Rifle Scopes lap or don't lap nightforce rings?
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Re: lap or don't lap nightforce rings?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aojones</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No need they are precision already, waste of time IMO </div></div>
I don't think its a waste of time.
Tolerances can and do stack up between the rings bases and receiver.
Suck a perfectly straight base down to a Remington receiver (likely far from straight) and the base will distort to follow the receiver. Slap your rings on top of that setup and expect your $2,000.00 scope to do the same....
Nightforce and S&B scopes can take just about anything, but put one under strain and you can create misery...Not to mention putting strain on your action possibly creating its own set of issues.
Not that big of a deal in the big picture.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aojones</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No need they are precision already, waste of time IMO </div></div>
I don't think its a waste of time.
Tolerances can and do stack up between the rings bases and receiver.
Suck a perfectly straight base down to a Remington receiver (likely far from straight) and the base will distort to follow the receiver. Slap your rings on top of that setup and expect your $2,000.00 scope to do the same....
Nightforce and S&B scopes can take just about anything, but put one under strain and you can create misery...Not to mention putting strain on your action possibly creating its own set of issues.
Not that big of a deal in the big picture.
Re: lap or don't lap nightforce rings?
In the manual for the NF scopes it says "do not lap Nightforce rings"
In the manual for the NF scopes it says "do not lap Nightforce rings"
Re: lap or don't lap nightforce rings?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ultraman550</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In the manual for the NF scopes it says "do not lap Nightforce rings" </div></div>
Here is your answer!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ultraman550</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In the manual for the NF scopes it says "do not lap Nightforce rings" </div></div>
Here is your answer!!
Re: lap or don't lap nightforce rings?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jtv3062</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bed the scope base the make sure the base is straight. Your rings will be straight. </div></div>
BINGO......don't try to make the rings align because another component is not installed properly.
NF rings do not require lapping when installing a NF scope in them. Other scope bodies may have variations in the dimensions, and for those I cannot account.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jtv3062</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bed the scope base the make sure the base is straight. Your rings will be straight. </div></div>
BINGO......don't try to make the rings align because another component is not installed properly.
NF rings do not require lapping when installing a NF scope in them. Other scope bodies may have variations in the dimensions, and for those I cannot account.
Re: lap or don't lap nightforce rings?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: X-fan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Suck a perfectly straight base down to a Remington receiver (likely far from straight) and the base will distort to follow the receiver. </div></div>
How 'bout we start off with proper base mounting procedures (bedding or lapping) instead of dicking around with the rings to compensate?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: X-fan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Suck a perfectly straight base down to a Remington receiver (likely far from straight) and the base will distort to follow the receiver. </div></div>
How 'bout we start off with proper base mounting procedures (bedding or lapping) instead of dicking around with the rings to compensate?
Re: lap or don't lap nightforce rings?
as long as the action is straight and the base is quality, you're good
bed your quality base and you're good
as long as the action is straight and the base is quality, you're good
bed your quality base and you're good
Re: lap or don't lap nightforce rings?
Do not lap your rings, as per the instructions. Also, do not fix something that isn't broken. Before you go and bed your scope base, make sure it needs it first, IMO.
Do not lap your rings, as per the instructions. Also, do not fix something that isn't broken. Before you go and bed your scope base, make sure it needs it first, IMO.
Re: lap or don't lap nightforce rings?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Eric Bryant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: X-fan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Suck a perfectly straight base down to a Remington receiver (likely far from straight) and the base will distort to follow the receiver. </div></div>
How 'bout we start off with proper base mounting procedures (bedding or lapping) instead of dicking around with the rings to compensate? </div></div>
I'm not Bubba...What in the above post made you think I don't fully understand the moving pieces involved here?
My gunsmith beds the bases (as required) and does a perfect job (I don't wrench my gear).
What you have to ask yourself is how many guys know to do that...Or do they just bolt the bases down?
Even with the base done right my smith says he still occasionally finds hotspots....of course he is looking for that sort of thing.
Why don't you ask GA Precision or someone like that what they do?
I guarantee George never puts down a scope hoping the manufacture got the tolerances right. I'm willing to bet the most junior guy at GAP checks and knows its perfect...Then installs the scope.
I am certainly not suggesting you need to remove metal, just check to make sure its right.
If you don't take the time to check you don't know.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Eric Bryant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: X-fan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Suck a perfectly straight base down to a Remington receiver (likely far from straight) and the base will distort to follow the receiver. </div></div>
How 'bout we start off with proper base mounting procedures (bedding or lapping) instead of dicking around with the rings to compensate? </div></div>
I'm not Bubba...What in the above post made you think I don't fully understand the moving pieces involved here?
My gunsmith beds the bases (as required) and does a perfect job (I don't wrench my gear).
What you have to ask yourself is how many guys know to do that...Or do they just bolt the bases down?
Even with the base done right my smith says he still occasionally finds hotspots....of course he is looking for that sort of thing.
Why don't you ask GA Precision or someone like that what they do?
I guarantee George never puts down a scope hoping the manufacture got the tolerances right. I'm willing to bet the most junior guy at GAP checks and knows its perfect...Then installs the scope.
I am certainly not suggesting you need to remove metal, just check to make sure its right.
If you don't take the time to check you don't know.
Re: lap or don't lap nightforce rings?
Pretty much a "nono" if you have the ultralite's w/ the hardcoat anodization.
Pretty much a "nono" if you have the ultralite's w/ the hardcoat anodization.
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