What can any of you guys tell me about the Legion Sobol. I'm familiar with the Biathlon 70-2 so I more concerned with the fit and finish of the Sobol as I've never held one. They are basically double the price of the BB 70-2 and just wondering is it worth it considering I'll be buying one sight unseen.
Legion Sobol
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Re: Legion Sobol
They are very nice rifles...hopefully AOM will join in to answer your question as he owns a few of them I think.
They are very nice rifles...hopefully AOM will join in to answer your question as he owns a few of them I think.
Re: Legion Sobol
If it was me , I would not bother with the Sobol , and YES I have owned one ( not the legion , custom ) , and I think the Basic or the Bi 2KO is much better .
They both have the same action , BUT the Receiver are different , less Receiver on the Sobol actually supporting the barrel , so it has a shorter tunion lenght , I think the Basic & the Bi 2KO have the longer tunion , just like the target versions .
From memory , they use the rear iron sight as a tie down point ( Sobol , the receiver tapers shorter towards the barrel ), ie has a screw that goes thru the stock .
If you are after accuracy , go for the rifles that have the longer receiver that better supports the barrel .
I had a std Sobol , sold IT , know have the basic & the Bi 2KO , hope that answers your Q's .
The Legion shop , just , basically polishes & blues the rifles for Izhmash on a semi custom basis .
As to worth double the cost , I would say NO .
Later Chris
If it was me , I would not bother with the Sobol , and YES I have owned one ( not the legion , custom ) , and I think the Basic or the Bi 2KO is much better .
They both have the same action , BUT the Receiver are different , less Receiver on the Sobol actually supporting the barrel , so it has a shorter tunion lenght , I think the Basic & the Bi 2KO have the longer tunion , just like the target versions .
From memory , they use the rear iron sight as a tie down point ( Sobol , the receiver tapers shorter towards the barrel ), ie has a screw that goes thru the stock .
If you are after accuracy , go for the rifles that have the longer receiver that better supports the barrel .
I had a std Sobol , sold IT , know have the basic & the Bi 2KO , hope that answers your Q's .
The Legion shop , just , basically polishes & blues the rifles for Izhmash on a semi custom basis .
As to worth double the cost , I would say NO .
Later Chris
Re: Legion Sobol
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RDW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are very nice rifles...hopefully AOM will join in to answer your question as he owns
a few of them I think. </div></div>
I own several RU .22lr rifles.
My 1st Legion Sobol
My 2nd Legion Sobol
My 3rd Legion Sobol
My Larsen Recruit Rifle
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RDW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are very nice rifles...hopefully AOM will join in to answer your question as he owns
a few of them I think. </div></div>
I own several RU .22lr rifles.
My 1st Legion Sobol
My 2nd Legion Sobol
My 3rd Legion Sobol
My Larsen Recruit Rifle
Re: Legion Sobol
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChrisF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Legion shop , just , basically polishes & blues the rifles for Izhmash on a semi custom basis.
As to worth double the cost , I would say NO....</div></div>
Izhmash quality control <span style="color: #FF0000">test fires barreled actions</span> for function and accuracy.
In this way the demonstrated accuracy of each barreled action is known to the factory.
And, they are graded as such - factory target group size is posted on the outside of the each rifle box.
The Izhmash Sobol barreled actions displaying a propensity for better accuracy are set aside.
Then, shunted to Legion where they are dressed-up and priced accordingly.
Yes, they began as ordinary Sobols.
However, through a process of selection ... the more than ordinary are transformed into the extraordinary.
The worth of a <span style="color: #6633FF">Legion Sobol</span> ... is in the <span style="color: #009900">eye of the beholder</span> .
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChrisF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Legion shop , just , basically polishes & blues the rifles for Izhmash on a semi custom basis.
As to worth double the cost , I would say NO....</div></div>
Izhmash quality control <span style="color: #FF0000">test fires barreled actions</span> for function and accuracy.
In this way the demonstrated accuracy of each barreled action is known to the factory.
And, they are graded as such - factory target group size is posted on the outside of the each rifle box.
The Izhmash Sobol barreled actions displaying a propensity for better accuracy are set aside.
Then, shunted to Legion where they are dressed-up and priced accordingly.
Yes, they began as ordinary Sobols.
However, through a process of selection ... the more than ordinary are transformed into the extraordinary.
The worth of a <span style="color: #6633FF">Legion Sobol</span> ... is in the <span style="color: #009900">eye of the beholder</span> .
Re: Legion Sobol
I played with one this last weekend.
It's fantastic. The wooodwork is beut and the working of the bolt is crazy fast.
I want one.
I played with one this last weekend.
It's fantastic. The wooodwork is beut and the working of the bolt is crazy fast.
I want one.
Re: Legion Sobol
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChrisF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They both have the same action , BUT the Receiver are different , less Receiver on the Sobol actually supporting the barrel ,
so it has a shorter tunion lenght , I think the Basic & the Bi 2KO have the longer tunion , just like the target versions .
From memory , they use the rear iron sight as a tie down point ( Sobol , the receiver tapers shorter towards the barrel ), ie has a screw that goes thru the stock .
If you are after accuracy , go for the rifles that have the longer receiver that better supports the barrel .</div></div>
<span style="font-style: italic">BIATHLON RECEIVER DIFFERENCES</span>
<span style="color: darkgreen">Legion Sobol Receiver</span>
<span style="color: sienna">Larsen Recruit Receiver</span> (Izhmash 7-3)
<span style="font-style: italic">Note the differences:
The front of the <span style="color: darkgreen">Sobol </span>receiver is tapered with sporter countour barrel.</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">The front of the <span style="color: purple">Larsen Recruit</span> receiver is not tapered with straight taper medium-mass bull barrel. </span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChrisF</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They both have the same action , BUT the Receiver are different , less Receiver on the Sobol actually supporting the barrel ,
so it has a shorter tunion lenght , I think the Basic & the Bi 2KO have the longer tunion , just like the target versions .
From memory , they use the rear iron sight as a tie down point ( Sobol , the receiver tapers shorter towards the barrel ), ie has a screw that goes thru the stock .
If you are after accuracy , go for the rifles that have the longer receiver that better supports the barrel .</div></div>
<span style="font-style: italic">BIATHLON RECEIVER DIFFERENCES</span>
<span style="color: darkgreen">Legion Sobol Receiver</span>
<span style="color: sienna">Larsen Recruit Receiver</span> (Izhmash 7-3)
<span style="font-style: italic">Note the differences:
The front of the <span style="color: darkgreen">Sobol </span>receiver is tapered with sporter countour barrel.</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">The front of the <span style="color: purple">Larsen Recruit</span> receiver is not tapered with straight taper medium-mass bull barrel. </span>
