KREIGER Barrels VS HART Barrels
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Re: KREIGER Barrels VS HART Barrels
They are both great quality barrels and there are many other barrel makers as well that produce great barrels like Shilen,Rock creek and the list goes on. I personaly believe the person chambering and crowning the barrel will be more of a factor than brand name.
But if I had to choose between the two it would be Kreiger.
They are both great quality barrels and there are many other barrel makers as well that produce great barrels like Shilen,Rock creek and the list goes on. I personaly believe the person chambering and crowning the barrel will be more of a factor than brand name.
But if I had to choose between the two it would be Kreiger.
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Kreiger is cut rifled and Hart is not. Both barrels are excellent and I have owned both and still have Kreigers. I liked the cut rifling but that is a personl thing and nothing to do with accuacy.
The only other thing I would add is to make sure you get a bench rest or top of the line barrel. Some companies like Shilen offer different grades of barrels. Buy the best grade you can and find a good smith.
Kreiger is cut rifled and Hart is not. Both barrels are excellent and I have owned both and still have Kreigers. I liked the cut rifling but that is a personl thing and nothing to do with accuacy.
The only other thing I would add is to make sure you get a bench rest or top of the line barrel. Some companies like Shilen offer different grades of barrels. Buy the best grade you can and find a good smith.
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I'll add that some smith's prefer to work with a specific brand of barrel, be it a business partnership or lots of dealings over the years or whatever. So your choice of smith may have a preferred choice of barrel, although most will work with any barrel if you have a strong preference. I'm having 2 barrels done at the moment, one's a Bartlein and one's a Broughton, I just went with what the smith's told me they had.
I'll add that some smith's prefer to work with a specific brand of barrel, be it a business partnership or lots of dealings over the years or whatever. So your choice of smith may have a preferred choice of barrel, although most will work with any barrel if you have a strong preference. I'm having 2 barrels done at the moment, one's a Bartlein and one's a Broughton, I just went with what the smith's told me they had.
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Hart gets my vote. Every barrel they produce is held to the same tolerances. There are no 2nd rates. Their gunsmith shop is tops too!
Hart gets my vote. Every barrel they produce is held to the same tolerances. There are no 2nd rates. Their gunsmith shop is tops too!
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Personally from the two I'd take the Kreiger every time, but thats just me.
Personally from the two I'd take the Kreiger every time, but thats just me.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's not about the barrel. </div></div>
A quality barrel is one of the key factors in a accurate rifle, although it needs to be properly installed to work the way intended.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's not about the barrel. </div></div>
A quality barrel is one of the key factors in a accurate rifle, although it needs to be properly installed to work the way intended.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nortex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's not about the barrel. </div></div>A quality barrel is one of the key factors in a accurate rifle, although it needs to be properly installed to work the way intended. </div></div>You missed the point: There are many good barrel makers.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nortex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's not about the barrel. </div></div>A quality barrel is one of the key factors in a accurate rifle, although it needs to be properly installed to work the way intended. </div></div>You missed the point: There are many good barrel makers.
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I own both brands in 6mm and 308 rifles, no difference they're both excellent choices, the difference is more about how they are fitted
I own both brands in 6mm and 308 rifles, no difference they're both excellent choices, the difference is more about how they are fitted
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hart gets my vote. Every barrel they produce is held to the same tolerances. There are no 2nd rates. Their gunsmith shop is tops too!</div></div> Actually the same is true for Krieger barrels - just one level of quality. They offer Criterion barrels which are button rifled, but I believe that's considered a separate company which is owned by Krieger.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hart gets my vote. Every barrel they produce is held to the same tolerances. There are no 2nd rates. Their gunsmith shop is tops too!</div></div> Actually the same is true for Krieger barrels - just one level of quality. They offer Criterion barrels which are button rifled, but I believe that's considered a separate company which is owned by Krieger.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's no difference between how you fit the two: A barrel is a barrel.</div></div>
I think he meant that at this level it is more important that the chambering and installation be done properly than which barrel maker you pick.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's no difference between how you fit the two: A barrel is a barrel.</div></div>
I think he meant that at this level it is more important that the chambering and installation be done properly than which barrel maker you pick.
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I think he meant that at this level it is more important that the chambering and installation be done properly than which barrel maker you pick. [/quote]
Exactly! if you don't know what your doing it's easy to screw up a barrel that would otherwise shoot perfectly well
I think he meant that at this level it is more important that the chambering and installation be done properly than which barrel maker you pick. [/quote]
Exactly! if you don't know what your doing it's easy to screw up a barrel that would otherwise shoot perfectly well
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CNC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hart gets my vote. Every barrel they produce is held to the same tolerances. There are no 2nd rates. Their gunsmith shop is tops too!</div></div> Actually the same is true for Krieger barrels - just one level of quality. They offer Criterion barrels which are button rifled, but I believe that's considered a separate company which is owned by Krieger. </div></div>
I have a Hart on a custom build 22/250 and it is an awesome setup but I also just built a custom 260 with a Criterion barrel and it shoots great as well and it is button rifled. A excellent barrel for the money and had mine in two weeks.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CNC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hart gets my vote. Every barrel they produce is held to the same tolerances. There are no 2nd rates. Their gunsmith shop is tops too!</div></div> Actually the same is true for Krieger barrels - just one level of quality. They offer Criterion barrels which are button rifled, but I believe that's considered a separate company which is owned by Krieger. </div></div>
I have a Hart on a custom build 22/250 and it is an awesome setup but I also just built a custom 260 with a Criterion barrel and it shoots great as well and it is button rifled. A excellent barrel for the money and had mine in two weeks.
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everybody can make a good barrel, not everybody makes one consistantly
THAT is the key
everybody can make a good barrel, not everybody makes one consistantly
THAT is the key
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maladat</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's no difference between how you fit the two: A barrel is a barrel.</div></div>
I think he meant that at this level it is more important that the chambering and installation be done properly than which barrel maker you pick. </div></div>
This and the fact that saying "A barrel is a barrel" is a very bold statement, in this case it can be considered true but its not always this way.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maladat</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's no difference between how you fit the two: A barrel is a barrel.</div></div>
I think he meant that at this level it is more important that the chambering and installation be done properly than which barrel maker you pick. </div></div>
This and the fact that saying "A barrel is a barrel" is a very bold statement, in this case it can be considered true but its not always this way.
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I have to agree with the statement that a barrel is a barrel, but with a qualification. I agree to the extent that when you are talking about the likes of Krieger, Hart and similarly classed barrels, it's more about personal preference and possibly availability than which one is better.
I put a Krieger on my rifle.
I have to agree with the statement that a barrel is a barrel, but with a qualification. I agree to the extent that when you are talking about the likes of Krieger, Hart and similarly classed barrels, it's more about personal preference and possibly availability than which one is better.
I put a Krieger on my rifle.
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I read somewhere that cut rifling was the best there is and button rifling bringing up a close second.
I read somewhere that cut rifling was the best there is and button rifling bringing up a close second.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bub308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are both great quality barrels and there are many other barrel makers as well that produce great barrels like Shilen,Rock creek and the list goes on. I personaly believe the person chambering and crowning the barrel will be more of a factor than brand name.
But if I had to choose between the two it would be Kreiger. </div></div>
What he said...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bub308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are both great quality barrels and there are many other barrel makers as well that produce great barrels like Shilen,Rock creek and the list goes on. I personaly believe the person chambering and crowning the barrel will be more of a factor than brand name.
But if I had to choose between the two it would be Kreiger. </div></div>
What he said...
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The old cut rifling vs. button rifling debate doesn't seem to be have resolution in the records though. Hart Barrels virtually owned all of the IBS records until recent years, as others have caught up. A quick look into last years results shows both button and cut rifling winners. Quality is quality. No sense debating a Kreiger vs. Hart. Both are well established top grade barrels. All other things being equal, the primary differentiator would be the shooter. Which barrel to chose? The one with fastest availability.
The old cut rifling vs. button rifling debate doesn't seem to be have resolution in the records though. Hart Barrels virtually owned all of the IBS records until recent years, as others have caught up. A quick look into last years results shows both button and cut rifling winners. Quality is quality. No sense debating a Kreiger vs. Hart. Both are well established top grade barrels. All other things being equal, the primary differentiator would be the shooter. Which barrel to chose? The one with fastest availability.
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I've had a whole bunch of both on match, varmint and deer rifles and never had a complaint about either. As long as you pick the right person to fit and chamber your barrel it's pick'em.
I've had a whole bunch of both on match, varmint and deer rifles and never had a complaint about either. As long as you pick the right person to fit and chamber your barrel it's pick'em.
