I am wondering which you folks would recommend someone purchase first. I don't have enough resources to get both before a match, so my question is: which would be the first you would buy?
LRF or Kestrel for Comp.?
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Re: LRF or Kestrel for Comp.?
its a toss up and more less will depend on what btype of matches you are shooting and the rules.
You will need to know the wind speed for every shot. But you may be able to ask people and get that help without breaking any rules.
As with a ukd drill you might not be able to ask the range and get that info from someone else.
But also every drill isnt UKD.
You also may be able to borrow a LRF from someone at a match.
so you are right back to square one.
its a toss up and more less will depend on what btype of matches you are shooting and the rules.
You will need to know the wind speed for every shot. But you may be able to ask people and get that help without breaking any rules.
As with a ukd drill you might not be able to ask the range and get that info from someone else.
But also every drill isnt UKD.
You also may be able to borrow a LRF from someone at a match.
so you are right back to square one.
Re: LRF or Kestrel for Comp.?
It depends on the match. I would say: Kestrel. Because some matches, like ASC, don't permit range finders. For others, like at Rifles Only, you don't really need them. But if you shoot any of Zak's matches, for his format - where you must identify, range and shoot a series of UKD targets on open land - you will need both.
It depends on the match. I would say: Kestrel. Because some matches, like ASC, don't permit range finders. For others, like at Rifles Only, you don't really need them. But if you shoot any of Zak's matches, for his format - where you must identify, range and shoot a series of UKD targets on open land - you will need both.
Re: LRF or Kestrel for Comp.?
Buy a good rangefinder, and a kestrel. Nothing says you have to spend 350 on a 4500, get a basic model kestrel and you can spend less on it. The rangefinder you can't really get around. It either works or it doesn't. For the money you can't beat a Bushnell Elite 1600 ARC. They can be had new for 450-500 and used for less.
Buy a good rangefinder, and a kestrel. Nothing says you have to spend 350 on a 4500, get a basic model kestrel and you can spend less on it. The rangefinder you can't really get around. It either works or it doesn't. For the money you can't beat a Bushnell Elite 1600 ARC. They can be had new for 450-500 and used for less.
Re: LRF or Kestrel for Comp.?
I would get the kestrel. And a ballistics software program.
It will help with load development and practice at your local known distance range.
Also wind is one of the most important inputs in your calculations. With a kestrel you can confirm your wind speeds. First guess the speed then look at the kestrel, and with time you will be guessing correctly.
Most matches are of known distance.
You don't need the $$$ model as long as it has baro, temp, wind speed, you'll be good to go.
I would get the kestrel. And a ballistics software program.
It will help with load development and practice at your local known distance range.
Also wind is one of the most important inputs in your calculations. With a kestrel you can confirm your wind speeds. First guess the speed then look at the kestrel, and with time you will be guessing correctly.
Most matches are of known distance.
You don't need the $$$ model as long as it has baro, temp, wind speed, you'll be good to go.
Re: LRF or Kestrel for Comp.?
LRF- print Dope cards from online Ballistics programs and keep them in a log book, Use the sheet that matches conditions.
Most of your shooting throughout he year is not under match conditions but while practicing. It is important to know where your bullet is at exact distances. Use this Data on Match Day.
LRF- print Dope cards from online Ballistics programs and keep them in a log book, Use the sheet that matches conditions.
Most of your shooting throughout he year is not under match conditions but while practicing. It is important to know where your bullet is at exact distances. Use this Data on Match Day.
Re: LRF or Kestrel for Comp.?
NOMAD,
Are your Adaptive Quick Charts a way of accomplishing the same thing as a Kestrel, without batteries?
NOMAD,
Are your Adaptive Quick Charts a way of accomplishing the same thing as a Kestrel, without batteries?
Re: LRF or Kestrel for Comp.?
LRF. You can learn to read wind through watching mirage, foliage and other objects in your surroundings. Read the wind book for rifle shooters, and practice.
LRF. You can learn to read wind through watching mirage, foliage and other objects in your surroundings. Read the wind book for rifle shooters, and practice.
Re: LRF or Kestrel for Comp.?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jon Lester</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LRF- print Dope cards from online Ballistics programs and keep them in a log book, Use the sheet that matches conditions.
Most of your shooting throughout he year is not under match conditions but while practicing. It is important to know where your bullet is at exact distances. Use this Data on Match Day. </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jon Lester</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LRF- print Dope cards from online Ballistics programs and keep them in a log book, Use the sheet that matches conditions.
Most of your shooting throughout he year is not under match conditions but while practicing. It is important to know where your bullet is at exact distances. Use this Data on Match Day. </div></div>
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