Sidearms & Scatterguns Just tested my Lonewolf barrel for my Glock!

[Vitorum]

I picked up a Lonewolf 9mm ported conversion barrel for my Glock 23. OMG I love it. It's cheaper to shoot and looks sexy as hell. Also added a gripforce beavertail and grip glove for it. Feels nice. Here are some pics. That barrel is very accurated. I'll post some pics of groupings later. But here is my Glock 23.

 

[Vitorum]

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I'm probably going to get a G35 and run the same setup with it.

 

[turbo54]

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I have a couple LW barrels for each of my Glocks - nice product! Their chambers are TIGHT! Make sure your crimp is in spec.

 

[Vitorum]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a couple LW barrels for each of my Glocks - nice product! Their chambers are TIGHT! Make sure your crimp is in spec. </div></div>

What do you mean crimp? Are you refering to the bullet crimp?

 

[turbo54]

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Yes. When you load pistol ammo, you must flare the casemouth to get the bullet started, then you crimp it back down. With LW barrels, it better be right!

 

[Vitorum]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes. When you load pistol ammo, you must flare the casemouth to get the bullet started, then you crimp it back down. With LW barrels, it better be right! </div></div>

Ok yes I understand that, I just wasnt sure if that's what you were referring to. Thanks for the info. I really appreciate it.

 

[desertrat1979]

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Have you done any low light shooting? I only ask because I have heard no definitive answers when it comes to ported barrels and flash on pistols. I know with ammo it can be brand specific, but does a ported barrel and potential for flash blindness in low lighting cause concern?

 

[Vitorum]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: desertrat1979</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have you done any low light shooting? I only ask because I have heard no definitive answers when it comes to ported barrels and flash on pistols. I know with ammo it can be brand specific, but does a ported barrel and potential for flash blindness in low lighting cause concern? </div></div>

I havent actually, but send me a friend request and next time I go shooting I'll let you know what occurs. I heard that the cheaper the ammo the more of a flash you are going to get. Now also keep in mind I only drop in the 9mm barrel when shooting at the range. When I'm using it for self defense the stock .40 barrel is in place.

 

[Sportin Wood]

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You say its cheaper to shoot? How so??

 

[turbo54]

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I've done a bunch of night shooting with various guns/calibers, and I feel the "flash blindness"/loss of night vision is hugely over exaggerated.

Every gun I've ever shot at night belches a fireball. Particularly the magnum types. Anything with blue dot powder creates a ridiculous flash/fireball. The amount of flash is going to be based on powder chemistry, burning speed, barrel length and cartridge efficiency.

Titegroup and Solo1000 are very fast powders and create little flash. 5" barrels allow the powder to more completely burn and have less flash. 9mm is very efficient and flashes less. Revolver always flash a LOT. My Smith 500 engulfs my hands in a ball of fire with any powder - but more so with the slow stuff like H110. It has the 4" barrel and comp ports, but you can't even see the fire come from the comp because it is so overdone by the fire coming from the cylinder gap.

My ported glocks on the other hand give off a noticeable "V" shaped pattern, but without the ports, your eyes are still subject to viewing a bright flash, so I ask whats the difference?

Eyes/Vision vary widely from one person to another, so YMMV, but I can say muzzle flash has little affect on my night vision, and is not affected more by porting.

 

[turbo54]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StanwoodSpartan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You say its cheaper to shoot? How so?? </div></div>

The OEM Glock barrels are rifled in such a way that you MUST use jacketed bullets, or lead will smear inside the barrel. Aftermarket barrels have standard rifling and straight lead bullets work fine. They are much cheaper.

 

[Vitorum]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StanwoodSpartan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You say its cheaper to shoot? How so?? </div></div>

It's a Glock 23 which is chambered in .40. But I dropped a 9mm ported conversion barrel in it. You have to also buy the 9mm mag and recoil spring and your good to go. Very easy to swap. Takes less than a min.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StanwoodSpartan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You say its cheaper to shoot? How so?? </div></div>

The OEM Glock barrels are rifled in such a way that you MUST use jacketed bullets, or lead will smear inside the barrel. Aftermarket barrels have standard rifling and straight lead bullets work fine. They are much cheaper. </div></div>

Lonewolf barrels are match-grade rifling.

 

[Downzero]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StanwoodSpartan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You say its cheaper to shoot? How so?? </div></div>

The OEM Glock barrels are rifled in such a way that you MUST use jacketed bullets, or lead will smear inside the barrel. Aftermarket barrels have standard rifling and straight lead bullets work fine. They are much cheaper. </div></div>

Bullshit.

I'd be far less likely to shoot lead through a ported barrel than a polygonal rifled one.

 

[turbo54]

Re: Just tested my Lonewolf barrel for my Glock!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StanwoodSpartan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You say its cheaper to shoot? How so?? </div></div>

The OEM Glock barrels are rifled in such a way that you MUST use jacketed bullets, or lead will smear inside the barrel. Aftermarket barrels have standard rifling and straight lead bullets work fine. They are much cheaper. </div></div>

Bullshit.

I'd be far less likely to shoot lead through a ported barrel than a polygonal rifled one. </div></div>

Bullshit yourself.

I forgot the OP's barrel was ported, and you're right that lead through a ported barrel is not well-advised.

However, it is EQUALLY ill-advised to run lead through a polygonal barrel. I've tried it a couple times in different calibers, and it will smear lead all over the rifling in less than 5 rounds.

 

[Vitorum]

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I only shoot FMJ through it. I just had hallow points sitting there for show of 9mm vs .40. Now I carry Hallow point .40s in my oem glock barrel.

 

[Vitorum]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've done a bunch of night shooting with various guns/calibers, and I feel the "flash blindness"/loss of night vision is hugely over exaggerated.

Every gun I've ever shot at night belches a fireball. Particularly the magnum types. Anything with blue dot powder creates a ridiculous flash/fireball. The amount of flash is going to be based on powder chemistry, burning speed, barrel length and cartridge efficiency.

Titegroup and Solo1000 are very fast powders and create little flash. 5" barrels allow the powder to more completely burn and have less flash. 9mm is very efficient and flashes less. Revolver always flash a LOT. My Smith 500 engulfs my hands in a ball of fire with any powder - but more so with the slow stuff like H110. It has the 4" barrel and comp ports, but you can't even see the fire come from the comp because it is so overdone by the fire coming from the cylinder gap.

My ported glocks on the other hand give off a noticeable "V" shaped pattern, but without the ports, your eyes are still subject to viewing a bright flash, so I ask whats the difference?

Eyes/Vision vary widely from one person to another, so YMMV, but I can say muzzle flash has little affect on my night vision, and is not affected more by porting. </div></div>

+1 ^

 

[desertrat1979]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StanwoodSpartan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You say its cheaper to shoot? How so??</div></div>

9mm is cheaper to shoot than .40?

 

[nw911guy]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've done a bunch of night shooting with various guns/calibers, and I feel the "flash blindness"/loss of night vision is hugely over exaggerated.

Every gun I've ever shot at night belches a fireball. Particularly the magnum types. Anything with blue dot powder creates a ridiculous flash/fireball. The amount of flash is going to be based on powder chemistry, burning speed, barrel length and cartridge efficiency.

Titegroup and Solo1000 are very fast powders and create little flash. 5" barrels allow the powder to more completely burn and have less flash. 9mm is very efficient and flashes less. Revolver always flash a LOT. My Smith 500 engulfs my hands in a ball of fire with any powder - but more so with the slow stuff like H110. It has the 4" barrel and comp ports, but you can't even see the fire come from the comp because it is so overdone by the fire coming from the cylinder gap.

My ported glocks on the other hand give off a noticeable "V" shaped pattern, but without the ports, your eyes are still subject to viewing a bright flash, so I ask whats the difference?

Eyes/Vision vary widely from one person to another, so YMMV, but I can say muzzle flash has little affect on my night vision, and is not affected more by porting.</div></div>

You haven't shot enough different guns with enough different ammo. I can tell you for a FACT that a 5" Government model with 230grain Remington Golden Saber throws a couple sparks. Contrast that with something like some of the old Triton 135gr HPs out of an H&K USP40c that had so much muzzle flash I couldn't even see the back of the gun afterwards, say nothing of the sights. These experiments were both conducted at night. Not trying to be a dick, just saying.

 

[turbo54]

Re: Just tested my Lonewolf barrel for my Glock!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nw1911guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've done a bunch of night shooting with various guns/calibers, and I feel the "flash blindness"/loss of night vision is hugely over exaggerated.

Every gun I've ever shot at night belches a fireball. Particularly the magnum types. Anything with blue dot powder creates a ridiculous flash/fireball. The amount of flash is going to be based on powder chemistry, burning speed, barrel length and cartridge efficiency.

Titegroup and Solo1000 are very fast powders and create little flash. 5" barrels allow the powder to more completely burn and have less flash. 9mm is very efficient and flashes less. Revolver always flash a LOT. My Smith 500 engulfs my hands in a ball of fire with any powder - but more so with the slow stuff like H110. It has the 4" barrel and comp ports, but you can't even see the fire come from the comp because it is so overdone by the fire coming from the cylinder gap.

My ported glocks on the other hand give off a noticeable "V" shaped pattern, but without the ports, your eyes are still subject to viewing a bright flash, so I ask whats the difference?

Eyes/Vision vary widely from one person to another, so YMMV, but I can say muzzle flash has little affect on my night vision, and is not affected more by porting.</div></div>


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You haven't shot enough different guns with enough different ammo. I can tell you for a FACT that a 5" Government model with 230grain Remington Golden Saber throws a couple sparks. Contrast that with something like some of the old Triton 135gr HPs out of an H&K USP40c that had so much muzzle flash I couldn't even see the back of the gun afterwards, say nothing of the sights. These experiments were both conducted at night. Not trying to be a dick, just saying.

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If 42gr H110 under a 350gr XTP through a comped 4" Smith 500 doesnt produce a flash - I don't know what does.

Again, eyes and vision vary widely from one person to another. Maybe I'm younger than you, maybe I eat more carrots, who knows.

 

[turbo54]

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Another thought: They say it takes almost a full hour for eyes to adjust to darkness. I can't say I've ever sat in total darkness for an hour, touched off a round, then checked the effect on my night vision.

You're probably right, if I did that, my vision might be hurt more than I realize. However, I still contend that regardless of porting, your eyes are still subject to a bright flash - so I don't see what the difference is.

 

[Vitorum]

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Just out of curiosity guys...um...why does anyone care? Are you guys really shooting at night? If so what in the world are you shooting at that you can actually see? lol. But if that's what you enjoy, to each his own. Carry on the conversation.

 

[desertrat1979]

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There is logic and reasoning to the question. Its not whether he goes to range at night, But for a carry weapon, in a defensive situation, you dont get to pick the conditions you shoot. For the sme reason you test various ammo makes prior to choosing, you want to know will it work? Is it accurate? Will using this to protect myself in a dimly lit area give me flash blindness, causing me to lose focus, and possibly be disabling myself long enough to remain a victim. Whish brings us to the real question. Is it a practical application to be used where your life may depennd on it? Or, stick with stock.

In fact I think the OP stated that this is a range setup, and he goes back to the .40 barrel for when he carries. I am sure for his own resons.

 

[300WSM]

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any kick on that? I bet it's like shooting a 22lr!

 

[81Z4ME]

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You can get 9mm ammo at WalMart for $12 to #14 a box/50 rounds while the .40 S&W ammo is $16 to $18 a box/50 rounds.

I tried two different brands of "plated" bullets in my M31 and even at 10 to 12 yds the bullets are tumbling (funny looking holes in the target that aren't round = bullets no flying straight and true). Its the way the barrels are made/rifled. I'm loading Hornady 124 HPs now for the Glock M31. Those same plated 124 HPs work just fine in my Browning BDM.

Right now I'm torn between a Lone Wolf barrel for the M31 or a .22 conversion kit for it. I'll probably go with the .22 conversion kit first, then the Lone Wolf barrel later (might have to be in .40 S&W as I don't know if they make one in .357 SIG or not.)