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Load Dev: short range alternative to ladder & OCW?

FoxtrotBravo

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I read that ladder tests are only worthwhile when shot at a distance of 300 or more yards. When you have access to 200 yards or less, what is a good method of testing for accurate handloads?

I like the idea of the ladder test and using fewer rounds to arrive at a conclusion. But, I have easy, frequent access to the shorter distances mentioned.

Thanks in advance!
 
Re: Load Dev: short range alternative to ladder & OCW?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dmg308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OCW works fine at 100 yds. That said just because you have a good 100yd load <span style="color: #3333FF">does not mean it will be a good 800yd load</span>. </div></div>

Good point!
 
Re: Load Dev: short range alternative to ladder & OCW?

OCW the as method at 100, then prove OCW with 3 rounds at 300 yd ( or 200 if thats all you have) to select ocw ajust seating dept as written. Of course every thing is subject to how it preforms at range.

I shot ladder test for decades, the OCW works much better IMO ( I never do ladder test any more, if you do the set as written, it works fast with excelent results.
 
Re: Load Dev: short range alternative to ladder & OCW?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dmg308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OCW works fine at 100 yds. That said just because you have a good 100yd load does not mean it will be a good 800yd load. </div></div>

dmg308, thanks for mentioning this. I went back and re-read the OCW method and looks like it works at shorter ranges, too. For some reason, I was thinking it was a long range test only.
 
Re: Load Dev: short range alternative to ladder & OCW?

"I read that ladder tests are only worthwhile when shot at a distance of 300 or more yards. When you have access to 200 yards or less, what is a good method of testing for accurate handloads?"

The ladder test process is valid at any range, long ranges do give a measure of the long range groups while 100 yard ranges give only 100 yard accuracy. The differences are NOT lineier but if you don't have a way to test at longer you use what you have. ?? I commonly do it at 100 yards but would prefer your 200.

The problem with shooting maybe ten or more rounds into a single target at 100 yards is how difficult it becomes to keep an accurate record of which hole came from which round. I avoid that problem by using a single numbered target for each numbered round. When complete, I stack them one at a time on a clean target and mark the hole to make a composite that correctly shows where they would have landed if I had used one target. Works good too. I put all of my test load data on the composite target and keep it in my loose leaf records note book book, including weather, dies used, average run-out, etc, and toss the rest.

I also do a ladder for OAL changes after I find the best powder charge node, that record target also goes in the record book along side the powder test target.