the same or more amount, in order to be able to criticize others efforts?
 
#25
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<span style="font-style: italic">in my opinion...</span>

Although JT did actually get off his ass and do something, I believe his transportation of scientology personnel showed he had an ulterior motive.

Also, for those of us that did "do" something and are criticized let us remind you that JT is a multi-millionaire and although his expense may have been great to you or I, his actually out of pocket expense may not have been that much in the context of his net worth. (Plus he loves to fly so I'm sure no one twisted his arm to fly down there too.) Whereas our amounts, albeit much smaller, may have amounted to a larger donation given the context of our ability to give.

So kudos for JT for doing something
and the same kudos for anyone who did something.
 
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Ill jump in here, what the heck,lol..

The difference between Haiti before and after the Earthquake is this:

Everyone is watching now and pretending to care. Life there was too bad to comprehend BEFORE the earthquake. None of the Hollywood morons or people that pretend to "do all they can" did anything before hand(with rare exceptions like hotshotphotography and folks like him).

What determines good character and righteousness is what you do when NO ONE is looking...anyone can ham it up for the cameras where there's a hot spot or disaster, take the opportunity to do alot, and actually do almost nothing in the long run.

I however paid my taxes, so I helped. lol.. I haven't helped on my own for Haiti, as I like to help out local people and things that effect my community.
 
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Thanks for the Mod input, Mike, but I suspect that since this is not Lindy's first rodeo, he knew what was coming when he hit the "submit" button
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As to the topic, I think it is very interesting when any high profile people do something, it is a top news story. Hell, Geraldo just did a piece about how Sean Penn has gained a "new respect" for the 82'nd because of the good they are doing on the ground. Who gives a flying flock? I think George W. and Bill Clinton has it right when they say to give money through a reliable charity. I don't need to know what JT or Brad and Angelina or Sean Penn are doing in Haiti. It's all about PR with the fringe benefit of actually helping a few folks.
 
#30
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I have served on one of the 28 FEMA USAR teams since 1998, and have been deployed to a couple of these goat fucks.

There is little if anything that these publicity seeking idiots do that helps the situation. More often than not they require more resources and time spent to "handle" their charitable donation that is only taken away from those involved in the tragedy in the first place.

What most won't even realize is that the problem was not getting MRE's to Haiti, it was getting the MRE's distributed in Haiti. So in all the effort to drop off the MRE's he took a landing slot that could have been used for a transport that was carrying equipment/teams prepared and trained for more needed operations.

Lots of publicity/politicking going on with the events in Haiti....as usual not much of it had anything to do with helping people.
 
#31
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This is pure speculation.

I wonder if there is a "write-off" envolved with all of the nice things the rich and famous do for society.

All of these people have charities in his/her name and make large contributions to all of these humanitarian groups. I have a little thought this is $$$ deal and not necessarily for a sense of morality. Just a thought.

Give money and don't tell anyone your doing it...now there might be some merit to it.

What have I done for them...not so much.

I did a home visit to a lady I have on probation. She had no heat in her house. I gave her a heater that I had and was not using for her husband and kids. I did not tell anyone. I am telling all of you just to relay an idea.

A person received his/her rewards accordingly. I gues JT has now received his and I have received mine as well.

-Al
 
#32
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CDiPrecision</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ill jump in here, what the heck,lol..

The difference between Haiti before and after the Earthquake is this:

Everyone is watching now and pretending to care. Life there was too bad to comprehend BEFORE the earthquake. None of the Hollywood morons or people that pretend to "do all they can" did anything before hand(with rare exceptions like hotshotphotography and folks like him).

What determines good character and righteousness is what you do when NO ONE is looking...anyone can ham it up for the cameras where there's a hot spot or disaster, take the opportunity to do alot, and actually do almost nothing in the long run.

I however paid my taxes, so I helped. lol.. I haven't helped on my own for Haiti, as I like to help out local people and things that effect my community. </div></div>

<span style="font-size: 26pt"> +1!!!!</span>

I agree JT is a millionaire and it's a small price - he DID say that as well, he said as long as he has the means he would help.
He was VERY humble about it - that's what impressed me
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He WAS apparantly doing the same at Katrina, but nobody covered that - yet they covered his fine when he flew over NYC in his 707 LOL

But yeah, Haiti was a mess before the earthquake.



As for United - You can specify WHERE you want you funds to go but they still deduct administrative costs.


If you want a good book to read about the Salvation Army as well- grab "Breakfast at Sally's" - a homeless guy wrote it - got an autographed copy since he is a friend of my mom...

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cuban Croc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Give money and don't tell anyone your doing it...now there might be some merit to it.


A person received his/her rewards accordingly. I gues JT has now received his and I have received mine as well.


</div></div>

Some carpenter (dont get a swollen head Queequeg) a couple of thousand years ago phrased it this way...."when you give your alms give them in private, dont even let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, and your father in heaven, will see and great will be your reward. But as for those who give in public and get great praise, they have their reward" I dont know much about that "heaven", doubt if Ill ever see it, but hes a Wise man, Ive learned a lot from him.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ewoaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so why didnt they have an earthquake in 1991? (if that's when the contract expired)</div></div>

Better yet, try having an earthquake where there's no fault lines. That would be impressive!
 
#35
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DaveV</div><div class="ubbcode-body">By the way, Mike, it's good to see your name in green
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</div></div>

Why must you turn this thread into a house of lies?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goldie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cuban Croc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Give money and don't tell anyone your doing it...now there might be some merit to it.


A person received his/her rewards accordingly. I gues JT has now received his and I have received mine as well.


</div></div>

Some carpenter (dont get a swollen head Queequeg) a couple of thousand years ago phrased it this way...."when you give your alms give them in private, dont even let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, and your father in heaven, will see and great will be your reward. But as for those who give in public and get great praise, they have their reward" I dont know much about that "heaven", doubt if Ill ever see it, but hes a Wise man, Ive learned a lot from him. </div></div>

One can learn a lot from carpenters!

In retrospect, perhaps a plane load of earth movers, and dump trucks might have been more productive, followed by Carpenters, Masons, roofers, plumbers, electrodes, etc.: theres a lot of work to be done there yet.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">


I doubt he cost any lives and he did do a good deed...too bad he hauled the Scientology guys along..

I don't view them as a religion, but I don't know enough about it, I view it similiar to the Masons...
</div></div>

Organized crime would probably be a closer analogy.
 
#41
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I think gauging the help that other's provide is a dangerous path.
DiCaprio chose to give a Million dollars as did some others.
Clooney chose to admin a Telethon.
Travolta chose to fly in some supplies and ministers from his church and I believe a doctor or two.

This raises awareness as we all talk about it and like a pebble in a pond it grows.

I hope these goodworks survive the negative comments because I know that negative comments are a great reason for folks on the fence to put their wallet back in thier pants.

I thank God that the 82nd airborne and others are there making it easier for folks to act responsibly.

YMMV,
Pete
 
#42
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As soon as I realized this is the same old welfare country I put away my wallet.

I'd rather donate money Liberia, at least I get rad crossdressing militant civilwar videos out of that toilete.
 
#44
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CDiPrecision</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ill jump in here, what the heck,lol..

The difference between Haiti before and after the Earthquake is this:

Everyone is watching now and pretending to care. Life there was too bad to comprehend BEFORE the earthquake. None of the Hollywood morons or people that pretend to "do all they can" did anything before hand(with rare exceptions like hotshotphotography and folks like him).

What determines good character and righteousness is what you do when NO ONE is looking...anyone can ham it up for the cameras where there's a hot spot or disaster, take the opportunity to do alot, and actually do almost nothing in the long run.

I however paid my taxes, so I helped. lol.. I haven't helped on my own for Haiti, as I like to help out local people and things that effect my community.</div></div>


+<span style="font-size: 14pt">1,000,000</span>

Well said.........
 
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