Sidearms & Scatterguns Les Baer UMCPC?

[theriddler]

Does anyone here have experience with or know someone who has used the Les Baer Ultimate Master Combat Pistol Compensated? I was chatting with my FFL and he reccommended Les Baer to me for a solid pistol and i keep coming back to the UMCPC.

I cant seem to find any reviews online.

Any help would be appreciated

 

[kimberseries1]

Re: Les Baer UMCPC?

You probably can't go wrong with ANY Les Baer. They're built <span style="font-style: italic">very</span> tight though, you'll need a non-marring bushing wrench for sure.


And they don't loosen up much for 2000 rds or so.

 

[Sgt. 0811]

Re: Les Baer UMCPC?

Wow, only 8 results on google.

Don't know about that gun, I've fired Les Baers before, I like them. I think they are high quality guns. They don't blow my skirt up but that's more of a personal preference thing. Well built, as above stated, tight as a drum.

 

[theriddler]

Re: Les Baer UMCPC?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt. 0811</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow, only 8 results on google.

Don't know about that gun, I've fired Les Baers before, I like them. I think they are high quality guns. They don't blow my skirt up but that's more of a personal preference thing. Well built, as above stated, tight as a drum. </div></div>

yeah i tried google'n it and hardly anything..

Thanks for the info. What is it about the Les Baers that "dont blow your skirt up"?

 

[kimberseries1]

Re: Les Baer UMCPC?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Semmens</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt. 0811</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow, only 8 results on google.

Don't know about that gun, I've fired Les Baers before, I like them. I think they are high quality guns. They don't blow my skirt up but that's more of a personal preference thing. Well built, as above stated, tight as a drum. </div></div>

yeah i tried google'n it and hardly anything..

Thanks for the info. What is it about the Les Baers that "dont blow your skirt up"? </div></div>

I can't speak for Sgt., but for most it's the finishing touches. People buy Baers because they flat out drive tacks. Some models are geared toward comps. like the heavy monolith(solid extended dustcover). All come std. guaranteed 3" group at 50 yrds, but for an extra $150, they'll guarantee 1 1/2" group at 50 yrds. They also are just plain jane 1911's. Blued, Chromed, T-Chromed, Stainless. They mill all their own parts from forgings I believe. There may be 1 part that Les Baer didn't make themselves. Les also builds them HIS way. You won't get him to budge much for any deviation from the way HE builds 'em.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Wilson Combat</span> puts the finer finishing touches like flush reverse crown bbl, ball end cuts, beveled slide stop hole, firing pin stop checkering, slide stop checkering, top of slide lines/checkering, etc., etc. On top of that, they have some finishes that are fantastic to look at, and many owners probably display/fondle more than shoot. Wilson makes most if not all of their parts too, just flashier or fancier or more refined with TONS of options. Wilson will build more to your specs.

Can't speak for <span style="font-weight: bold">Ed Brown</span>, not familiar but they are great as well.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Nighthawk</span> is basically Wilson Combat in a different form. Bill's ex-wife and probably some of Bill's ex-staff, and they make one heck of a 1911 as well.

I would be hard pressed to elevate one of these over another. It comes down to what do you want your semi-custom/custom 1911 to look like. All will shoot better than just about any shooter out there. Most will have 4-6 month wait times, unless you buy from someone's inventory.

 

[lionsden]

Re: Les Baer UMCPC?

Semmens,

I should have my LB TRS 1.5" gun by next week, got the call last night it was complete, 4 weeks early(16 weeks). I will give you a range report with hopefully some "dirty" pics of her.

KS1 gave a nice accurate rundown of the companies, however the price for the 1.5" is $295 additional. It may have once been only $150. Its a debatable service and many say the guns will all shoot damn near the same. You have to remember the guarantee is at 50 yards. I cant shoot anywhere near that well however I got a pretty nice deal on it, besides whats $295 when the gun cost $1900? Is peice of mind worth it? Thats for you to decide.

I will recommend if you decide to purchase give Crazy John over at 1911 heaven a shout. He has the best prices I could find by a wide margin and typically over 1000 guns in stock. Not to mention hes a hell of guy and is LB's largest distributer.

Alright sorry for the long winded post but Im just excited to get my gun. Oh yeah for your original post, the ultimate master along with SRP are basically Les's top of the line guns and the UM is a competition ready pistol. I will have one in the next couple years, it along along with a Sako TRG are on the short list for sure!

Steve

 

[theriddler]

Re: Les Baer UMCPC?

Thanks guys for the info, Im looking for one thats made more for competitions.

I also have a TRG waiting at home for me that i just ordered. I was looking at Wilson and Nighthawk and they are both a bit more expensive than Les Baer. The looks dont mean as much to me as how it shoots. It could be painted pink tie die and as long as i shot better than everyone else id be happy

And plus, if i dont like the finish, i could always send it in to get cherakoted or something.

Let me know how the range report is. I wont be able to see pictures for another week and a half though but can post than anyway and i will check when i get back to the US

 

[escopeta]

Re: Les Baer UMCPC?

Will let you know as I just bought one. Have had a lot of 1911's including a Baer I did not like due to all the sharp edges. previous Baer did not shoot any better at 7yds as my SIG C3, my standard. Have tried the NightHawk GRP, and although a very expensive piece and nice, I could not shoot it better or easier than my C3. Still searching for my best 1911.
For rifle, easy, my Tango 51.