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Rifle Scopes Low Light -Short range

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I'm building a Short range -under 300 yards - Low Light deer rifle. I have a Rem700P being cut down to 16-18 inches. I am a leupold die hard (No Bashing) , but will consider other great low light scopes. I dont think I will need anything more then a 3-9 , and I like the 1-4. Like I said - I will consider any great lowlight scope.

How are the Leupold Euros and the Burris Euros?
 
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On my 16 inch sps tactical I am running a 1.5-5 with m1 turrets and ill spr reticle that Works real well at night when the illumination is on. The only downfall is it eats the batteries pretty fast (compared to a nightforce). I have made hits to 800 in the day with no issues. The reticle is a little fine in the center so non illuminated at night would not work so great.

Currently I am trying out a trijicon 1-4 accupoint with the green triangle. It looks to be real promising. The Leupy has way better turrets, but Trijicon does not need batteries and the triangle is both fast and precise.
 
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I was looking at this model....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sandbogg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On my 16 inch sps tactical I am running a 1.5-5 with m1 turrets and ill spr reticle that Works real well at night when the illumination is on. The only downfall is it eats the batteries pretty fast (compared to a nightforce). I have made hits to 800 in the day with no issues. The reticle is a little fine in the center so non illuminated at night would not work so great.

Currently I am trying out a trijicon 1-4 accupoint with the green triangle. It looks to be real promising. The Leupy has way better turrets, but Trijicon does not need batteries and the triangle is both fast and precise. </div></div>
 
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The Nightforce 2.5-10X32 would be right at home on that chopped down rifle. It's pretty compact at around 12" long and relatively light. If you don't need that much magnification, the 1-4X model is nice as well.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TonyAngel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Nightforce 2.5-10X32 would be right at home on that chopped down rifle. It's pretty compact at around 12" long and relatively light. </div></div>

Yep, I just took one off my AR coyote rifle and listed it in the classifieds.
The illuminated reticle is sweet too, especially on the lowest setting at last light.
 
#12
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I have one Burris Euro with illuminated reticle on its way but if you want the best low light scope (for a reasonable price) then Zeiss Victory Diavari is it.

Zeiss Victory Diavari 3-12x56 T 30mm with Illuminated Reticle 40
 
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I do a LOT of low light hunting and have tried a ton of them
Want great glass, illumination done right and willing to spend some coin?
S&B 1.5-6 Flashdot #9
It's a tad on the heavy side but is fantastic

I have owned a bunch of 1-4s and when it gets dark (hog hunting at night under moonlight, some red or green LED lights, etc..) the little 20-24mm objectives just don't cut it

A 3-9 Accupoint is a great scope, great glass, illumination done right, light, modestly priced.

I am currently testing a 2-7x33 Leupold Firedot and am very impressed with it.
Shockingly clear glass for a 33mm objective scope and on par with the Accupoint 3-9x40, illumination done right.
Really, surprised, pleasantly surprised

Do a search for it here..
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SniperCJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Given the thread title I thot this had something to do with Frank... </div></div>

I was gonna say...

I'm pretty sure it's against site rules to use "Lowlight" and "short" in the same post.
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John
 
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I do, I have the 2-7 and a 3-9x50 coming this week

do a search for Firedot

I referenced in another post that I am learning true LR shooting but hunting in low to no light, I DO know and have lots experience with all sorts of optics.

So far I am very impressed with the Firedot 2-7 it's low light ability far surpassed my expectations, which doesn't happen often.

My two favorite low light scopes have been the 3-9 Accupoint with the mil dot / green dot and a S&B 1.5-6x42 Zenith Flashdot #9. Both of which I own.

I know that Bill Wilson is a very big proponent of the 3-9 Accupoint, he hog hunts 200+ days a year and has tried it all.

I was very impressed with the firedot 2-7 and most likely it will get added to the safe, I am anxious to test the 3-9x50 that is due later this week.

BTW, I owned a 1.5-6 Burris Euro, the ill reticle failed twice on my and on my son's 3-9 FF2 LRS. I don't own either one of them any more.

I would feel 100% confident recommending the 3-9 Accupoint mildot/green dot. It's too early to tell on long term reliability with the Firedots. Both do night time illumination right unlike so many other companies with too bright and or too much lit up.

A nice feature on the Accupoint is that the little dot is always lit up, even during the day for a quick aiming point.

The Firedot advertising a FO may lead you to believe a similiar thing, but it's not. The dot is only lit when you turn it on. Instead of the normal way of illuminating a scope with LEDs that are aimed at the reticle with a reflective coating to enable you to see it, the Firedot uses an ultra thin FO pipe that comes up in the reticle to the center point and gets illuminated from the internals of the scope. It's well executed and there is NO internal flare like so many scopes.

If you are in Central Texas I would be happy to meet at an outdoor range some evening

 
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I would highly recommend a heavy duplex or German #4 reticule for that type of shooting.

I would also recommend against exposed knobs like those on the super sniper. At night/ dusk you tend to bump into more of the little things that normally you would avoid like branches, brush, fenceposts, etc. that could turn those knobs and turn a good clean kill shot a wounded runner shot.

my 2 cents.
 
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I just went with a Z-3 Swarvoski on my AR Deer Rifle gret glass and the German reticle with the heavy outside bars does really well at closing light.....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XFORCE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I to am looking for suggestions on a good scope for hunting under the moon light at night.Keep the ideas coming.My price range is 2,500.</div></div> For that much, take a look at the USO 1.8-10x44 ERGO. Large objective, ability to go to a low magnification power, and digital reticle illumination you can easily adjust to the conditions.
 
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Zeiss Diavari/Victory 3-12x56…your choice of reticle.

I have one with illuminated FFP mildot and it flat out works in the dark.
 
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For Leupold .
Have not used the Leu. Eros model with 56mm Obj. .
I can tell you though . I use a Leu. 3.5-14 X50 LPS . & it does VERY well in low light & with the pvs14 @ night also .
Has good low #'s on the exit pupil .

For another American glass . I like that Trijicon . 2.5-10 X56 . It is real good also .

& for the upper end of your wallet , ALL the Swaro. & Zeiss low power variables with 56mm Objs. are badass also .

But any Scope low exit pupil # for will get your job done in the good light gathering .
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#28
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I don't really understand a lot of the answers here.
Do some of you really have any experience in low light hunting at all?

In my world the best solution is some German 50 or 56mm scopes.
Illuminated reticle is not a must, No 1 or no4 works as well but No1 is in my opinion superior.

I have tried a number of scopes that not was good for low light, despite their illuminated reticles.
IOR, USO, Trijicon all had their illumination far to high to really work well in poor light.

Moonlight dosent count, as a open sights works in good moonlight to.....

Håkan
 
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That is all I do is hunt @ night . Only hunt the daytime occasionally .
You want the best test for low light gathering . I find the Best Test .
( Not NV in the front of the Obj. like pvs22 ) . but to stick quality pvs14 behind the Ocular of a Scope in total darkness .
You will find out in seconds which scope does the best . @ what power level of magnification they Perform best & when they start Crapping-Out Big-Time on the Exit pupil size .
& ' the TRUE' amount ' of light that Actually gets transferred threw the scope . For light amplification by the NV for image to the eye .
& real surprised that some low-$ dollar crap scopes out perform scopes that are 3 times & more in the price .
Not that the High-$$$ variables-X are bad . They perform Outstanding @ what they do . It's just that that small single role of low-light . is Not some scopes, strongest point .

Bigger Obj. size works more than the smaller ones .
low power variables do well . ( 3-9 ) . (3.5-14) . ( 3-12 )
The fixed power 4x & 6x . work great with 40mm & bigger Obj .
my quality-$$ , high power variables like . ( 3.8-22 ) & ( 8-25 ) . Suck donkey balls . the 6-20 x50 is not bad . if you keep it on 8x & lower power .
Technically (i think) the Exit pupil size really starts to crap-out on the higher Magnification variables pretty bad . Scope Cost-$$$ seems to be Not the solution for good low-light . as I have some Cheep shit glass but on the real low X-end of magnification that does great also . The big money scopes have quality construction with great glass & do the role of long range shooting spectacular .
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Used a Trijicon 1-4x24 on a night cull in Africa, could not have asked the scope to do better, it was perfect.

Rath
 
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