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Liberals are buying guns.

NPR was basically recruiting for Marxist paramilitary organizations.

NPR is gospel for liberals.

This is not hippy BS from the 60’s and 70’s.

The left is pushing for terrorism and guerilla warfare and they are buying out gun stores across the country.
 
Nope they'll vote straight D because in their feeble minds a democrat government will fix all the problems and guns won't be needed then

That's how they "think"
Well I have to admit there is another liberal neighbor on my street who falls into that. We also had a couple of brief discussions when rona started to become the talk of the day, but he cooled off quickly and dropped it not a peep since.
 
This is what happens when the fence-sitters decide to choose one side over another. There will be no middle ground with any future festivities. There will be very few that won’t walk into the abyss just because everyone is doing it.

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as I understand it, and it depends on your source, that currently about 37% of the population own at least one firearm... it was as high as 47% in 1990 according to the source I looked at that seems the most accurate... not sure what the difference is about, but could have to do with the definition of population at the time of the research... note, that population does not reflect legal or illegal population
 
While we're busy looking down our noses at all those new gun owners, note that many of them are potential "swing voters" and recruiting a few of them over to our side by November might provide a substantial benefit in a close election. Just something to think about if you happen to come across a newbie at the shop or range.
 
as I understand it, and it depends on your source, that currently about 37% of the population own at least one firearm... it was as high as 47% in 1990 according to the source I looked at that seems the most accurate... not sure what the difference is about, but could have to do with the definition of population at the time of the research... note, that population does not reflect legal or illegal population

Generally speaking, gun ownership has indeed become more concentrated - an ever-larger number of firearms in the hands of a slowing shrinking proportion of the population.

In terms of generating popular support for the 2nd amendment, a broader population of gun owners can be extremely helpful if we can reach out to them effectively.
 
So, you think you can reach out and talk to communists arming themselves to overthrow the elected government of the USA?

You go on ahead. I'll wait behind these AR500 barriers and cover you.

You really think that's who are behind the recent run on guns? Or is it a bunch of suburban and urban center-left liberals who have come to the sudden conclusion than they need to protect themselves, despite what their favorite party has claimed for years? I bet that the split is at least 50:1 in favor of that latter, and those are all folks that can be talked to and reasoned with if you can somehow enter the conversation with the correct approach.

Or, go ahead and alienate all those new gun owners. I'm sure it'll work out really well for our side.
 
So, you think you can reach out and talk to communists arming themselves to overthrow the elected government of the USA?

You go on ahead. I'll wait behind these AR500 barriers and cover you.
no, what I think he is saying is that not all millenials are communist shills... there has to be a point where we influence the youth as to the value of the 2A... I would imagine that a great many of us who are the Loyal Sons of the Greatest Generation have sons/daughters and grand children who value what their forefathers have done for them... they may as of yet, not be gun owners, or have inherited firearms from their families... those are the ones we need to come along with us... I could care less what a rioter/agitator or marxist wants, they can go take a long jump off a short pier for all I care...
 
I put a post up maybe 3 months ago about this on my very street. Neighbors wife has made so many asinine passive aggressive comments to me about hunting/shooting over the years I just smile and chuckle. Husband asked me about AR's when chinavirus spiked then came back to me a month later and bought one. Now both he AND his wife have CWP's and Glock 19s. True limousine liberals....do as I say not as I do. In the end if they are this motivated maybe they will think a bit more at the voting station when they lean for a Biden cabinet with a guy who says he is actually coming for your guns.
I cannot fathom how you thought it was a good idea to be the person who armed that stupid son of a bitch. You did not help matters.
 
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I cannot fathom how you thought it was a good idea to be the person who armed that stupid son of a bitch. You did not help matters.
I think you are misunderstanding and perhaps poorly worded on my end. I answered a few questions about firearms, licensing, cost etc and they went on their way and bought rifles and handguns through a dealer then went on to get permits through the state. I didn't sell them anything. Further they have come a lonnnng way from belligerent intelligentsia liberals to stating they are scared to death of what the Democrat party has become and as much as they despise Trump may sit the election out or stomach a vote for Trump all due to the lack of response Dems have had to BLM/ANTIFA.
 
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Pretty sure that a case packed full of Titewad or Red Dot would do the trick, but with powder availability being what it is nowadays, you'll probably need to find a substitute based upon a powder burn rate chart. Lots of options will work, I'm sure.
 
Pretty sure that a case packed full of Titewad or Red Dot would do the trick, but with powder availability being what it is nowadays, you'll probably need to find a substitute based upon a powder burn rate chart. Lots of options will work, I'm sure.


The article about MACVSOG's Eldest Son operation that appeared in American Rifleman about 6 years ago really hammered home the fact about just how devastating it was to the VC... It was actually far more demoralizing to the VC than all of the B-52 raids combined and legitimately put true fear into them. Understandable too... Imagine with each trigger pull, you do not know if it will be your last. That will truly fuck with the psychology of anybody on the receiving end of such an operation. Humanity's greatest fear after all, is of the unknown, and you do not know just which rounds in the mags or the battlepacks that had been "edited"...
 
You really think that's who are behind the recent run on guns? Or is it a bunch of suburban and urban center-left liberals who have come to the sudden conclusion than they need to protect themselves, despite what their favorite party has claimed for years? I bet that the split is at least 50:1 in favor of that latter, and those are all folks that can be talked to and reasoned with if you can somehow enter the conversation with the correct approach.

Or, go ahead and alienate all those new gun owners. I'm sure it'll work out really well for our side.
I've gotta story for all of you people. I was at my local club range last Friday, running a friends AR pistol for him after a hammer/trigger spring change. A guy and his son walked up and said hello and we small talked. Noticed the plates on his family truckster, had Illinois plates on it. Mentioned that he was "far from home" and he said, "Yeah, no place to shoot my AR around home, so, got a membership here, because, I keep it at my lake home and it's close by". Said, hmmmmm, He told me, he was a D, because, politics always works it's way into the conversation, he was considering changing parties. I said, that would be a good thing, because, sh^%s about to get real and if it does, all of us can kiss the freedoms we have, right down the shi^%er! He agreed, but, I have my doubts about my conversion speeches. Mac:cool:
ETA: Glad to be back. I was "banned" for a week, due to my very vocal "openness".
I will be much better at keeping my thoughts disconnected from my fingers on the keyboard.(y)
 
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Maybe I missed the reference or source, but I would like to see a valid source that confirms that a bunch of libs are buying up guns and ammo.

Funny to think anti-Constitutional Leftist pukes are buying guns.

I know when I was working part time in the LGS, we screened the Lefties and scumbags. We did what we could to prevent them from buying guns.

I am not dumb enough to think "we" can convert them to our side.
 
Maybe I missed the reference or source, but I would like to see a valid source that confirms that a bunch of libs are buying up guns and ammo.

Funny to think anti-Constitutional Leftist pukes are buying guns.

I know when I was working part time in the LGS, we screened the Lefties and scumbags. We did what we could to prevent them from buying guns.

I am not dumb enough to think "we" can convert them to our side.
Liberal gun club. Saw an article somewhere where their membership grew like three fold since April, can’t find it now. I’m sure they have a bookface, twatter account, and instahate for anyone that wants to look harder than I do.

 
While we're busy looking down our noses at all those new gun owners, note that many of them are potential "swing voters" and recruiting a few of them over to our side by November might provide a substantial benefit in a close election. Just something to think about if you happen to come across a newbie at the shop or range.

THIS is an incredibly important point. The people that Trump loses with in the burbs by polling are the "safety vote." I think it injects a lot of uncertainty into the election and it may not be well reflected at the polls yet. If people in the burbs are buying guns which they wouldn't normally do there's a definite risk on their minds they are hedging against. The questions are who will get the blame in their minds and will the narratives around things like semi auto rifles and high capacity magazines collapse.
 
I cannot fathom how you thought it was a good idea to be the person who armed that stupid son of a bitch. You did not help matters.



Exactly. Helping a liberal [leftist] get a gun and teaching them how to use it makes as much sense as letting Creepy Joe Biden take your teenage daughter on a date.


Heysuess Farging Crisco!!!

I don't normally get in the middle of this kind of shit, but apparently you guys didn't bother to read what Dan wrote.

He didn't take them shopping. He didn't take them shooting. He talked with them on the fricking sidewalk in front of his house and they moved forward from there.
Try reading and comprehending what he said before making a foolish reply.

To make it easier on both of you, I quoted it and it's right here. >>>>


I think you are misunderstanding and perhaps poorly worded on my end. I answered a few questions about firearms, licensing, cost etc and they went on their way and bought rifles and handguns through a dealer then went on to get permits through the state. I didn't sell them anything. Further they have come a lonnnng way from belligerent intelligentsia liberals to stating they are scared to death of what the Democrat party has become and as much as they despise Trump may sit the election out or stomach a vote for Trump all due to the lack of response Dems have had to BLM/ANTIFA.
 
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Heysuess Farging Crisco!!!

I don't normally get in the middle of this kind of shit, but apparently you guys didn't bother to read what Dan wrote.

He didn't take them shopping. He didn't take them shooting. He talked with them on the fricking sidewalk in front of his house and they moved forward from there.
Try reading and comprehending what he said before making a foolish reply.

To make it easier on both of you, I quoted it and it's right here. >>>>
Sums peeples can’t reeds tha ritins so wells
 
I am all for lefties getting religion on guns. Have had a couple lefty friends and even coworkers (in Chicago no less!) reach out to the known gun nut in the group -- me -- about a first purchase since the pandemic got hot. Maybe they'll think differently about gun policy in the next local Dem primary they vote it...

I see it as hedging your bets. About half the time the Democrats are gonna hold national office -- I DO NOT want a good gun laws vs stupid gun laws situation to ride on the Republicans always holding office. That's just a bad strategy.
 
Nope they'll vote straight D because in their feeble minds a democrat government will fix all the problems and guns won't be needed then

That's how they "think"

Yep, that’s exactly what they will do and they will never look at countries like Mexico and many others and effects of gun control in those countries. Cuzzzzz it can’t happen here, right??? The govern will fix it as soon as “our” party wins. Like we don’t have a gang problem nor drug problem and ms13 is a south of the boarder, the boarder we don’t want to build a wall at, problem right?? No problem here. These ”people” are totally incapable of the ability to recognize a cause and affect sequence as well as seeing the reality that no government has ever “fixed“ anything ever; they typically make things worse. Crazy!
 
...the reality that no government has ever “fixed“ anything ever; they typically make things worse...

I get the “typically make things worse” point, but saying no government has ever fixed anything is pretty deep out in left field. I seem to recall the US govt and the Soviet govt — two VERY different govts — fixing the Hitler problem quite effectively.

Governments fix plenty of things, they just need to be held in check to minimize their inefficiencies and their penchant for screwing things up — hence the fate of the Soviet half of that equation above.
 
I get the “typically make things worse” point, but saying no government has ever fixed anything is pretty deep out in left field. I seem to recall the US govt and the Soviet govt — two VERY different govts — fixing the Hitler problem quite effectively.

Yes, you are correct, I took a pretty wide swipe at the uselessness of government with my statement. Certainly, the government in the 40’s would be taking a different approach to antifa and blm than the current local governments are. In this country and a few others, government does provide a framework for law and order and can get things done for the collective good of everyone. However, their effectiveness has slowly eroded over the past decade to the point where they are unwilling to maintain law and order unless it involves restricting your rights for self protection. So for now, that makes them, in my mind, a pretty much useless entity as so much builds off the ability to have a peaceable society. And don’t get me started on how they’ve messed up health care, social security, welfare, and how much money goes to countries who hate us and would just as soon kill us. I want our federal and local governments to be useful, but they are increasingly not.
 
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